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Big Brother 2004

 
  

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Jack Vincennes
21:31 / 07.07.04
'Dude, that totally fucks up our plan'.

If you will it, Dude—it is no dream.

Sorry.

Olula, I too have been yelling 'You try so hard, don't you? You try! So! Hard!' at Becki...
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
22:02 / 07.07.04
I think I love Stuart, in the way I would love say... a child. He is such a little boy, it's quite endearing.

See: hiding behind his hat in the diary room, his deep love of Harry Potter, trying to dress up as often as possible and clinging to any costume oppurtunity, just how pleased he is with the whole school "task". I'm surprised I don't hate him for many of these things, but obviously the little boychild exudes some kind of naive innocence that makes everything ok.

I really do hope his favourite band is Busted, as then the picture is complete.
 
 
Olulabelle
22:06 / 07.07.04
Your vagina-related support of Becki was fairly short-lived, then?

I can see this looks like I am willy nilly changing my tune, but my short lived support of Becki regarding Dan's comment has become far outweighed by ALL THE REST OF THE THINGS SHE HAS DONE.

I have decided that even though we share the same sexual parts, we share NOTHING ELSE in common and much as I wish to support her in her 'Women are not fishlike' campaign I suspect she may actually be secretly one of the few existing smelly knickers girls.

I warmed to her slightly when she was championing the cause for female bits, but then I realised she was only doing that because she clearly thinks; a/ she is destined for stardom, b/that she will achieve this status by talking about sex and her female bits a lot, and c/that if this ploy doesn't work on the men, at least the girls who watch will think she's a great feminist role model 'man' and so therefore she should stay in for that.

Someone: What are you doing your presentation on?
Becki: Masturbation and safe sex. My specialised subject. *Fiddles with knickers.* (She did. She did do this.)
Ahmed: (Has his eyes wide open and is just staring at her.)

Olulabelle and Vincennes: (Stab the TV.)
 
 
Ganesh
23:10 / 07.07.04
Warning: please note this story contains adult content. (Dontcha just love the official Big Brother site?)

More "saucy" quasi-sexual content - but all depressingly (to me, anyway) heteronormative, with even the (now) token poof playing subject to a female object (tits as jam-spoons - clarrrsy). And neither he nor the legion of maybisexuals dissenting or attempting to subvert the game. Compare and contrast with the chocolate-spread-on-buttocks game of yesterweek: has Spambo even bared his sphincter lately, let alone allowed a woofter anywhere near it?

Heteroville. Yay, etc.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
00:40 / 08.07.04
That's a horrible still of Michelle in all of natures glory, could they not have found a better picture?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:37 / 08.07.04
Smut .... tick
Spanking .... tick
Hetero overload .... tick





Becki giving a whole new inflection to 'pulling' by attempting to literally pull Jason out of bed.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
12:39 / 08.07.04
OMFG - I think BB has finally managed to create TV that I want to watch.

Harcore mannequin slaughter action.

Woo Hoo.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:42 / 08.07.04
from the 'adults only' story:

Jason sat astride her and sucked the jam from the proffered boob.

"Saucy Nadia," he growled on completion of the dare.



*vomits*
 
 
Ganesh
12:49 / 08.07.04
Run, Dan, run. See Dan run.
 
 
■
20:54 / 08.07.04
My god. Not often you see jam being licked from breasts on Channel 4. Let alone twice. "Like trying to find a cherry in a trifle," I think Dan said. He knows. Does Stuart?
I wish I'd stayed and talked to George.
 
 
Ganesh
20:59 / 08.07.04
Hmm. On this evening's show, we see the gruesome Graduation Party footage in full. Compared to the last game of Truth & Dare, this one seemed designed primarily for the straight males: female nudity, but Stuart pleads "dignity" to avoid the same dare; girl-on-girl nipple-licking (all cheered on by the Jungle Twats, particularly Victor) but not a hint of male-male contact, even with Dan the Token Poof.

Hetsville Titty Limits.

One suspects that Nadia's unlikely ever to disclose her past now; when Jason finds out she started life male, he's likely to be a complete tosspot about that nipple thing.

Victor was unpleasantly voyeuristic yet again, with his Uncle Disgusting interest in whether Michelle had "felt" Stu's cock. He was practically rubbing his thighs a la Vic Reeves. Arsecake.
 
 
Triplets
23:04 / 08.07.04
I don't like Victor because he's black.

Who's with me?
 
 
Jub
05:21 / 09.07.04
Shell is - I reckon.

Might just be being over sensitive, but I think the girl fears him. She seems to shy away from him in conversation and when they do speak she's incredibly patronising. .... although thinking about it,m that might be becasue he's a wally. Still one of the funniest one's in there though.
 
 
Jub
05:28 / 09.07.04
Oh - and Nick Griffin.
 
 
Ganesh
07:47 / 09.07.04
Well, a Jamaican work colleague commented that Victor talks like a '70s blaxploitation film - so at least some black people might be with you on the grounds that he's stereotypically uber-black macho.
 
 
Jub
08:23 / 09.07.04
they set fire to Stuart's cowboy hat. Comic Genius.
 
 
Ganesh
08:26 / 09.07.04
I bet he'd have been less upset if they'd set fire to Michelle.
 
 
Ganesh
08:47 / 09.07.04
Bleurgh. Ebony and fucking ivory...

"We were a team as soon as I gave Vic his glass of champagne on the first day," Jay said fondly.

Vic agreed and added: "Once he put his shorts on, yeah," keen to stress that though the pair are close, they're not THAT close.


Yeah, 'cause that'd be gay... Thing is, it took Jason almost two weeks to put his shorts on, literally and metaphorically. Until that point, he was happily bonding with Dan, exposing soul and Spamcheeks. The whole 'Victor and I were a team from Day One' stuff is revisionist shitebaggery, and it's no wonder Dan's pissed off with having been airbrushed out of the picture.

Jason's not in love with Victor; he's in love with the idea of confident masculinity, because it's something he's never himself attained, despite pumping his Sparmour to ridiculous proportions and (supposedly) bedding several hundred women. I think he was probably drawn to Dan, initially, for the same reason, since Dan's fairly secure in himself. Sad thing is, Jason's apparently unable to read Victor's rude boy posturing for the inauthentic Panto Male bullshit it is, and has hitched his bitch-wagon to a dud nag.

I suspect it's the way he'll go in life. He'll abandon his plan to become a trolley dolly (I note there's been almost no discussion of that), luxuriate in the meedja spotlight for a few weeks, consider moving in with Victor... and then, when that relationship turns sour (as it inevitably will, because Victor actually is attracted to women rather than simply the idea of being a heterosexual man), becoming embittered. He'll cast around for substitute archetypes of masculinity, possibly join a gang (a la Morrissey) and possibly go the whole Irvine Welsh 'sexual ambiguity transformed to violence' route. Of course, the fact that his face is (briefly) famous will make those nocturnal 'walking the dog' episodes rather tricky: perhaps he'll eschew actual sex and simply beat up the more disrespectful Hampstead Heath-goers instead...

*sigh*

Such a silly boy...
 
 
Jub
08:50 / 09.07.04
I'd love it if someone pointed Jason in this thread's direction when he got out. He'd learn so much about himself.
 
 
Ganesh
09:25 / 09.07.04
Becki's self-communication seems to be reaching ever-greater heights: she's apparently writing herself messages now, too. I reckon this is partly self-reassurance (some people do talk to themselves this way) and partly performance. I think Becki has a hint of the actress, and much of what she does is done with one eye on the nearest camera. I don't necessarily mean this in a pejorative 'playing to the gallery' way, but I do think she's acutely conscious of how things might play to the viewers - and she presumably believes that exposing some of her inner thoughts via cryptic Gollumesque conversations with herself will make for a more fascinating persona. Which it doesn't really.

Which is sad, because I don't think her co-nominee Ahmed's doing himself any favours either, with his enraged mannequin-smashing. Prospective wives, form an orderly queue - and don't even think 'blindfold'...

In a mischievous sort of Devil's advocatey way, I'm returning to my original hypothesis of High IQ Stu as proto-Barbeloid - of the lurks-in-Conversation variety. He has a sense of himself as (slightly tragically) isolated as a result of his overdeveloped intelligence (which isn't quite as overdeveloped as he thinks it is), he's fond of expressing himself via a range of comedy personas and, crucially, his intellect outstrips his emotional intelligence by a couple of light years. And he can't spell.

There's also his extreme social/sexual passivity: when she was a little girl, Michelle had a rag doll, the only doll she ever owned; and Stu's gonna be as passive as that rag doll... One senses that, were one to plunk a broadband terminal in front of him, there'd be massive outpourings of passion and angst - and, when Michelle finally gave up and buggered off to live in the Yucatan or with Victor, he'd decide he was in love with her all along.

He wears a cowboy hat well, though. I'll give him that.
 
 
Ganesh
09:50 / 09.07.04
This fashionalysis is scaaarily on the money. A few joyous snippets:

[Stu] is Big Brother's answer to David Beckham as he loves sarongs, nail varnish and girly bunches. He relishes cross dressing, much to the horror of Michelle.

[Nadia] earns top fashionista marks for admitting: "I miss my handbag", rather than pining for family or friends.

[Becki] dresses like Avril Lavigne's mother

Shell is the Julie Andrews of the House. She can't do tarty, even when she's streaking round the garden.


Class.
 
 
Ganesh
11:19 / 09.07.04
Get thee behind me, shirtlifter...
 
 
electricinca
11:41 / 09.07.04
Oh, my God! They've killed Stu's hat! You Bastards!

Stu was devastated by the loss of his hat when it was taken away from him and now they have deepened the wound by publicly burning it.

I think it really is psychologically damaging as Stu seems to have regressed into a child-like being and now the authority figure of Big Brother whom Stu may see in a parental role has destroyed his favourite posession.

Poor little Stu, I shall drink a Guinness to honour the death of his hat.
 
 
electricinca
11:45 / 09.07.04
I'd love it if someone pointed Jason in this thread's direction when he got out. He'd learn so much about himself.

I agree he would but I think he would probably reject it all in his attempt to bolster his heteronormality.
 
 
Nobody's girl
13:23 / 09.07.04
Jason is confronted by the house about his sexuality.

Apparently there's "chemistry" between Jay and Dan. ICK! I feel sorry for Dan.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
15:05 / 09.07.04
I love Stuart because he likes dressing up and I do too. I was so mad at Michelle when she didn't want him to wear a skirt, why shouldn't he wear a skirt or a cowboy outfit or a jungle man costume? Stupid boring girl.
 
 
Ganesh
19:31 / 09.07.04
Well, at least Jason didn't twist the knife (in Dan's back) further by strenuously asserting his 100% heterosexuality. To me, it's just rather sad: I really think Spamlet, when he entered the house, was at something of a crossroads in his life. I think everyone applies for Big Brother for a reason, particularly the older housemates (and, in Big Brother terms, thirty is old), and Jason's circumstances (no closeness to adoptive parents or previous hundred-whatever shags, plan to train in a highly gay-associated career, claim of bisexuality) suggested he had reached a particular point of self-exploration. I honestly believe he was considering avenues other than straightforward heterosexuality, and claiming to be bisexual was more than a cynical attempt to get into the Big Brother house; I think he was trying the label for size, and the initial conditions (three queers, loads of purported bisexuals) encouraged him in this.

I think he was at a crossroads and, in allying himself with Victor (pseudo-Alpha Male) he's gone down the wrong path. I don't think life would be utterly rosy for Jason if he'd gone down the primrose path of homo-dalliance either (as exemplified by Dan), but I do think identifying as gay would probably fulfil a lot of Jason's psychological needs. As a primary narcissist, he'd have much more access to instant and complete admiration of his body. Men would also likely demand less in terms of emotional commitment. I also think he has an interest in exploring being a sexual object (which I reckon he conflates with 'female' and 'passive') and wants, on one level, to be fucked (anally); this'd be much more of a possibility if he made himself accessible to gay men. I can actually see him as a sort of 'trophy wife' to an elderly gay man: no responsibilities other than pumping muscles, topping up one's tan and wearing scanty-but-lovely undies. He'd absolutely thrive.

As I've been typing this, Becki's been evicted. I hope they don't boo her, but I think they will. She's a late-entry female who's expressed sexuality (ie. she's an evil slag) so I don't hold out much hope for her...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:10 / 09.07.04
All the booing for Becki. It's such shit, all those stupid little people hissing. Always happens with women who display any upfront female sexuality without satisfying the Sun readers with a bit of televisded nookie. God, I hate the British public sometimes...
 
 
cantankor
20:24 / 09.07.04
Couldn't agree more, Xoc. Bloody hell, she wasn't that bad. Just a bit of a "Like me!! Like me!!! Like me!!!!"
 
 
h1ppychick
21:03 / 09.07.04
The booing was bad enough, but the continual heckling was absolutely appalling, with the entire eviction show ending up as a complete shambles as a result.

I thought Becki handled it all with grace and charm, unlike the BB producers.
 
 
Ganesh
21:16 / 09.07.04
Fuck. Poor old Becki. Lots of heckling all the way through. Having said which, she hardly exhibited a fabulous insight into the dynamics of the house (failing to boo Jason, etc.).

Easy come, easy go. And she didn't make me come.
 
 
Warewullf
22:10 / 09.07.04
Why the hell did they move the interviews to outside? I want to hear Davina, not the mob. Irritating.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:26 / 09.07.04
I think they give the evictee the option of doing the interview inside the studio or out with the crowd. I didn't watch it tonight, but last week's was a bit of a mess, with Marco hearing the audience reactions to the questions he was being asked and seemingly modifying his answers to suit. Pointless.
 
 
electricinca
10:03 / 10.07.04
I think the outdoors interview with Marco worked quite well, he responded to the crowd and it was a chance for him to perform. We were hardly gonna get a deep insightful interview from Davina in any case.

But last night's was a fucking shambles and the BB producers should have known that Becki would get booed and heckled.
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
15:23 / 10.07.04
Thursdays? Silent protest was intresting. Dan showed more intellegenge again-to the point of me wondering what he is doing in the BB house in the first place.

Kind of intrezting that BB reacted to the silent protest with, the Cold Treatement and playing alarms ever 5 mins, then torching Stu's Hat (Awwwwwwww). Then giving Michell a final warning for her tit for tat , camera burning attempt.

Its a game show, fo it to work effectively the game must have rules. BB has shown seroious inconsitency so far with the rules.
 
  

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