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Big Brother 2004

 
  

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ONLY NICE THINGS
14:02 / 02.07.04
The sedikki site is terrifying... but those meldoies sure are intoxicating. Some of the most intoxicating meldoies I've ever heard...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:43 / 02.07.04
he hasn't screwed up in my eyes, and I'm a member of the public. I think he's very VERY funny

Well it's good to know that you think staring intently at someone and yelling in their face is funny. I personally hate it, I find it intimidating and nasty when people focus their anger so directly.

I...but..what? Your original post found it "interesting" that supposedly bisexual people were "reverting to the cultural default" and being somehow dishonest in this

They are reverting to the cultural default in their behaviour, that doesn't mean they're straight, it means they're latching on to the most comfortable thing. I told you to go and read Headshop because there's a thread in the forum discussing bisexuality atm and I think you need to read it, if only to realise the proportion of bisexuals that inhabit this board but actually to understand why it's weird that all of those people would use the same tool (the same lie) to get on to this show. The problem is that it isn't bollocks- whether we're talking culturally or individually. To use that lie I'd guess that all of them have at least questioned their sexuality, had some sexual experience with a member of their sex or thought intensely about the way that bisexuality is perceived in the media. It seems to me that you need to think about that and how important it is because you seem to regard this mass 'lie' as meaningless and it simply can't be.

It's the weight of numbers that's annoying me, the fact that all the bisexual-identifying people are apparently "lying about their sexuality". If I were bisexual myself, I daresay it'd piss me off even more.

DAMN RIGHT.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:50 / 02.07.04
My god, the band info on Dan's site is ridiculous- With more costume changes than Superman, Wonder Woman and Spiderman put together it's this kind of theater that adds to the spectacular sound of a band clearly comfortable with their unique and catchy trashy disco. And precisely how they're going to be playing at the Adelphi Club in Hull tonight is questionable.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:57 / 02.07.04
Holograms.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
15:35 / 02.07.04
Oh my God.

Dan appears to be a natural ginger (of the darker/auburn variety).

I think I'm in love.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
16:12 / 02.07.04
Oh my God.

Just oh my God.

I think the thing that sums up all the hilarity for me precisely, is the "e" in "Icehouse" on Dan's "website". Ahahaha. I just love how when people think doing that gives them both a sense of design, respectability and class, while simultaneously appearing professional and not at all AMATEUR AND STUPID. See also: rilly cool lounge/wine bars and bands like stellastarr*. Edgy.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:30 / 02.07.04
Back in the Diary Room, the Somalian told Big Brother that he hadn't broken a rule because there was a difference between influencing people's votes and telling people how to vote

We can assume that Ahmed's law degree wasn't anything to do with contract law, given this and the other night...

Ahmed: Can I just point out, whoever wins here will get the full £100,000. It says so in the contract.
Dan: No, it says "may win up to £100,000."
Ahmed: Yes, but that doesn't matter. I've got a law degree.
Dan: It also says "Big Brother retains the right to change the rules at any time."
Ahmed: Yes, but they can't do it like that.

A promising career awaits. Just not in law.
 
 
ocko
20:32 / 02.07.04
Showing Marco's highlights on tonight's eviction show, I believe we've just seen the first recorded shootage of the dance of disrespect...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:08 / 02.07.04
Interesting reactions from the audience again. Both Marco and Michelle get a mixture of boos and cheers when they appear on screen during the first show, yet Nadia's face is greeted with complete silence. I've absolutely no idea what to make of that.

Then *huge* boos for both Jason and Ahmed during Marco's interview. Those are going to be two ugly evictions. Expect local supermarkets to make a killing on rotten fruit immediately beforehand.

A vague promise that "action will be taken" against Victor and Jason next week, as the result of their flaunting of the rules. Or possibly as the result of fan outcry. I know that's a suggestion that's going to get Bobossboy and Runce wound up, so apologies in advance, but a lot of what's happened since Fight Night has felt like it's been decided fairly late in the day and influenced by comments coming from outside of Channel 4 and Endemol.

But anyway, wonder what the action will be? It'd be fun to watch their reaction to both having their right to nominate revoked for a week, as happened with Jade a couple of years back. Goodbye gameplan.
 
 
■
00:00 / 03.07.04
I apologise for skimming the past week's threads (wedding and work and all, y'know) but a friend pointed out that Vic and Spambo reminded him of another famous couple:
 
 
Spaniel
08:43 / 03.07.04
Doesn't wind me up at all. I think there's summut in it.
 
 
Spaniel
08:44 / 03.07.04
Perhaps they'll both be up for eviction, although that would be a little unfair on Victor.
 
 
Ganesh
08:53 / 03.07.04
I think Lovely Dermot compared Emma and Michelle to the Grumpy Old Muppets when they were in the bedsit...
 
 
■
09:40 / 03.07.04
Thanks. Now I have an image of naked Statler and Waldorf covered in icing and glitter.
 
 
Ganesh
15:38 / 03.07.04
That's a strangely transcendent image.
 
 
Bear
18:46 / 03.07.04
Anyone want to give me some quick comments on what I've missed in the last 2 weeks?
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
09:30 / 04.07.04
Been away for a couple of days and the thread swells by 3 pages!

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02:51 / 02.07.04
Wait, how many warning does Jason have now? Ummmm....

I was just wondering that. Isn't this his third one? Or is Big Brother putting the 'talking about nominations' warnings in a separate category from general warnings?"


Like I say
Evil? No
Inconsitent? Yes.


Damm I missed Marco's eviction. It sounded like one of the better ones.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:05 / 04.07.04
I really hope that they go with my dream scenario for Jason and Victor's punishment: take away their right to nominate for a week. But don't announce it: have all the housemates sitting on the sofa and then call everyone to the diary room but those two.

Did anyone else see the live footage of Dan, Shell, Michelle and Victor pissing themselves laughing at the (completely hilarious) chronicles of Team Handsome? I maintain that Victor can be likeable if you get him away from Jason...
 
 
Ganesh
12:34 / 04.07.04
I maintain that Victor can be likeable if you get him away from Jason...

And vice versa. Together, however, they feed into one another's self-delusions in an incredibly irritating way. Their interactions with Ahmed are also rather poisonous, seeming, sometimes, to veer close to intimidation (hence Ahmed's screamy toys-from-pram tantrum after being tarred with their 'influencing nominations' brush; he obviously feels stressed - or at least conflicted - by their 'don't let your guard down' crap).
 
 
electricinca
17:31 / 04.07.04
What is going on with Ahmed?

At first I thought his demand to get nominated next week was a clever ploy to test his popularity both in the house and with the public outside. By doing this he could gauge his chances of winning the show, if he has no chance then he may as well leave. I'm not explaining myself well and it doesn't bloody matter anyway because I have changed my opinion.

I think he really wants to leave now but he doesn't want to leave via the backdoor. I believe he craves some public attention and acknowledgement of his existence, for his moment in the spotlight. Is it some form of status anxiety? As a non-white asylum seeker (is that a true label, hasn't he already been granted asylum) he has low status in British society and may gain some as a Big Brother housemate.
 
 
■
22:28 / 04.07.04
I have a small request, which is slightly OT. Not having been in Lunnun for a while, I's just like to check that the BB studio is where I think it should be? Does this area in Bromley-by-Bow fit?

If so, I have a funny little story for you all. Involving paranoia and cameras and drugs. Oh, yes.
 
 
■
22:42 / 04.07.04
OK, a quick check shows they moved to Elstree recently, but I think my story still works. Will post when fully sober.
Goodnight.
 
 
Triplets
08:39 / 05.07.04
I think it's just because Ahmed's a boring cunt and is seeking attention any way he can get it - well, fuck it's Big Brother, they all are. But he's not getting the spotlight because of his exciting personality that's for sure. Hence the hissy fits. I've seen him break into tears about four times now.

I wish he'd just go.
 
 
Ganesh
09:04 / 05.07.04
Not sure I'd agree. As with the 'gameplan' and 'agenda' theorising, I think the 'just seeking attention' attribution (error) is somewhat overstated, both in and outside the house, by way of explaining behaviour.
 
 
Ganesh
09:34 / 05.07.04
Gah. Meant to write more there.

In the case of Ahmed, I think the situation is complicated by the fact that his background is culturally distinct from everyone else's ie. he hasn't been lucky enough to grow up in a rich, Western country. The "asylum seeker" elements are a little fuzzy, and (other than some rather glossed-over stuff to Jason a few weeks back) we don't have much idea what he's actually experienced in Somalia. There's also his religious faith, although I suspect there's a slight danger of exaggerating that ('they're not like us', etc., etc.)

When he got all stroppy about having to wear a blindfold as part of the task, I thought, 'oh no, torture experience, how insensitive of Endemol', but from later comments, it sounded as if it was all about some fucking party game when he was ten. Certainly, he seemed happy enough to poke the Spamster with a cattle-prod (and the exchange of roles was a rare example of Jason being gracious and accommodating).

I'm not really sure what to make of his queeny outbursts, and 'I will have my night, Davina' stuff. It seems to me that, having sold himself as an outspoken 'straight-talker', he was initially cowed by the number of other socially confident individuals claiming the same dubious virtues (and I think it is dubious that, in the Big Brother setting, boorishness is frequently eulogised as a strength, while considerate individuals are seen as weak or necessarily two-faced). He certainly appears to process stress/anger by brooding for days, then running screamily amok; I don't thi-i-ink it's purely attention-seeking but, to Western sensibilities, it certainly stands out.

My main beef with Ahmed is that he seems incapable of seeing how he's being played as a stooge by the the house's other two psychologically inadequate males. Why did he promise never to nominate either of them? Twat.
 
 
Ganesh
09:58 / 05.07.04
The 'status anxiety' Theory of Ahmed is further bolstered by his refusal to play roles which might be perceived as inferior or subservient (insists on farmer rather than cow). Regarding this week's school-related task:

Ahmed took to pacing the garden insisting that he wanted to be the headmaster of the school. Keen to ensure that nobody else bagsied the role without his knowledge, the eldest housemate steadfastly let it be known that should one of them need to head up the class, he would be it. "I wanna be head teacher," was one of the first things he said to Victor on waking.

As I say, difficult to know what's cultural, what's situational and what's Ahmed simply being an arsebiscuit.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
10:56 / 05.07.04
"There's no beef, Big Brother... I can't just find beef! There's just no beef!"

That's a little late, but all talks of beef just make think of that little exchange.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:51 / 05.07.04
Jolly good.

Mind you, I must have missed the 67 warnings that were issued. And I'm not entirely certain how "They will be given the option of telling their fellow housemates" is going to work. Unless Big Brother's going to shout "Look! A three-headed monkey!" to try and distract the others at nomination time, I presume that Jason and Victor will be called in as normal in order to pretend that nothing's happening. Which strikes me as a bit of a cop-out, really.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
16:07 / 05.07.04
Ah ha haaa! Winner! I am so pleased that people on this thread turned out to be right, because this just works so well in every aspect, really.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
16:21 / 05.07.04
I also hope that when Jason and Victor are called to the diary room to not nominate they will be played a tape, or possibly the live sound, of Big Brother laughing at them and saying Jungle Cats in a derisive manner.
 
 
Ganesh
16:26 / 05.07.04
Result. And Spamalot instantly begins protesting his innocence loudly to the other housemates. Can't wait for Vic to get the same chat...

How do we all reckon the nomination voting's gonna go, then?
 
 
Jub
16:33 / 05.07.04
Becki and Ahmed will be up for eviction, and maybe Jason too.
 
 
Ganesh
16:45 / 05.07.04
Possibly - if people actually take Ahmed at his word and nominate him. Becki, though: who's gonna be nominating her? Michelle, maybe?
 
 
Ganesh
17:26 / 05.07.04
Aaand Twat the Second. But Victor just can't resist trying to control (or at least divine) Shell's voting plans...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
22:55 / 05.07.04
This BB news article is ridiculous. Someone just couldn't resist it...
 
  

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