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Spatula Clarke
13:58 / 10.11.04
Thee are three things I'm looking forwards to (not counting Tribes: Vengeance, which I need a new PC for, and the DS, which should be a given for anyone remotely interested in games):

Okami
Killer 7 (click 'Enter', not 'English')
Viewtiful Joe 2

Okami, in particular, looks fucking amazing. Just watch the movie - there's no way I can do it justice.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
17:23 / 10.11.04
Just bought Tribes: Vengeance from CD-WOW for £9 delivered, with a free £8.99 voucher I got for signing up to their DVD rental service.

Sweet.
 
 
iamus
17:24 / 10.11.04
Okami looks amazing. All I had seen up until this point had been stills, but that movie kinda blew me away. The best way I can think of describing it is like a cross between Viewtiful Joe, Wind Waker and Princes Mononoke only more so, but that doesn't account for potential gameplay.

As for DS, there's a few games that have me excited but Yoshi's Touch And Go in particular. It sounds a little mini-gamey at the moment but I'm sure it'll flesh out and it seems to me like one of the first games to really realise the DS unique potential.

Baby Mario falls from the sky in the top screen and you watch coins and enemies work their way up to him from the bottom screen. You have to draw in tracks of clouds to guide Mario to the coins and also circle enemies to close them off from him. When he reaches the ground it turns into a side scrolling platformer. As I said, doesn't sound to much at this point, but the idea of exploiting new ways to interact with games in this fashion has me a bit wet.

I really can't wait for the DS. I may have to take advantage of its region free nature and get an import machine if I can afford to.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:31 / 10.11.04
You can't afford not to, if the £129 UK price rumours turn out to be true. About &75-£80 for an import one. It's like Nintendo Europe are slitting their own throats and farting in our faces at the sime time. I'm certainly intending to import when I have the cash.

And then there's the bonus of Japanese and American games at £17, rather than UK ones at £30. Nice plastic boxes in JPN, too - I'm sick to death of Nintendo's cardboard packaging.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:02 / 10.11.04
Ooooo! Maybe I should be making a Christmas list! Randy, you have to provide me with all relevant DS info and ordering. I remember hearing about there being shortages, though? Do you think I could still get one? Hmmm.

I can't believe those UK price rumours... but then when you think about Nintendo's track record here. It seems kinda bad even for them, though.
 
 
iamus
19:39 / 13.11.04
A lovely DS movie

For all those interested.
 
 
Triplets
21:26 / 13.11.04
Okami makes me yearn for a Littlest Hobo game so bad.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:21 / 26.11.04
1. Can I be bothered with Metroid Prime 2? It seems so bog standard sequel, the reviews don't fill me with enthusiasm (harder, lots of bosses, harder bosses. Great bosses says the review - annoying thinks me) and also: ehhhh. But it seems like a perfect winter game.

2. Paper Mario 2. Like with Pikmin 2 I know I should want to play it, but I just don't want to. (Right now, at least).

3. Zelda: the Minish Cap. Oh, I want it so bad. I was suddenly sold on reading that it has more than 20 hours solid gameplay, and lots of it is overworld stuff. The last time I played through Zelda III on the SNES I got fed up with the rigid dungeon structure. I like my Zelda games to be more about exploring forests. And lakes. Unfortunately I don't have a gameboy of any type and it would seem foolish to get an SP now with the DS backwards compatibility in mind. How cheap would a second hand SP be?* I kind of like how little and compact they are in a way that is suddenly an all too consuming desire.

*About £50-ish, on ebay, it seems.

4. Is it even possible to import a DS right now? All the import sites I have checked are sold out. Amazon.com was sold out, and they wouldn't even ship outside the country. Which is quite good news for Nintendo, at least.

5. Do I even have time to play games?
 
 
iamus
22:21 / 26.11.04
Metroid Prime 2

Picked it up today and I've played a little so far. Your expectations could be correct. I'm enjoying it (more Prime is nothing but a good thing in my book), but it does seem a bit too much like the first. I'm giving it time because it's throwing up some promising stuff that it could develop on. It does look lovely, however. Like the most beautiful parts of the first game all the way through. I'll see what I think in a week or so.

Minish Cap

Give me a good Zelda title and I'll be happy as a clam. This is a good Zelda title.
I love the 3D Zeldas, but I always thought they lost something in the translation: All the nooks and crannies and rabbit-warren caves and stuff. In my opinion it's the best 2D Zelda since Link to the Past. It's made by Capcom, who did Oracle of Seasons/Ages and I wasn't too taken with those, but this rights the balance.

I agree with you about the overworld stuff being what it's all about and there is plenty to do there (Did feel sold a little short on dungeons, though nothing like the sting of Wind Waker). A lot of the old weapons are missing but it's for the better. I think it makes the game a whole lot fresher. Also, hardly any secrets or sub-quests are signposted (something that bothers me in a lot of games nowadays) so you have to spend your time thinking and experimenting and discovering in true Zelda fashion.

I smiled a lot while playing it.
It might not be quite up there with LttP but it comes close.
Lovely. Lovely. Lovely.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:25 / 26.11.04
You'll still probably be able to pre-order a JPN DS (a US one? Not a hope in hell) before Christmas from somewhere like Play Asia or Lik Sang. Maybe. Failing that there's eBay, but you'll be paying well over the odds and have the added hassle of possible arseholery from the seller.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
03:33 / 27.11.04
All this talk of Zelda makes me wish I could play Link's Awakening for the first time again. Fucking boss. I've played a little of the ROM of Minish Cap, then had to stop because it's on my "to buy" list and I don't want to ruin it. It's very different to the "classic" Zeldas in lots of ways, possibly because Capcom did the grunt work on it.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
03:38 / 27.11.04
Nintendo DS at play Asia

Apparently it uses the same chargers as the GBA, so you're sorted with regards to getting a power supply for it. Might be an idea to double check that, mind.
 
 
Grey Area
15:23 / 27.11.04
I got my copy of HL2. Managed to install it after two hours of arsing about with my latop, crossover cables and all so I could get an internet connection to my desktop machine (15mb of additional material for Steam...bloody effing hellfire).

But it was soooo worth it. I've been walking around areas cleared of enemies for hours, just throwing stuff around and marvelling at the detail. And the gameplay is, excuse the cliche, totally awesome. Never thought I'd get into an FPS like I've done with HL2...
 
 
doglikesparky
18:52 / 27.11.04
Just finished HL2 and had a great time throughout. Every time I got to a new area I was muttering to myself about how gorgeous the game looks and how much fun it is to play as well.
Little tiny bit of a let down ending and the whole thing is over way too quickly but in terms of just immersing yourself into the world, the thing is unrivalled. It also doesn't need a super whizzy pc to run it at reasonable settings either (although having one, I'm sure, does help).

But Steam(ing pile of shite) sucks. Big Time. The need for an internet connection to play a single player game is just plain wrong. Shame on you Valve.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:33 / 27.11.04
I ma a bit conflicted about HL2, regarding whether to buy it; my laptop, which has a nice, fairly whizzy Athlon XP 2600 processor, 512MB RAM and a Radeon 9000 (only 64MB, alas) has a dodgy thing with the grpahics card where the display goes annoyingly fuzzy sometimes. My desktop has no such trouble, and I have been able to run Doom 3 on it (demo), but it does only have a 1.8Mhz Celeron, although adding a 128MB FX5200 and another 256MB has perked it up no end... but I have no idea whether it will run HL2 (the min. specs *say* it will, but...)...
 
 
The Strobe
09:09 / 28.11.04
Haus: many people have commented that HL2, especially at moderate-resolutions, runs pretty well on the lower-end of its hardware.

If you can run Doom 3 you should definitely be able to run HL2 without trouble, and it does sound like either of those systems would probably handle it pretty well.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:20 / 28.11.04
R0XXOR!

I hie me to Amazon. Thank god for my emotionally distant family and their obsession with gift tokens.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
14:03 / 28.11.04
Haus: did you ever get round to installing steam? chances are HL2 is already on your computer and waiting to be unlocked.
 
 
iamus
17:49 / 28.11.04
Dudley, I did have reservations about the start of the game. It seemed a little like something else dressed up as Zelda. Though round about the time that I got the cap it all seemed to fall into place.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:17 / 28.11.04
GRRRRR. I made SURE I had the recommended specs (or above) for Half-Life 2.

I waited. Oh, fuck, I waited.

Then the day before it was FINALLY released...

my DVD drive died.

Sometimes I just hate EVERYTHING.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
11:05 / 29.11.04
Bought HL2 over Steam (Silver Package). Took 15 mins to decrypt the files - launched flawlessly - plays like a prima donna motherfucker on meth.

What more can I say than "fookin' great game, like"?

It's slightly ironic that the people who bought yer actual physical copy are the people who seem to have had the most trouble getting the game running...

Valve have apparently solved the authentication problems for CD/DVD owners, so all that remains to be seen is how people respond to the actual game.

Myself: well, I had heard a load of hype beforehand, but was sorta expecting the worst. Granted - Valve seem to have lied a little about the game (previewing videos that don't actually depict any part of the final game, physics that looked more detailed than the game delivers), but even then it's still probably the single best FPS game available on any format!

The sheer adrenaline-fuelled episodic battle on the air-boat is worth the admission alone. Sheer brilliance!

Buy it, or forever regret it...
 
 
Grey Area
11:14 / 29.11.04
Yeah, the videos tended to stretch the truth about the interactivity with the world (I'm still looking for the radiator to bash zombies with). And the ending is a bit of a let-down. But for sheer immersion HL2 certainly sets new standards.

The first major niggle I've got so far is the lack of more than one zombie NPC. I'm referring to the basic head-crab versions, not the effin' fast Gray's Anatomy studies or the LDV crab carrier ones. It just seems odd that while there are several characters for the resistance, there's only one basic zombie.

And can someone tell me where HL2 stores the screenshots? I managed to shoot down one of the gunships in one piece and need a trophy shot.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:49 / 30.11.04
I demand that all Xbox owners buy Metal Slug 3, so that more games from SNK's back catalogue get the conversion treatment and Ingnition picks them up for UK release.

The online high scores currently total 196 records. Obviously, they must have sold a few more copies than that, but it doesn't look promising. So buy it. Now.

Takes Metal Slugs 1 and 2, and just throws more stuff into the mix. Improved animation over the Neo-Geo original, too - we're easily talking Street Fighter 3 here. The Live score table is intelligently thought-out, with use of continues banishing you to the lower ranks immediately, encouraging gamers weaned on the quick save to attempt one-credit runs. Everything's geared towards either making you smile - some of the incidental effects are absolutely cracking (level two's zombies come in loads of different types, all of which have their own method of expelling undead puke in your direction, for example) - or the search for the high score. Extra bonus points hidden away behind every innocent-looking piece of scenery.

The Xbox desperately needs more of this sort of game. Perfect for short, sharp bursts of play, and a real pleasure to experience. It's the perfect echo of some of the 16bit run 'n' gun classics - Probotector, Gunstar Heroes, etc. Two-player mode is, as ever, some of the sweetest game pie you will ever taste.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:00 / 01.12.04
Stop flauntin' your impressive games near the cheap seats!
 
 
Jack_Rackem
00:30 / 01.12.04
What I'm looking forward to is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Which looks a lot more interesting than Half-Life 2, too bad it's been delayed again.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:37 / 01.12.04
Thanks for the DS link by the way, Dudley, I sent it to my sister when she was asking me what I might like for Christmas. For all the good that'll do! But anyway.

Link's Awakening was my very first Zelda. You meant the original Gameboy one, right, Dudley? God, that brings back happy days. I had never been so excited for a game, and I somehow persuaded my parents that it would be a great holiday treat. I remember playing it while staying in a gite in France, surrounded by it's massive grounds, all these creepy forests... and gosh. It was amazing.

And I think I realised where my immense fondness for the Wind Waker really comes from - as it was the first Zelda game I played in 3D, somehow the previous one passed me right by - it was the kind of feeling I got when I first played Mario 64. It didn't seem quite real that this thing from my childhood was all 3D, looking practically immaculate and the controls were so well interwoven. Going back to Ocarina from there, it seems like a step back, and it was harder to get so in to it (because of the controls) but I can completely see why it would have been so exciting for the time. And I can see how WW might be flawed coming from that direction, but I didn't notice... and everything about it oozes so much quality over so many other games that it seems almost naughty to complain. It's startling how much difference there is in quality from a game like this to a game like... Spider-Man 2, or Tony Hawk, fun as they are.

I don't know why I'm saying all this. I know I played a little of the Wind Waker the other day, and because I knew exactly what to do I was barely paying attention and just kind of... watching myself play. I just felt like a kid, who was suddenly playing the games he'd always imagined when he was little. I'm a bit wary of the new one, to be honest, because it doesn't look to create such a fully integrated and believable world, in the sense that it's never going to look as real as the Wind Waker looks like a cartoon.

I'm such a Zelda whore.
 
 
lekvar
01:18 / 01.12.04
this one's for Cloned Christ On A HoverDonkey -
I know this'll cause more than a few shocked gasps, but I've never played the first Half Life. I want to get in on the HL2 action, but I want to go through the first game before I delve into the sequel. Now I notice that the Silver pack comes with HL1 and some other goodies, but the Steam site is, shall we say, vague on details.

So what happens when you download Steam and purchase the Silver pack? Do you have to download a CD's worth of data? Can you choose what you want to download and when? Is it like a private connection to an online store? Any problems or funkyness to report?

The luddites demand facts!
 
 
iamus
01:49 / 01.12.04
Mmmmmmmm. I love Zeldaspeak.

I think a good Zelda game is like a jigsaw puzzle that somebody has already started. The basic framework is there, and you can pretty much tell what the picture is meant to be, but there's these niggling gaps that you compulsively have to fill. Each item you get and area you find is one more piece on the way to completeness.

My favourite has to be Link to the Past, hands down. To run the metaphor into the ground, you can flip the puzzle over to a whole other picture and placing pieces on that side helps complete the other. The light/dark world dynamic is beautiful and perfectly excecuted. It never hiccups once, which is mind-boggling considering how complex it would have been to develop. To my mind, nothing has trumped that to this day. The central conceit of Metroid Prime 2 apes it, but doesn't really come close.

Link's Awakening is also great. I don't think there was that big a gap between me playing these two, so the experience kind of melds into one. LttP I've played more often since, so that differentiates itself a little better. I think, however that the double whammy (along with Mario World) really opened me up to the possibilities of gaming. Up until that point I'd only had home computers. Some amazing games on them, but, well... Miyamoto.

I think I played through Ocarina about three times in a row. A touch obsessive perhaps, but it had been five years in the waiting and it didn't let me down. The atmosphere of that game was like nothing I'd seen before. I could ride around on Epona watching the sun come up for hours. The dungeons were amazing, stertching my brain into dimensions it never got to before. I was just in awe from start to finish.

Wind Waker, I have to admit that I'm in two minds about it. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot about it that I love but there's also some major flaws that, when piled on top of Mario Sunshine, kind of deflated me. One thing I really loved was the look of it. Closest thing to the 2D Zeldas that you could get, I thought it totally captured the feel of it and connected it to the series' roots. Link's eyes (especially in the dark) were just full of character. One of the things about Ocarina (as I mentioned in a previous post) is that it did seem a little removed from previous instalments. The town stuff was better than Ocarina and there were lots of really fun minigames all about the place. The end fight with Ganon was brief, but one of the coolest and most stylish bits of Zelda ever.

The things I found wrong with it have been well documented by other people. I thought the seafaring stuff wasn't as well implemented as it should have been. I did enjoy tearing through the surf, but combat on sea just wasn't worth it unless necessary. I think we were sold a little short on dungeons (and the less said about the dredging of Triforce pieces and paying to translate their Tingle charts the better). The dungeons that we did get were good but (I think it was maybe said in Edge) they weren't as complex, being focused more on one room puzzles rather that considering the structure of the dungeon as a whole when working through them. I didn't find them as taxing as the other games like the Water temple in Ocarina and (I think) the tower one near the end of Awakening.

Wind Waker wasn't a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it's a fantastic game. It's just that it wasn't quite perfect enough to measure up to the insane levels of quality its forebears had set.


Christ! As you can tell, I'm a bit of a Zelda whore myself. I've not touched on Majora or NES Zelda, but this post is long enough as it is.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:34 / 01.12.04
Metal Slug's 14 squids, Suedey. I have permanent residence in the cheap seats.

Majora's Mask is by far and away the best Zelda episode yet, in my very much not humble opinion. Dungeons are cool and all, but MM is the only game in the series that shifts the emphasis and sticks you in the middle of a living world. That Nintendo are apparently playing up the combat more than anything else in the new game is gutting.
 
 
iamus
13:10 / 01.12.04
Yeah, I know what you mean, but I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to pull something amazing out of the hat. Playing up the combat may be some sort of sleight of hand on their part. Do we have any idea on what the new main toy will be?
I've been hearing promising things about friendly packs of doggies and super-secret features.
Judging by their talk of the next-gen Mario, they seem to be taking heed of the reservations people had regarding their recent output.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:16 / 01.12.04
Wait there Spatula... how many consoles do you have again? Cheap seats you say? You don't know anything about cheap seats!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:17 / 01.12.04
Stop flauntin' your impressive games near the cheap seats!

If it makes you feel any better, I went on a cheap game jamboree the other day. Game have a whole bunch of not-so-well-reviewed games for about a fiver each, so I picked up Dredd vs Death and Wolverine's Revenge. Yeah, they didn't deserve higher scores than they got, but for a fiver they're both pretty fun. The Dredd game in particular really does have vast appeal for my inner 12-year-old, who's always secretly longed to run around MC1 with a Lawgiver.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:20 / 01.12.04
I'm tempted by Dredd vs Death, for the same reason. I played Rogue Trooper on the Spectrum to the end... which was an oddly existential experience.

I have Half Life 2. It's on my desk. I can't unlock it at work. I just can't...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
13:21 / 01.12.04
The Dredd game's okay. It just feels like it was created as a reply to Half Life, then they lost the code for five or six years.

Meludreen> I'm trying to persuade Suedey (and any other Cube owner who'll listen) that Skies of Arcadia is a necessary purchase. Please tell me that you own it, too - you're my last Barbelith hope.
 
 
fluid_state
13:26 / 01.12.04
Hey, I liked Wolverine's revenge. The controls kind of lacked on a PC, but it was a really good comic-character game; the extras, with the different uniforms and history bits unlocked by gameplay were a bit of class, too.
 
  

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