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Urgh! Fuck!: A thread for untamed hate and anger [PICS]

 
  

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paranoidwriter waves hello
12:48 / 06.09.06
To whom it may concern:

Only two days older than a month ago, I opened a new Investment Account at my local Post Office with a cheque in my name, and was told that it would be total of three weeks until my account was opened and for the cheque to clear and I could then access my money. Simple. Period. I therefore decided to attend to more urgent business. However, when I came back to my inbox a couple of weeks later there was a letter waiting from you (dated a week and a half earlier) requiring me to provide you with three forms of identification via the post "within 30 days of the date we received your application or the date you made your purchase at the Post Office" or my application would not be accepted.

I panicked. My problem was that I stil need a new up-to-date passport and I don't have a driving licence at the moment or any photo ID, nor do I even have the money to photocopy any documents -- all of which, ironically, are because I don't access to any money. i.e. the money from the cheque I deposited with you over a month ago, now. I therefore decided to gamble and sent you three other, original, and official documents, ALL of which met the criteria outline by YOU. And what was the reply I received today?

"We recently wrote to ask you to send us proof of your identity and address. .... This time limit has now passed and as we have not received all the documents we need, we're sorry that we are unable to accept your application so we are refunding your money.

We are sending you a warrant for £. The warrant is like a cheque, so you can pay it straight into your bank or building society account"



That was when I had to conentrate hard to stop myself from punching through a wall and bringing my pit crashing down on and around me. I took a deep breath instead, went back to your letter, and looked at what else you sent me with it: no warrant; but the exact three, original, official, and (according to your criteria) fucking appropriate documents I sent you.

SMACK!

So, here's some information for you, you dim witted wankers:

1) The post I sent you must have reached you within the 30 days: first class post always gets there within 3 fucking days of sending it, when it's within the UK; and I know you got the documents because you sent them back to me. And all this after I actually asked the man in the Post Office, "And it's really that simple?": and he replied "Yes".

2) I have had no fucking money of my own for weeks now, and I haven't eaten properly, even slighlty regularly for about as long. Oh, and there's no immediate, foreseable work or anythiing else "money" on my horizon, despite my best efforts

3) I owe money (as you know from that nasty Council Tax letter I sent you as part-proof of address); and to some good friends, as well.

4) As I type this, I am covered in shit and sitting within a heap of debris of my own making, in a place that was once a place to live, a place that I call "home". I therefore want to hunt you down and rip out your wind-pipes with my fucked up, infected, NHS teeth. For the sake of our species' evolution...

5) But I won't hunt you down. No doubt, when I finish typing this, I'll feel bad and blame everything on myself, again. And you know what? I was actually happy for a bit last night. Fool.

So, thanks for %making life easier&, yeah?

Grrrrrrrrrrrr...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
20:49 / 06.09.06
Yes Hazel Blears, trade unionists are only interested in "bread and butter issues". YOU MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL HAZELBLEARS. YOU ARE MY NIGHTMARE.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
22:49 / 07.09.06
At the start of the summer, My Partner and I were the victims of an attempted mugging, three days after she'd moved to Nottingham to be close to me. The whole thing was nowhere near as serious as MW's recent encounter. We we're followed for 10 minutes by two kids on bikes (We guessed them to be a 12 year old and a 15 year old.) threatening us and grabbing at our clothes and bags. after a while the 12 year old decided to punch me in the eye, which was surprising.

My memory's a little hazy thanks to the adrenaline, but my partner tells me I didn't even break stride, I just said ow and carried on while she stopped to pick up my glasses. After the punch failed they followed us at a distance and only bothered us by calling and laughing when Hayley started crying.

Now, my anger is three fold. First, I'm angry about the actual attempted mugging. Secondly, I'm pissed off at myself for still being terrified everytime I step outside. Anywhere. I no longer feel safe ouside. ANYWHERE. Fuck that .

Finally, and this is the reason I'm posting after all this time, on the way home from work this evening My Partner walked past the 12 year old with a group of his friends and they laughed as he shouted that he'd "banged her boyfriend up" and asked her to "bring him out so I can do it again". FUCK THAT. FUCK THAT.

Good Christ I'm so fucking angry I'm trying to break the keyboard while I'm typing. Sorry if much of that is unintelligible/irrational, I'm not in a nice frame of mind right now.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
16:07 / 08.09.06
Eh? What's this, person I used to date? You're now dating the person who SET US UP in the first place, who I went to for counsel when things were weird between us, who at the time was, so I am just now learning, madly in love with you? What's this? I now have to question everyone's motives behind what happened this summer, including my own?

...alright, fine, it's a mindfuck but I can handle it.

but maybe you should have picked a better time to tell me you two were dating than ONE DAY BEFORE WE ALL HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK TOGETHER

irresponsible bastards, with your horrible sense of timing...
 
 
All Acting Regiment
19:23 / 08.09.06
Chao- sounds exactly like what used to happen to me. You have a lot of sympathy, and, something I don't allow for myself, respect, for the way you handled that situation.

Why? Because in my case I punched the fucker back, and bounced them against a brick wall until they were unconscious. Their friends ran away, and I left my attacker gasping on the pavement, bloody-mouthed. Even though in my case I was 17 and the guy was a couple of years older than me, I'm the absolute opposite of proud. I should have been able to get rid of the attacker without sinking to that level.

They grow up. Remember that.
 
 
Spaniel
19:44 / 08.09.06
Jesus, legs, that's hardcore. I mean, you actually bounced someone against a wall? I thought that only happened in movies.

You must've been mighty fucking angry.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
09:41 / 09.09.06
Aye, I was- it's the adrenaline rush. You know The Hulk? That general concept is true to life, just red not green.
 
 
Lama glama
19:32 / 09.09.06
Okay, this particular urrghfuck pales in comparison to what Wonderstarr went through, but the topic does exist in order for one to vent.

First thing this morning, I logged onto my university's website to discover that I had failed my chemistry exam. I had only one exam to resit out of 11, and I couldn't even pass it a second time 'round. I tried to study all throughout summer, but thanks to the wretched part-time work that I have, I found it impossible to find time and to have enough energy left after work to even stay awake, let alone open a chemistry book.

My only option now, is to spend the money that I'd been saving for my second year of university on retaking the chemistry module. The real kicker is, I wouldn't even be studying chemistry for the second year course that I wanted to take, yet it was still a pre-requisite. Of course, there is the option of quitting work, quitting college and heading off to some foreign country, find a nice easy job and bum about the place, looking at the pretty sights during the weekends. This is what I really want to do, but I feel pressured by those around me to continue with education.

Another stupid thing about this, is that my friends, the friends that I had to work incredibly hard to make are now all going onto their second years and I feel as if they'll be ignoring me, the moron who couldn't even pass a chemistry exam that they all seemed to pass effortlessly.

Fuck you Avogadro, and fuck your number too.

Then, on a more pedestrian note, work was one of those days where head to desk interaction felt inevitable. I had my gender questioned by a hideous affront to humanity which resulted in him addressing me as an it for the entirety of our transaction. I had diahrrea for the second half of the day, I broke the screen on my phone and I lost twenty quid.

And they cast Ardal O' Fucking Hanlan as a villain in the new series of Doctor Who. That is possibly the worst thing that has happened today.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
19:46 / 09.09.06
Sorry about your day, Llama. I hope it gets better.

I'll restrain from my Doctor Who shock to another thread.
 
 
jeed
20:39 / 09.09.06
Unlucky Llama, sounds like youve had a bit of a shit one.

Could you retake the exam without repeating the year though? I mean, if you've passed 11 out of 12 exams you're obviously not in over your head - everyone's got a bit of a blind spot for some bit of any big fuck-off scary high-level course. You could either stay around your college city and work full time, and study for this one exam at your leisure for a year, stay in touch with your mates from the course (and get help off them if you need it), and maybe get stuck into all the things that you want to do at university but can't because you don't have the time. Or...you could bugger off and go traveling, take a bagful of textbooks, and spend a bit of spare time (when you're not having amazing experiences in a new land) making sure that it's third time lucky. So you don't have to quit your course to have a year out? Seems like you've got the ultimate get-out clause of an enforced year off.

Good luck with it anyhow, and hope you find the twenty quid.
 
 
Shrug
23:07 / 09.09.06
Terrible position to be in Llama. One I hope I won't share come October. Sympathies.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
07:36 / 10.09.06
That's terrible, Firecrew. I don't think my experience should mark the ultimate-low standard of attack experiences as I just got a gut feeling the 3 men who confronted me weren't actually from that street. So, while I can't imagine wanting to walk up that street again in the near future, I don't really expect to recognise them or be recognised by them again. Your experience, awfully, has to drag on.

I see what you mean too, Legba, but I think if you'd been a bit more restrained in your response ~ just scaring the guy rather than leaving him unconscious ~ you could feel perfectly entitled to do that. I was attacked in the street some years ago and still feel pretty good that I delivered one of them a really solid kick as he ran away. He looked at me as if the world had turned upside down ~ almost with surprised hurt. I feel good about that. But yeah, if he'd smashed his head against a wall I suppose I might start feeling I was the bad person.
 
 
Lama glama
11:41 / 10.09.06
You could either stay around your college city and work full time, and study for this one exam at your leisure for a year, stay in touch with your mates from the course (and get help off them if you need it), and maybe get stuck into all the things that you want to do at university but can't because you don't have the time

Yeah, I think I'm going to do this. I'm going to use all the spare time to join all of those societies that I was desperate to join last year, but had no time to. Dramat and Choral, here I come.
 
 
jeed
20:46 / 10.09.06
well, y'know, just a suggestion - i was thinking that maybe there was something outside university that you might fancy doing for a year, but hey, fuck it...you sound like you know what you want, so stick with it.
 
 
Psych Safeling
18:58 / 11.09.06
A tendency (that seems to be becoming increasingly widespread, and all the more annoying for it) to say 'the reason being is that...'. Has someone clever coined the concept of the Reason Being as an entity that itself takes verbs? Is it someone clever known only to estate agents?
 
 
grant
15:28 / 12.09.06
Obviously, it's some sort of bacterial thing -- probably a strain of meningitis or something else that could be engineered to affect language centers of the brain.

Bed rest, fluids and plenty of garlic.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
18:00 / 12.09.06
I'm tired of my coworkers making stupid assumptions about what I am incapable of because of my gender, telling me that all bisexual people are actually just gay (and, therefore, disgusting and evil), and that I am an idiot for leaving my high-paying, soulless computer job for an Americorps volunteer position. And for, in general, being boring and ignorant and in all other ways a total failure of a replacement for the two rather interesting people who previously had their desks. I used to look forward to going to work, and now I have a harder and harder time getting up on time and cannot wait for my contract to be up so I can get the fuck out of this stupid town.
 
 
Lama glama
18:09 / 12.09.06
I'm sorry to hear that your workplace has become a horrible place to be, pants brigade. Any advice that I send your way is likely to already have been considered, but have you contacted the Americorps ombudsperson if one such person exists? I know that involving another party in the problem might make you feel a little uncomfortable, but if it ultimately resovles the problem and makes where you work a happy place again, the mightn't it be worth the effort?

Other than that; many huggles and I hope everything is eventually resolved happily.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
18:13 / 12.09.06
I know what you mean, kind of. But people make assumptions all the time; it's how me survive. We can only guarantee they are based on fact, by asking direct and honest questions. Some people aren't very good at this (me included). So this might be that Fundamental Attribution Error that Ganesh introduced me to via Barbelith.

i.e. try to answer their questions as though the general meaning is positive and their just being hampered by years of bad language use (i.e. lazy language assumptions).

But most of us have breaking points. Very few people are ALWAYS patient.

Therefore, I bet you've already had enough of being mindful about all this, and you either need a new challenge, or a holiday, or another such, new, more fluid, advanced environment. Or a walk in the park, even?

I know I could do with a bit of all of the above. And more money (sadly).

Good luck and best wishes; for whatever you choose.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
18:16 / 12.09.06
(Oops! My previous post was a response to pants brigade.)
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
18:36 / 12.09.06
the whole thing started with this diversity project we're meant to be working on and scheduling events and activities for things like black history month or GLBT pride month. the (is it worth while to mention that she's black? it makes a difference to me, because I think she ought to see some parallels here) woman next to me remarked that she doesn't think GLBT month is something to celebrate, and we were off.

we did end up having about a 2 hour conversation that day in which I was quite shocked to learn that I am now the only one in this office who does not refuse to associate with all things "gay". we remained relatively level-headed, though I'm not sure if I convinced anyone of anything. we were then informed by management that we are not to talk about gay people at work, but the occasional comment still comes out and irritates.

anyway...my contract is done in about two months. fuck it, I'll survive. I only go Argh and want to hit things a couple of times a day. I just wish they hadn't sucked so much of the fun out of this place.

blarg...enough of my whining. people with bigger problems deserve your sympathy (much thanks though.)
 
 
Dead Megatron
18:45 / 12.09.06
Well, since this the untamed hate and anger thread, as your lawyer I'd advice you to tell them all th go fuck themselves in whichever way they like the least. After all, soulless people will never get people with souls anyway.

But I'm only saying that here. Usually I'm a nice guy. And not even a lawyer.
 
 
Peek
19:09 / 12.09.06
Arrrgggghh! TV is bad for me.

"Decimated" DOES NOT mean "horribly destroyed".
There are plenty of other words for "bad" than "disgusting".
You DON'T know your rights.
And yes, they really CAN do that to you.

GAH!

... ok, my spleen feels a bit better now. I'm sorry it's trivial. But it makes me rageous.
 
 
Blake Head
19:11 / 12.09.06
A young guy came into the bookshop where I work. He proceeded to ask if we had various imaginary sounding books, which we didn’t, and then he “cut to the chase” and asked where we kept our erotic fiction, except that he didn’t call it erotic fiction and he refused to believe that we didn’t have any. And, without getting into detail, this escalated to the point where this lucid appearing individual asked, explicitly, about various novels, art books and videos that we might have that could help him get off, made various assertions about how I knew what he was talking about and how he knew what I liked, culminating in my basically being cornered (behind the desk) then propositioned. He only left when I phoned the police.

At this point I’d spent all morning reorganising the academic section of the store, getting ready for the students coming back, boxing up 200 books that were going to be used as props in a BBC film, and dealing with several large boxes of cognitive philosophy, on top of the usual stuff. This was mid-afternoon and I hadn’t had any lunch yet. I didn’t need anything else today, thank you. I didn’t need to deal with fuckwits taking up my time, making me feel uncomfortable and defensive, for a process which achieved precisely nothing.

And despite being tired, and hungry, and having far too much to do (for such is a bookseller’s life, alas), I managed to stay civil to this person. Although… that’s not actually true, I was trying to help him as best as I could, rather than just telling him to get lost, but when it was becoming more clearly an incident verging on sexual harassment I think I said something like “This is either a prank or you’re an idiot” so I didn’t even really get the cool, calm collected professional demeanour right. So it was a bit of a muddle really. But at first, and it seems bizarre now, but I remember thinking at the time that I didn’t want to come off deeply prudish or conservative, or to give this guy a hard time because he was looking for something most people would see as unconventional. So I was like, “hey, no, no I don’t think we have any of that them there hardcore gay pornography, but you could always have a look over there, yes, no, sorry, no…” And it’s not like I find the idea of being approached for the hot, casual man-on-man sex wrong in principle, there’s just a time and a place and a way of asking, and this wasn’t it.

When he actually became quite seriously abusive, I was already locked into trying to deal with it professionally, and with civility, and persisted without submitting to the desire to beat him around the head with one of my shoes. But reflecting upon it I felt quite constrained by the idea, which I think I had grabbed onto with a certain degree of anxiety and confusion, that I had to try and remain discursive with this man, that I had to try and give him every last benefit of the doubt. Which I think is one of those unpleasant squirming instances where you find yourself reacting as an individual in a certain role rather than as yourself. I found myself communicating vacuous things approximate to “This conversation is, uh, making me feel uncomfortable” and “I am, uh, like, unable to continue this conversation if you continue to say what you are saying about those things you are saying in that, uh, way… ok?”. I’d been reading a small set of short stories by Brett Easton Ellis the night before but it’s no excuse.

As it turns out it was, literally, a joke. A woman (who appeared unaware of what he’d actually said) came in later and explained that it was a staged incident for an entertainment show on satellite tv. I said no to the use of the material (obviously), but I was still too frazzled to actually get any details about the show, and y’know, do anything about the methodology of this modern proponent of dark, edgy humour. I mean, what were you thinking? I work in a small but respectable bookshop. I’m a representative of a children’s charity. I was not a likely candidate to invite you into the back room or to produce a stash of surreal TV-worthy dirty books. You walked into that shop, you saw that I was working on my own, and you worked out how far you could push it with this square-looking bookshop guy, how uncomfortable you could make him feel, how distressing a scene you could make in a situation where he couldn’t just walk away, and you pushed it to the point where either he would call the police or initiate a confrontation.

And because it was for television that makes it ok, and because it was for television it makes into a surreal and somewhat absurd anecdote rather than harassment? So now I don’t just have to deal with difficult customers but on top of that with fake difficult customers as well, who have an agenda of making me feel manipulated and stupid!?

And what really infuriates me now is that it could have been someone I work with far less comfortable dealing with that sort of situation that the guy could have cornered. It could easily have been one of my female co-workers (not that that should really make a difference, but for historical reasons I’d be even less comfortable with a man acting in that way towards a potentially more vulnerable woman), or someone that had suffered abuse/harassment in the past, he decided to make feel uncomfortable. In short, he could have done that to someone to whom it wouldn’t be a somewhat rattling experience to be forgotten about by the next week, he could have done it to someone who had a history of incidents like these, and in the manner he did it it could have been fairly traumatic.

Far worse things happen. There are more serious instances of sexual harassment, abuse and general assault that I’m sure many here are personally familiar with (btw Miss W, I really hope everything goes ok with the surgery, and the repercussions of the incident are as minimally serious as they can be), and greatly more consequential victimisation. But it was for nothing? The net benefit was nothing? We accept and hope to change a certain amount of casual evil in the world but the bizarre and trivial act of not just tricking or embarrassing people but actually harassing them to the point of distress leaves me gasping with its sheer vicious pointlessness. And you could have done that to someone for whom the memory will not be completely, utterly erased by the time the next West Wing or Doctor Who box set arrives, you thoughtless, thoughtless bastard.

But even if this was just a very small taste of what it can be like to belong to a less privileged social group than I do, even if comparatively this is Nothing. At. All. this was still not a day when I felt particularly well-equipped to deal with your detournement of my professional life; I was at my wit’s end, I had better things to do, and my awareness of a person’s right to liberty of space and movement was just fine without your penetrating analysis, thank you. And now I feel foolish, drained of adrenaline, and like I’ve over-reacted to something that in some skewed model of reality was meant to be funny. But this is the headsickness thread:

So, dude, whoever you were, I hope that the shitty job you are employed in is something you are doing part-time to get you through college, where you are studying something useful, and someday soon you will contribute something of worth to the society you live in, because today your contribution was less than zero, and for the sake of that you made me distressed, and angry, and you ruined my day.
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:12 / 12.09.06
Peek, you seem to be watching way too much cop shows
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
19:24 / 12.09.06
Geez, Blake.

What a horribly bizarre situation to be in. Why do a certain section of society think that it's not only OK, but actually very funny indeed, to make other individuals extremely uncomfortable and distressed?

The gits.
 
 
petunia
21:40 / 12.09.06
Bastard Apple! You made iTunes more ugly!

And you stole coverflow! And I don't want to have to give you my credit card details so that I can get the artwork for my music!

FUCK YOU!

(yes. petty..)
 
 
Peek
21:58 / 12.09.06
DM: sadly true.

BH: that's a horrible thing to happen, and triggers more rage on my part about what the hell is so damn funny about people being upset, tricked, harrassed, duped, made to look stupid, told lies, mocked and belittled? There's a giant amount of it on telly, and it's rife in advertising, FFS. You want to sell stuff with that? "I'm a c*nt, buy my goods"?

And Apple.... you are never getting one damn penny from me for your broken, lame crippleware. Fuck off. You and your DRM-toting asshat buddies are NOT telling me what I can do with my property. (Sony - I'm looking at you. Stop making your gadgets so damn shiny. I'm never buying anything else from you. No, I'm not. Nope.)

I think I need a little lie down.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:15 / 12.09.06
BH, did you ask what channel they were working for? I know people with swords.
 
 
Quantum
10:08 / 13.09.06
Blake, console yourself with the thought that there's a strong likelihood of the guy getting kicked in the balls next time, I'm thinking of a bookseller in Dr Martin's boots.
*crunch*
"AAARGH!"
"What? It was a prank for TV? Oh, sorry, hahahahahaha! Yes of course you can screen it, how funny! What do you mean I cracked your pelvis?"
 
 
Olulabelle
10:47 / 13.09.06
Blake Head, I think you should write and complain but I don't know who to, since you don't have the name of the show. But you could still write, perhaps to the Broadcasting Complaints Commission or whatever they're called. I just don't see how harrassment can be considered as something funny-for-telly.
 
 
Princess
11:02 / 13.09.06
I'm pretty sure harrasment is always harrasment. I'm sure there is somekind of legal threat you could make?
 
 
William Sack
11:13 / 13.09.06
I'm sure there is somekind of legal threat you could make?

Yes, that you know lawyers with swords.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
18:46 / 13.09.06
CRANE FLIES IN MY HOUSE OH GOD OH GOD HELP
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:53 / 13.09.06
Other than budgeting, what exactly is the difference between happy slapping and TV pranks?

I'm gonna kick Jeremy Beadle's head in. And film it on my mobile.

Which is all a roundabout way of saying shit, Blake, what a bunch of wankers.
 
  

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