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Randy, I guess you're refering to your first post in this thread, right? Now maybe I can't see the wood for the trees, but at what point does tat post prove that Haus has accepted all critiscm in this thread with good grace? I am puzzled by your response, so maybe a little clarification would help me work it out.
Were my posts "bum-licky"? I don't think so. Was Haus "pissed" by them? Doesn't seem so.
There's a really basic error in logic evident in a lot of posts here. This whole thing about some people being more respected than others - do you not think that there might be a good reason for this? Like, say, they add more to the board than those who don't receive the same levels of respect? That the people who get 'picked on' for contributing little that adds anything entertaining, intelligent or otherwise of worth to the board are getting 'picked on' because this is actually the truth of the matter? That they *don't* add anything worthwhile to the place? That it has nothing whatsoever to do with length of service or geographical location, or whatever other yawnsome consipracy theory is flavour of the day in Club Nobrain?
That, to try and hammer this notion home, there are good reasons why some people generate more respect than others? That there are good reasons why some of those others generate litle other than ill-feeling? Anybody who's wanting Haus to admit culpability in having caused or perpetuated certain arguments here had better be prepared to do the same themselves if they've also been involved in them, otherwise they're just going to come out of this looking like tiresome moaners. If he's being a big old smelly poo-pants to you, you might want to step back for the tiniest second and wonder if you've given him a reason or an excuse.
You know what r&r said to Haus earlier on in the thread about the "desire to simply run over the same fight, time and time again". works both ways. You ever wonder, those of you who always seem to be on the receiving end of a Hausattack, why it's always you? You ever think that it's maybe a bit odd how you demand that Haus be the one to alter his behaviour, like the fault lies only at his door?
I'm sure, for example, that Fucking Fuckwit Finger thinks that ze's being attacked because as a newbie ze's an easy target, when the truth of the matter is that ze's being attacked because ze's done nothing since arriving here but try and get into arguments of personality with Haus - in fact, it's increasingly apparent that this was the main driving force behind hir wanting to join up here ("I've been lurking for aaaaaages, wanting to become a member, but it's only now, now that I finally get a chance to post, that I realise that Haus is this that and the other").
It's the same thing as got a number of people wound up by you, Math - the whole business of dropping onto the board and immediately spending more time in Policy holding forth on What's Wrong With Barbelith than posting on any other subject in any other forum. Only, in FFF's case, it's obvious that ze has no interest in anything other than singing the Haus is a Bully song.
And I'm bored to tears of people crying about Haus being a big meanie to them, but not having the self-awareness to even consider the possibility that they may have done something to provide him with an in, with an opportunity to be a big meanie to them.
Right. And onwards.
sibyline: a. I felt disempowered by his position on the board, given that a lot of people seem ready to defend him.
To defend him when they think he's correct or when they think the person attacking him is doing so for no good reason. Because, hey, guess what - it happens. It happens a lot. Not, as a lot of the whining in those threads claims, to defend him because he's their best chum matey-mate who lives down the road and invites them to tea parties and sleep-overs. Oo, Haus, do you remember when we stayde out all night in the tent in your back garden? We had fish fingers and potato waffles for tea and we ate too many hundreds and thousands and I nearly sicked on the lawn but you said it's okay and you held my hand and wiped my brow down with a wet towel and we told ghost stories and laughed about when Amy Jenkins called the teacher 'mummy' and I LOVE YOU AND WILL NEVER ALLOW ANY MOTEHRFUCKER TO HARM A HAIR ON YOUR HEAD. STAB. STABKNIFEYSTAB. NOW WE'LL NEVER BE APART AGAIN.
It was clear that Haus and a few others were not making allowances for me being new
Why were allowances necessary? Did you not read the board in the prolonged period between your discovering it, requesting membership and going through the new member vetting procedure? Why should allowances be made? What sort of allowances? Should we let somebody off for, say, being a little bit racist in their first fifty posts because, hey, it's alright - they're new! A little bit incapable of reading threads properly before replying to them because, hey, Barbelith's the only message board on the entire internet where you're expected to have paid other people the simple courtesy of paying attention to them before addressing them? Poster X included a photo of his big throbbing cock in the Doctor Who thread, but it's alright - he's new!
Why allowances? What allowances?
I just *don't have time* to make my arguments rhetorically bulletproof such that they wouldn't be subject to ungenerous interpretation.
Then - and this may sound a little unkind, so brace yrself - don't post your arguments until you have the time. Or don't post them unless you're prepared to go back into the thread afterwards and readdress the bits that fell short. I try not to post here unless I've either put a decent amount of thought into my post prior to typing it out, or have enough time at the time to do so while I'm typing. You've either got to be prepared to spend more time thinking about what you're saying here or else to have poorly thought-out posts challenged. If anybody isn't capable of or prepared to do that, I'd suggest this may not be the board they were looking for. |
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