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Haus-
It’s up to you what you do with the feedback. If you don’t like honest feedback, don’t ask for it.
Your stance in this discussion suggests to me that you have no interest in changing your ways to make your stance less confrontational. It is my opinion that you posted this thread, not to become educated of people’s feelings, but just to kind of ‘show off’ in front of your friends here. It is basically an ego thread, in my opinion, with nothing to do with policy, and as such, belongs in ‘conversation’.
I am aware that attack of the clones is a star wars film. However, the jokey title for the thread is, in my opinion (or if you like I feel) not conducive to a supposedly serious thread in Policy, where you are inviting discussion with people who may have felt slighted by you in the past.
This, incidentally, is why it is often useful to use "I feel" statements - you have made a series of assumptions above, stated as facts, that are both inaccurate and indeed offensive.
no I haven’t. if you read it again, you will find that I have been very clear that it is mostly my opinion, which is exactly what you asked for on the first page. The only thing I claim to be fact is that you ‘dumped’ on Megatron, with your (in my opinion, incredibly patronising) 'dung-spattered village idiot' comment. I think that’s pretty indisputable, and I stand by it.
If you re-read my post, you will see that I have been very careful not to state my opinions as facts, as you claim I have.
It is having to correct this kind of sloppy inaccuracy that I find persistently annoying in discussions with you, and why I am confused as to why some members hold you up as being skilful with reasoning. It is a waste of everyone’s time.
As to quite what you are offended by, I really don’t have a clue. ‘these assumptions’ is a bit vague, a bit nebulous really for me to even consider apologising. What assumptions? I posted my opinions, and labelled them clearly.
So this is the second thread you have started about yourself? So what did you learn from the first one? I think that’s pretty ego-centric Haus. In a way, I take my hat of to your brazen Haus-centricity.
Hmmm, the first ‘burning down the haus’ thread is gone from the archives, but I see you have answered the question ‘what did you learn from b.d.t.h’ in a thread you started, where you interviewed yourself…(?!)
Hmmm....something I should probably have realised - that those most likely to end up on the receiving end of what for want of a better term could be called a Haus job are those least likely to be able to deal with it well
A haus-job?! like a hatchet job, maybe…?
my response to this, is that you have put the cart before the horse. In my opinion, the people who are least likely to be able to deal with it, are those who are most likely to be on the receiving end of, as you put it, a ‘Haus job’, namely vulnerable newbies, people who are formulating their opinions, or people posting a subtle point, which you can then easily mis-interpret and turn into a straw man argument. (link optional)
along with yet another trot-out for the idea of dumping,
what you did was dumping. If you don’t accept that insulting someone and refusing to apologise is dumping, then… there isn’t a lot I can say to you.
It’s quite something to ask someone to spend five minutes of their time reading something that you think is interesting or pertinent
No, dude, it really isn't.
Shouldn’t that be ‘I feel it isn’t’, according to your own rules? in which case fine, but I would tend to disagree with you. And I certainly don’t think hectoring people to read a link, which is what I felt you and flyboy were doing, is particularly productive.
Another general point I’d like to make is that, in my opinion and from my own observations, you do not allow for people changing their opinion during threads. In my opinion, you like to nail some posters to one position, so that you can knock it down. I think many people post here because they are interested in developing their ideas and being influenced. I believe that this is another reason why people can be frustrated when engaging in discussion with you. At times I have found this most annoying. Again, I post this because you asked for feedback.
I have never seen you ‘lose’ an argument. This to me suggests something is wrong here, because no-one is right all the time. I am curious as to what you really think, or who you really are, because you come across to me as strangely 2 dimensional.
I had a very casual friend who was a martial arts expert. He was quite aggressive. One day I saw him, and he’d just had a fight the night before. He won. He said to me “I have never lost a fight. It’s a gift I have, to never lose a fight”
And I wanted to say “one day you will lose, and on that day you will learn something” but I didn’t, cos I thought he might pop me one.
Take that as you will.
I actually find you quite fascinating, as I wonder what motivates your behaviour. It seems to me you are so fanatical about starting and then winning arguments, that you are prepared to spend huge amounts of your time doing it, and the fact that you have created this thread would seem to indicate that you are aware that you are doing this. So what puzzles me, is “why”? I mean, I would guess you do not learn anything from doing a 'haus-job' on someone. You also seem to be more interested in the argument than whatever the topic is, in my opinion. And I have also noticed that you don’t seem to like a discussion to be summarised or wrapped up, or changes implemented- you often, in my opinion, post obfuscating questions that continually muddy the issue.
It’s like this very thread; I doubt you will take anything that has been discussed on board, and in a few months we’ll have the ‘burning down the haus 3’ thread, and round we go again… and again… I can only speak for myself, but after a while, discussing the subject of haus, with haus, becomes boring.
Many posters seem to see you as some kind of star of barbelith. I don’t suscribe to this opinion. I find your arguments sometimes interesting but often flawed (straw man/ semantic pedantics) and confrontational, and I think you win arguments here just because you are more interested in arguing and trying to appear to be right than anyone else I have met here. I also think you use underhand tactics and are willing to stoop to insults if a discussion is not going your way, and indeed this is amply demonstrated at various points in this very thread. I don’t feel there is anything else I can learn from you, and I find what I would call your ‘constant bickering’ tiresome. I shall be ignoring your posts from now on.
If you wish me to read your reply, feel free to PM it to me, and I shall. Otherwise, farewell, and good luck. fff
PS this seems a good enough place to say that I have no idea what you are saying to me, flyboy, as you’ve been on ‘ignore’ for a couple of weeks now.
I don’t have anyone else on ignore, and have no plans to. In fact, you 2 are the only people I have ever chosen to ignore in 6 or 7 years of using the net. So I guess that is some kind of achievement on both your parts…
PPS- this is a haus post- just wanted to say that I read the other posts, and the points made in them were digested by me… wonderstar (miss), I particularly agreed with the third paragraph of your post.
PPPS- I have tried my best to keep the above post straight and snark free... |
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