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Grant Morrison's Batman

 
  

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garyancheta
11:41 / 26.07.08
Now note that Morrison says that it is a villain "everyone knows", but that the character may not be a traditional villain.

Everyone doesn't know Alfred or Commissioner Gordon. I'm sure there are tons of people that don't know who the Joker is. But I bet you that if someone knows the Batman story, they know Batman's parents.

I'm thinking that it is Batman's father that is the Black Hand. That would take away the "revenge" motive and turn him into a superhero. That would also overturn the status quo quite well in the Batman mythos.
 
 
HCE
13:35 / 26.07.08
You are suggesting that people know of Batman's parents, but not the Joker?
 
 
FinderWolf
13:49 / 26.07.08
well, if it's not a traditional 'villain,' I think it's safe to say that everyone on the planet knows Alfred is Batman's loyal butler... just like everyone knows Spider-Man's Aunt May...
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
13:58 / 26.07.08
Axel, not a transcript per se, but a report from the Batman panel at SDCC
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
15:56 / 26.07.08
That statement makes me think of The Riddler more and more, specifically because he says "we tell you in every issue." Basically every issue starts with "Who is the Black Glove?"
 
 
FinderWolf
22:42 / 26.07.08
Also, when GM says "no one's guessed it," is that just writer hyperbole... because, if it is Alfred, as many clues point to, then people have indeed guessed it. Likewise, his comment could indicate that it's not Alfred. Ah well, we'll find out in short order...
 
 
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23:58 / 26.07.08
Maybe it's Talia? I haven't seen her name come up as a suspect much as of late. She did make that comment on the submarine about waging war with Batman, the whole thing about gameboard and pawns, and her earlier comments on how it was "all about me" and "what I want."
 
 
The Natural Way
10:33 / 28.07.08
Seems Grant's run's going to suffer more interuptions. Both O'Neil and Gaiman are set to write a couple of two parters at the end of this/early next year. Both are post RIP stories and Gaiman's is entitled 'Whatever happened to the Caped Crusader?' (shades of Alan Moore....).

Not really sure how I feel about this, but I suppose it'll allow Grant a bit of a break before he presses on with the book. I'll probably read the Gaiman one, too.
 
 
Spaniel
14:24 / 28.07.08
Gaiman's only doing one ish of Batman, with part two appearing in the pages of Detective.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:46 / 28.07.08
Looking at the newsarama interview again, I think it's the same with O'Neil too.
 
 
dark horse
16:16 / 28.07.08
keith i like your riddler theory... another idea is maybe it could be bane? he has been referenced in grant's run and he fits the "criminal mastermand" archetype...
 
 
Automatic
19:34 / 28.07.08
(psst.. I think you're overplaying the act a little..)
 
 
Spaniel
19:45 / 28.07.08
(Who rides the stallion?)
 
 
dark horse
20:33 / 28.07.08
huh??
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
21:17 / 28.07.08
I will be sorely disappointed if Alfred is the solution, and Grant Morrison's recent comments are merely "writers' hyperbole". Because if the solution is that the Black Glove is Alfred, everyone's guessed it.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
21:27 / 28.07.08
Also, Morrison's statement ("It's a villain everyone's familiar with") has three interpretations:

1) It's a villain we are familiar with, but not necessarily from Batman, or

2) It's a character from Batman we are familiar with, though not necessarily a villain, or

3) It is a famous Batman villain.

I await the sarcastic dismissal of this post from Haus or Finderwolf.
 
 
huckleberry glove soup
00:42 / 29.07.08
Who could it be... who could it be...could it be...

SATAN!
 
 
MFreitas
09:48 / 29.07.08
I'm starting to miss Magical Negro...
 
 
FinderWolf
13:31 / 29.07.08
Hey, where did *I* get the reputation of being someone who sarcastically dismisses posts? Not really my thing...

Anyway, looking forward to the next issue of this, cause now even I (who love speculation and discussion) am feeling like 'let's just get the next ish already'.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
15:25 / 30.07.08
Sorry, Finder... I meant Boboss.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
19:28 / 30.07.08
I suppose that many will have read Rich Johnston's alleged Bat-scoop from San Diego by now. Don't click unless you're willing to be potentially majorly spoiled.

Last time he made a "revelation" about GM's Batman run, he was largely correct, but what he got wrong he got dramatically wrong. (Unless it still turns out to be true.)

My thoughts are, I'm more interested with what happens to Bruce than anything that might happen in the aftermath, but it seems to me that RIP, not Final Crisis, might yet be the most major event this year,
 
 
The Natural Way
22:03 / 30.07.08
Why do you think Boboss would dig at you?
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
22:42 / 30.07.08
Oh, I don't really, I was actually thinking of someone else and got the names mixed up, so no offence, Boboss. I don't really want to go into specifics and derail this thread again, though. The point I was making was a dig at all the sniping that was going on, and not only in this thread. Gets me down sometimes.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:38 / 30.07.08
And the morals of the story? First, if you make a random and unsolicited attack on other people, that is not "a dig at all the sniping", but rather it is "sniping". Second, if you're going to snipe, make sure your sights aren't bent out of shape. Good work not derailing the thread, though!
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
00:22 / 31.07.08
Now, see, that was a proper snipe!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:26 / 31.07.08
Good work not derailing the thread, though!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:26 / 31.07.08
Good work not derailing the thread, though!
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:34 / 31.07.08
Jenna Elfman's a robot!

You're not from the Fifth Dimension at all, are you?
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
11:16 / 31.07.08
Boboss, I was wrong about. Haus, on the other hand, I was right on the money!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:29 / 31.07.08
Anyone who is still confused: Boboss was lumped in because he failed to roll over in the face of MFreitas and Hector Lima's attempts to bully anyone who wanted a thread that did anything but fanwank and link to Rich's Ramblings. Shocking sniping indeed. The rest of this I will take to the policy. For reference, Kadmon, if you try to provoke somebody into a reaction with an uninvited dig, you are not vindicated if they respond. You are trolling, whether or not they respond.
 
 
MFreitas
15:57 / 31.07.08
Oh for fuck sake... I thought this shit was over, really.

And what about someone taking this Mister Haus to policy, to a police station, to hell, to everywhere, as long as he JUST SHUTS THE FUCK UP!

Don't talk about RESPECT! Don't talk about POLITENESS! Don't dare using terms which are ALIEN to you. You're RUDE, ARROGANT! You're so much over your head you lost any perception of your own self. Who do you think you are, mate? Do you think you can talk anyway you want and everybody else will just bow down to you?

I said it and I'll say it again: YOU HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES! It's blatantly obvious in the erratic way you speak, in the erratic way you act! Even in the erratic way you're constantly changing your name! Don't you like yourself? It's perfectly understandable. I don't like you too. But I chose to ignore you. Until now. Because enough is enough! This WAS OVER. Unfortunately, you just can't shut the fuck up, can you?

And excuse me, my lord, if my english isn't perfect. Probably you do wish to switch our debate to Portuguese then?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:59 / 31.07.08
Yes. I have serious issues... of BATMAN.
 
 
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16:01 / 31.07.08
All this drama in a thread that began with, among other things, conversations on ninja manbats. Thank god there are two issues next month.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:04 / 31.07.08
Silence! This was OVER! Nobody was trying to take cheap shots! At all!
 
 
MFreitas
16:08 / 31.07.08
Even remotely similar to this?

"Boboss was lumped in because he failed to roll over in the face of MFreitas and Hector Lima's attempts tp bully anyone(...)"
 
  

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