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Aertho
18:45 / 26.11.05
Add to that: who was the dad?
 
 
The Falcon
23:50 / 26.11.05
Parthenogenesis.

I have my own Filth-y theories, involving scabby fanboys in some way.

Hurray for that image.
 
 
This Sunday
00:41 / 27.11.05
There's a three-way paranoid cross-over begging to be written, involving Powergirl's self-impregnation birth, massive chronal energies of continuity and reality shifting, combined with the Scarlett Witch's giant cosmomagick vaginal effigy and the Cerebus energies of the hungry feminine void without light.

Maybe that's the secret of the new Crisis; runs nicely along the lines of girlfriends in the fridge with torn tights and burnt pregnancies.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
01:15 / 27.11.05
t's not as thought 'Ex Machina' is the only time there's been the notion of a superpowered mayor in comics, though, innit?

So not the point! It's just a clear bandwagon-hopping move now that Ex Machina is a popular, acclaimed series.
 
 
This Sunday
01:37 / 27.11.05
Maybe. But, we don't know who the creative end of Supermayor will be, we don't know why or how or even in what way it'll play out. It's like saying since the Justice Society or League were popular, automatically all teams of tights-wearing supertypes are obviously just there to cop off the success and legendary status. That one book about a guy with a gun and a government past automatically translates to all stories involving a guy with a gun and government past being purely rip-offs trying to steal some thunder and get in on a good thing while the wave lasts.
Yeah, my first thought was 'Ex Machina' too, but it's a very simple piece of plot. In the DCU pretty much everyone has powers if they headline a book, and so a book about a politician will most likely include him being a superhero. Or villain.
My point is just... there's all sorts of ways to spin a plot and this may not even be THE PLOT but merely a plot point, one bit of progression in some story that for marketing purposes is being pushed as a big thing. That's marketing's job, though. It's too much to go 'It's a mayor with powers, so it's a rip-off of another mayor with powers' and coming on with 'He's wearing pants! George down the street wears pants! He's stolen George's deal!' And, so what if a plot is used because it's popular? I've been guilty of writing pieces I knew a particular editor would snatch up because it was a genre or a trope popular with them. Most writers who're in the job to keep eating and paying rent and such, probably do the same. Otherwise, they'd write fanfic only or self-publish. If stories about reporters with a big story forming in front of their eyes, becomes the new hot thing, surely a number of folks are going to try their hand at the model, putting their own spin on things, trying to entertain themselves and get some cash at the same time. And some of those will be shit retreads, but some might be actually good.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
01:41 / 27.11.05
I thought me, Brian Posehn, and Patton Oswalt were the only ones reading Ex Machina. At least until the movie comes out.

But seriously, it's not at all a popular series. And plus Mitch is no longer doing Superheroey things, at least on an Adventure Comic Book Level. I seriously doubt that as mayor of Bludhaven, Nightwing will have anything resembling a Sorkin experience. Oh, you know that's how it's going to go down. Out of all those, Mayor Nightwing is the only sure thing.

I can't believe they ever ever EVER thought calling a city Bludhaven was ever a good idea. And I'm not even typing it with the umlaut.
 
 
The Falcon
14:20 / 27.11.05
It's pretty popular; I think it's the best-selling creator-owned title out right now.

I'm still reading, Benny-boy, 's just lost a bit of momentum.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:47 / 27.11.05
Ex Machina does pretty well, Benjamin! It also gets loads of mainstream press and won some prestigious awards.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:54 / 27.11.05
I just checked, and Ex Machina is selling the low 20,000 range consistently, and is a strong seller in trade paperback, particularly through outlets like Amazon. That's a bit under Marvel and DC's averages, but it's huge for a non-Marvel/DC monthly.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:56 / 27.11.05
In doing that bit of Google research, I was really happy to see that Legion Of Super Heroes is doing pretty well for itself. That's refreshing, even though there's soooooooo much blatant hackwork doing much better.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:21 / 28.11.05
Interesting quote from DiDio...I never really thought all that much about the possible disparity of the characters that DC/WB ended up buying from other companies (Capt. Marvel, the Blue Beetle, etc.) since DC seems to have pretty much integrated them all into the DCU (with the exception of 2nd and 3rd tier heroes like the Question and Captain Atom) by this point...

>> The hard part for DC and the strength of DC in a lot of ways, was that it was multiple companies. You could look at Fuacett characters, Charlton Characters, DC characters…they didn’t come form the same source so every time we tried to bring them into the same world, they never really clicked and felt like they really belonged with each other.

>> What we knew we wanted to do was create an event, a story that not only found all these characters interacting in the same world, but to create a backdrop behind that world so it felt like it was all the same. The primary goal behind the four mini-series [leading up to Infinite Crisis] was to show what the DC Universe looked like. That there was something going on that affected everyone.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:20 / 28.11.05
Well, no one's happier about Ex Mach then I am, fellows. These last two issues were delicious.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:52 / 28.11.05
I might eventually go back and give Ex Machina a second shot. I bought the first four or five issues and couldn't really get into it, but I've since come to really enjoy BKVaughan's work on Ultimate X-Men and Runaways, so I'm willing to give him another shot and get the second Ex Machina book.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:38 / 28.11.05
i've bumped the Ex Machina thread so this thread can stay Infinite Crisis-related...just a suggestion.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:55 / 29.11.05
So Supergirl will jump 1000 years into the future and hang with the Legion (hopefully to still be done by Waid & Kitson). And Greg Rucka will still write her solo book...? Interesting...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:57 / 29.11.05
Mark Waid is not leaving Legion any time soon, that has already been confirmed.

However, the idea of Rucka getting into Waid's 30th century and mucking it up makes me feel a little ill.
 
 
The Falcon
17:32 / 29.11.05
Hmm. I'd guess Powergirl wil be recast as one of two Supergirls.
 
 
Mario
17:37 / 29.11.05
There are two other possibilities.

One is that the Legion Supergirl is the PAD Supergirl (who is still floating around, after all). The other is based on the last page of the latest Supergirl issue.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
17:59 / 29.11.05
"The other is based on the last page of the latest Supergirl issue."

Which means what, exactly?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
18:24 / 29.11.05
Well, when hit by Black Kyrptonite, Supergirl splits into an (unconcious) regular Superwaif and bad-ass black (costumed) supergirl. We don't really know if this new Supergirl is her evil twin, or something, unless somebody can translate the Kryptonian dialogue she has before she tells Luthor (which Luthor?) he's gonna get served.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:46 / 29.11.05
>> However, the idea of Rucka getting into Waid's 30th century and mucking it up makes me feel a little ill.

Yeah, I like Rucka, but I don't see him as a good fit for a sci-fi future 30th century book about Supergirl in Waid's Legion world. Rucka strikes me as someone who should write contemporary stuff only.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
10:35 / 30.11.05
Oh, FinderWolf, you're so lovely and moderate. I feel that Rucka should only be allowed to write things that are never ever ever published.
 
 
Benny the Ball
13:18 / 30.11.05
I'm guessing that the Martian Manhunter will be the memory loss character - takes him back to his roots kind of, him pretending to be human to fit in. The Atom has already had the whole lost on a quest story line done in the nineties, I think, but it fits more in with John Jonzz's old style.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
21:23 / 30.11.05
I really dig Rucka's novels. And Queen and Country But his superhero work makes me want to stab babies.

Same with Judd Wineck, really... I love Barry Ween, and Pedro and Me was pretty good, but put him on a tights and fights book and it makes my sphincter shrivel.

And sadly, these are two of the people driving the DC bus for the next few years. I want to see them knife fight it out with Morrison and Waid with Geoff Johns as ref. Waid's a fast little fucker.
 
 
Aertho
22:10 / 30.11.05
Not sure if anyone saw this... but it's nice to see artists aware of the IC situation.
 
 
Aertho
19:19 / 12.12.05
What the hell is this?


Sigh.
 
 
Aertho
19:29 / 12.12.05
What is the equity in building "legacy heroes" (franchises), if the original hero never leaves. Cassandra will never be Wonder Woman, Karas will continue to be discovered, Kyle will be forgotten, and Jay Garrick refuses to retire.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:44 / 12.12.05
Is it me or does that new Blue Beetle loook a little...AmbushBugified?
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
19:45 / 12.12.05
...

maybe Ambush Bug stumbled upon the scarab?
 
 
Aertho
19:48 / 12.12.05
Noone's thinking Booster Beetle?
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
19:58 / 12.12.05
Well, yeah, probably; but that's after I think "horrible Beetle costume."
 
 
This Sunday
20:02 / 12.12.05
I think we all - believe we - know that it's Booster Beetle. Presumably, this means we're wrong. Though, I hope not.
Is Booster still married?
And since the not-JLI has been to Hell recently, can't they go fetch people? Fire, Beetle, et al? Or would Ted bullet-in-the-face Kord be in Heaven? In which, if they had some really goofy plot mechanics to back it up, they (some mysterious they) could probably use Zauriel to resurrect him.
 
 
Aertho
20:09 / 12.12.05
Yes, yes.

One would assume rabid fans for the JLI will emerge from the search for the-next-thing-to be-nostalgic-about, and demand the "Return of Ted Kord" mini series. And thus we retun to a situation with two Blue Beetles, and this poor fellow can join Kyle, Connor, and Hippolyta at the Watchtower's redundancy lounge.
 
 
matsya
20:34 / 12.12.05
Personally, when I heard it was going to be Giffen, I was hoping for a little Randal and Hopkirk (Deceased) action. I still hope.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
20:49 / 12.12.05
Just in from Newsarama: the D.C solicits for March, including all the One-Year-Later titles.
We learn that:











Green Arrow becomes mayor of Star City, Robin's wanted for murder in a snazzy new outfit, the Titans and Outsiders have been disbanded and rebanded, Superman is about to leave Metropolis, Supergirl and Powergirl are now Flamebird and Nightwing- protectors of the bottle city of Kandor(!), Nightwing has adjourned to New York (and may not be Dick Grayson), it looks like Hal Jordan is the one and only Green Lantern...
Lots of stuff there is confirmation of rumours and fan speculation, for most of it to make sense we'll need to read pretty much the whole of D.Cs line (which makes me think this whole Crisis is just a CONSPIRACY to sell comics)
 
  

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