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Aertho
01:20 / 14.10.05
We at work thought that as well. Fourth episode, though, and Hurley-cenric. It was about time they gave us a break and showed a return to status quo with the Lost cast. It ain't 24.

Anyone get a screencap of the Dharma logo in the Tailaways bunker? Is it the Swan? If so, island = one huge complex. If not, several smaller complexes throughout the island.
 
 
Triplets
01:31 / 14.10.05
I believe it's different. The logo being a horizontal bar over some kind of spire. I reckon it's six modular complexes. I can't see them introducing five more islands.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
01:38 / 14.10.05
It looked like an arrow on a screencap I saw.
 
 
Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!
02:13 / 14.10.05
For your edification:





So, we assume it's "The Arrow" I guess?
 
 
buttergun
13:34 / 14.10.05
Didn't the film say there were a few "stations?" Since the scientist didn't elaborate on whether these stations were scattered about the world or just located on the island itself, I assumed the latter. So I figured the Tail-enders had found another (less cozy) station. Though as soon as they went in there, I got the feeling that somehow there might be underground tunnels that connect all of these stations. Who knows? Maybe Sayid will find some tunnels once he breaks through the wall.

As a sidenote, just want to mention how great a character Sayid is. Seriously, off all the people on the island, he gets shit done. Need to triangulate the distress signal? Get Sayid. Your ancient computer is on the fritz? Get Sayid. Want to murder Locke? Get Sayid.

I thought this week's ep was okay, mostly because we finally got away from that Mexican standoff between Jack, Locke, and Desmond that's been a part of the previous three episodes.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
14:08 / 14.10.05
was anyone else totally confused by the bit where Jack and Sayid hear that noise underground and go investigate. then suddenly jack pops up in Kate's shower for an awkward moment. what the hell happened? what was the noise and where did Sayid go?

i totally missed the Dharma logo in the second hatch area. Good eye.
 
 
X-Himy
14:21 / 14.10.05
I would imagine that it was the sound of hot water going through ancient pipes. But really an excuse for Kate in a towel and to heighten the sexual tension.
 
 
Aertho
14:38 / 14.10.05
Re: minority characters = awesomeness
Sayid is the real Jack of all trades. Sun's hard as fuck. Hurley's the heart of the show. Jin, Rose, Michael and Walt continue to surprise.

So yeah... Project Swan is codename for what exactly?

The Hanso Life-Extension Project?

The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative?

The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence?

The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative?

The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative?

The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute?

The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility?
 
 
CameronStewart
15:10 / 14.10.05
So, remember the website http://www.thehansofoundation.com ?

Add an s to the protocol and you get https://www.thehansofoundation.com

Lookie there.
 
 
CameronStewart
15:31 / 14.10.05
http://www.bigspaceship1.org/
 
 
Triplets
17:00 / 14.10.05
See, the growing problem with this is is that how much of this information is actually going to make it into the show proper? I really don't want another Donnie Darko half-the-film-scattered-about-the-web scenario. Alot of my friends who watch this really aren't geeky enough to go hunting down every clue-egg out there.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
17:39 / 14.10.05
I'm not sure that any of the web related stuff is actually essential to understanding the story. We are still asking the same questions and the web stuff isn't providing many answers. It's more like appendices or DVD extras, really.
 
 
Aertho
18:10 / 14.10.05
See, the growing problem with this is is that how much of this information is actually going to make it into the show proper?

It's not really about television anymore though. At least, that's what the guys and I are talking about here at work. LOST isn't just about a bunch of crash survivors. It's about discovering the secret of the Hanso Foundation. About "finding". They could, in theory, have the one story, the television show, coincide with Internet game sites, radio broadcast intrusions, et cetera. I'm surprised they haven't staged a Driveshaft VH1 Behind the Music yet.
 
 
Triplets
18:21 / 14.10.05
You're saying the narrative is distinctly pan-media?
 
 
Aertho
18:22 / 14.10.05
Cameron - the http"s" site won't work. Whatsit?
 
 
Triplets
18:48 / 14.10.05
https://www.thehansofoundation.org
 
 
Aertho
19:19 / 14.10.05
You're saying the narrative is distinctly pan-media?

I'm saying maybe. The context of the LOST phenomenon is not traditional narrative squence. Certainly, the television show and story therein is the centerpiece, but there are websites which offer answers as well as new mysteries. LOST pertains not to the cast, but to the struggle the audience undergoes in order to understand. Forget that - forget that your ignorance and wonder are part of the intent of the show - and you miss out on a lot.

This isn't anything new, of course... but the impact of cross-format fiction is something that storytelling hasn't really been experimented with. I doubt it will reach anything to what my friends and I here wish it would - i.e. LostWorld newspapers, radio cries for help, Driveshaft CDs, skywriting, Mr. Cluck's openings...
 
 
CameronStewart
21:17 / 14.10.05
>>>Cameron - the http"s" site won't work. Whatsit?<<<

Just a URL on an otherwie blank page -

Go to that and you'll see apparently one of several little cryptic flash animations - at the moment when I go to it it's a couple of polar bears that slide across the screen, with a red dot that quickly flashes in the centre of the screen when the bears overlap. Morse code across the top of the browser window reads "sometimes it's only a polar bear" or something similar. The flash animations (which are either random or change often) have also apparently included some bunny rabbits and a gasmask.
 
 
I, Libertine
22:07 / 14.10.05
What you need to do is "pause" the Flash animation right when the red dot appears.

And it tells you, I b'lieve, "2FENO6".

Which should be rendered 2Fe NO6.

Now Google. Could be that "smoke creature" is more like...iron filings.
 
 
I, Libertine
22:24 / 14.10.05
BTW, is anyone else slightly disappointed the Others turned out to be some fat, pirate guy and his three mates?

Y'know, I haven't seen the photo comparison, but I read that Bearded Pirate and bearded Doctoral Candidate DeGroot (from the Orientation video) look awfully similar. cue sinister string section

The Island and its mystery, I think, go way beyond the Dharma Initiative. They're just the latest tenants. I think the Others are the savage, cannibal descendants of everyone who's ever been "lost" here. And I think we'll meet the DeGroots--with Alvar Hanso cryogenically frozen--in their main lab by the end of this season, maybe next.

There's too many loose ends that have nothing to do with Hanso/Dharma for Hanso/Dharma to be the whole story.
 
 
P. Horus Rhacoid
13:46 / 15.10.05
I just had a thought- why on earth would the tailaways need a giant prison pit? It must have taken a huge amount of effort to build. So: what was it made to hold?

It makes me think that the scary island sickness is in fact something mental, and that that is the source of the tailaways' reduced numbers. Like, some sort of contagious madness with accompanying violence and super-strength and whatnot, a la Ethan. The tailaways would be understandably reluctant to kill one of their own if ze went crazy, so maybe they built the pit to house the infected. Of course, if there were other people attacking them a la the scruffy raft pirates, they could have built it to hold one of those prisoner.

I'm not sure this holds together though, given how afraid they are to stay out at night, unless there are hordes of infected tailaways tooling around the woods. I suspect there's more involved.
 
 
P. Horus Rhacoid
13:55 / 15.10.05
bigspaceship1.com, by the way, is now showing an un-animated image of three columns of five rodent heads (squirrel or prairie dog, I think) on a background of red pixels. There's some sort of image in the background but I can't tell what it is because of the heads. Might be a map of a landmass- there are lots of spidery lines that look like they could be rivers. There's nothing interactive about it as far as I can tell.

Title of the page is 15.

Weird.
 
 
Triplets
14:58 / 15.10.05
It makes me think that the scary island sickness is in fact something mental, and that that is the source of the tailaways' reduced numbers. Like, some sort of contagious madness with accompanying violence and super-strength and whatnot, a la Ethan.

Some kind of engineered, super-contagious ultraviolence meme? Shit, Sawyer, Charlie, Rosseau and Sayid have already heard the voices - maybe that's the first/second infection/"incubation" stage? The four above have already shown levels of toxic aggression - Sawyer is still a dick (altho he seems to be recovering), Charlie's killed a man, Sayid's tortured and stabbed someone and we know what Rosseau's like. Hmm.
 
 
Sniv
13:13 / 17.10.05
Hmmm, I am loving this show, and I really do hope that this is going to be a proper attempt at a more multi-media approach to storytelling. I mean, this is nothing new to us obsessive freaks, but can you imagine what all this web-conspiracy stuff could be doing to people not used to it?

I hope it's as cool as we're giving it credit, and we're not just being really obsessive and reading into things that, well, don't exist...

Still, what else are we going to do with our time?
 
 
CameronStewart
15:57 / 19.10.05
Check out Adam Hughes' cover to Catwoman 51. Looks like he's a Lost fan too...

 
 
X-Himy
16:49 / 19.10.05
Well, Pfeifer, the author of the book is a huge Lost fan, and talks about it on his blog.
 
 
Aertho
18:08 / 19.10.05
According to the Hawaiians who do the TRANSMISSION Podcast, the city in the background of Desmond and the blond girl(maybe Mrs. Jack Shepherd) is the Honolulu harbor.
 
 
Aertho
01:12 / 20.10.05
Mister Echo? Did I hear that right?

Did anybody else think the Others feet was spliced like a Tool video? Jumpy frames or whatever. I feel let down by this ep. And now 3 weeks! Aaargh.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
01:12 / 20.10.05
"So...Seoul. Is that the good Korea or the bad Korea?"

Thank TVGod for Hurley.
 
 
Tim Tempest
02:25 / 20.10.05
Filler Episode.

My sister noticed that the legs of the others were not very manly. Her theory is that maybe the 'Others' are really a gathering of lesbians needing to meet their maternal needs by stealing a 'gifted youngster'...Walt?

Or...maybe Mary Kay Letourneau is on the island...?
 
 
Krug
11:09 / 20.10.05
Complete filler except for that "legs" scene.

What a waste of time and now we have to wait three weeks before the next one. Spoilerfix.com had the name of the dying character but I didn't dare highlight the whited out text.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
11:25 / 20.10.05
with three weeks in between episodes that name is going to be spoiled all over the place. what bad timing. if it was next week, there's a chance it wouldn't filter out to everyone, but 3 weeks is a big span of time.

i honestly liked this episode more than last week's, even if last week's was about Hurley, which was TRULY filler.
 
 
Edward Mekka hates graphix
12:40 / 20.10.05
Aww Keith, cmon. Hurley is one of us; a total geek. Love the guy. Besides you are probably bummed that he hooked up with the hot record store girl.

I liked this episode as well. Nothing about the food, hatch, electricity, etc. Weird. You would think that this place has electricity but no noticeable generators. Not to mention that they would be looking for a way to use any of the devices to fix the radio.

Radio. The flight attendant had a radio. Did they say it did not work? Then why are they holding on to it?

The others. Looked like they purposely shot at a slower frame rate to speed up the walking or make it look jittery. Interesting. All were barefoot and Caucasian. Is this going to turn out to be a Zombie inhabited island? Hence Ethan not dying. And if Walt was abducted by the fat pirate + crew, he can not be anywhere the others were as the pirates had normal clothes on and were definitely not bare foot. I believe that Walt is somewhere else. These sightings of Walt, wild boars, packs of people (Ethans) are all part of the security system. To keep people away from something.
 
 
buttergun
12:56 / 20.10.05
I think the bedraggled state of the "others" who walked by Jin and Echo (dirty, torn clothes, etc), the fact that one of them was carrying a teddy bear, and that FTLB (Latina wench) claimed she and her fellow survivors have "trust issues" makes it pretty clear that the "tail-enders'" version of "the others" are in fact fellow tail-enders who've gone insane, like Rouseau's companions went insane when she crashed on the island. So I think once again, there are two sets of others -- the real ones, who have Walt's kid, and a savage batch of former survivors who've gone nuts.

You know, one thing that infuriates me about Lost is that so many mysteries would be solved if the characters just acted like real people and asked and answered questions. Like with Sun and Jack, when she noticed he wasn't wearing a ring. "It's rolling around in my sock drawer back home," Jack said. Of course all Sun did in response was gape without understanding. Couldn't she just've freaking asked: "Well, did you get a divorce or what, Jack?? Inquiring minds want to know." And you can't say it's because the survivors want to respect each others' privacy. These people have been stuck on an island for over a month. I don't think, in real life, there'd be too many unanswered questions about each other -- and I certainly don't think there'd still be any sexual tension between Jack and Kate.

Finally, Mister Echo might just be the coolest motherfucker ever to appear on this show.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
13:15 / 20.10.05
Eko is definitely the best thing to happen to this show in a very long time.

I honestly wasn't infected by the filler vibe at all. I loved the Jin and Sun flashbacks last year, and was quite enthused with the way they did both in one episode. Not to mention that this was flat out the best looking episode of the season. WSHDTV in FULL effect. We finally got a crapload more wide jungle shots and I'll have to rewatch because I can't remember if they used my favorite Jungle Exploration Theme.

Also? Jin fucking rules. Loyal, sardonic ("Fish." FUCK YES, GIRLFIGHTA), loyal. TNS (Takes No Shit). He's just the best, which is why I quite enjoyed the brief fight he had with Eko Memoria (which is what I'm calling him now). Exo hardly flinches and turns it right into a headbutt. Flashes of Lono? Yeah, I think I'm going to make every reference to Eko somehow connect to 100 Bullets this season.

Enjoy!
 
  

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