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Uatu.is.watching

18:17 / 06.10.05

Are the Others the scientists from the Hanso Foundation?

Keith, like a scientist

18:22 / 06.10.05

Edward Mekka: That is Chad's theory and comments. I was quoting him. Just don't want to have compliments misplaced...

18:28 / 06.10.05

Where did Walt's mother go to school for her law degree?

18:41 / 06.10.05

Keith - thanks for the kind words and all. The theory's not complete ... If Hanso managed to build an electro-magnetic time-cracker, the temporal echo would have to occur backwards...

But if Hanso was using polar bears for research, that would explain their presence outside of Scarlet Walt's powers. Weird things still exist: the numbers "bad luck", Locke walking, Ethan Rom killing Steve/Scott from the sea.. Regarding Black Rock: I don't know much about the European colonisation of Oceania... Would English-speaking explorers of that ship-type exist in the deep South Pacific?

Math is for suckers!

19:34 / 06.10.05

Does anyone else feel like Locke's dad may be the real Sawyer, the one our Sawyer has been looking for. The thought just occured last night with the "you think you're the only one who's ever been conned?" line. There isn't really any other evidence that I can think of, but its a possibility maybe. Also, could anyone get the hidden Dharma Initiative linke to work on the Hanso Foundation page? Its in the active projects, underneath the remote viewing link.

Keith, like a scientist

20:27 / 06.10.05

Chad, does it really have to occur backwards for things to work? Couldn't the "incident" be the aforementioned event in which Hanso/Dharma scientists crack the time-space barrier, sucking in events out of sequence and location.

The computer and code system is somehow keeping this from blowing wide open and obilerating our entire time and space, thereby saving the world.

Hrm...possibly.

20:31 / 06.10.05

javascript:void(0) basically means it does nothing. For now.

21:22 / 06.10.05

Chad, does it really have to occur backwards for things to work?

I suppose not, but for me, building a reality where Hurley's "bad numbers luck" work the way it does would have to affect everything -past and future events. I'm mostly trying to reconcile the presence of Black Rock, and the African smuggler plane. Both could be manifestations something like Scarlet Walt, but I sit and wait.

06:53 / 07.10.05

LANGUAGE TEACHER HAT/ It is highly likely that Jin will start speaking English during this season. They've been on the island for about 45 days, he's been surrounded by English-speakers, especially since his break with Sun, it's inevitable that he would have begun to learn some English words and phrases. Depending on his ability he could really start communicating in English 3-6 months from the plane crash.

Oh, I've seen beginners who seem to actively try to avoid learning English, but they were usually surrounded by other speakers of their native language, and weren't stranded on an island where their survival may well depend on being able to adequately learn English. I've seen some students go from being total beginners to advanced-level speakers in 9 months ~(but that was unusual - an incredibly motivated guy).

So it is totally possible that by the end of this season, Jin will be regularly speaking English to his fellow castaways.

I must admit, when he shouted 'Others!' at the end of the last episode I felt as if he were my lost beginner student. 'This way, Jin! We'll go over the verb 'to be' for a start!'

/LANGUAGE TEACHER HAT

13:24 / 07.10.05

DHARMA INITIATIVE VIDEO

Station 3 - The Swan

So apparently the island itself is a modular underground science-city with, possibly, 8 seperate facilities existing on the island.

Station 3, "The Swan" was designed, specifically, to monitor and experiment with the unique electro-magnetic fields existing on that part of the island when the "incident" occured.

Meteorology (like the rain starting at specific times?), Psychology (the Lostaways vs. the Castaways?), Parapsychology (Walt's powers?), Zoology (the bears! the bears!) and Electro-magnetism (everything else!)

Qs: What's the mythological meaning of the swan?

13:26 / 07.10.05

And it looks like Desmond and his unknown partner were only supposed to be down there 1.5 years...

13:40 / 07.10.05

LANGUAGE TEACHER HAT/ It is highly likely that Jin will start speaking English during this season. They've been on the island for about 45 days, he's been surrounded by English-speakers, especially since his break with Sun, it's inevitable that he would have begun to learn some English words and phrases. Depending on his ability he could really start communicating in English 3-6 months from the plane crash.

I take it you haven't seen next week's preview, then.

14:51 / 07.10.05

Qs: What's the mythological meaning of the swan?

A rather recent thread in Temple, too. Strange...

16:20 / 07.10.05

Did anybody notice Desmond's copy of The Third Policeman?

Keith, like a scientist

20:40 / 07.10.05

very small thing, but a potential clue nonetheless. On the Hanso Foundation webpage linked in posts above, if you click the active projects links, you get an Access Denied message. At the end it says "Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck."

Not knowing anything about Yoga, I looked the word up on a whim and came up with this:

The gesture Namaste represents the belief that there is a Divine spark within each of us that is located in the heart chakra. The gesture is an acknowledgment of the soul in one by the soul in another. "Nama" means bow, "as" means I, and "te" means you. Therefore, Namaste literally means "bow me you" or "I bow to you."

10:05 / 08.10.05

Are the Others the scientists from the Hanso Foundation?

Oooh, shit. So... maybe... Ethan was Desmond's partner in the quarantined facility. Ethan gets infected with Le Sickness (gaining Captain America level strength and durability) so Des kicks his ass out - or Ethan "escapes" willingly to the glory of the infected island.

Perhaps the original D.I. project scientists are infected too giving them and Ethan a shared goal of which Turniphead and Walt are somehow linked - becoming [foreboding french voice] The Others(/!]

Perhaps the whispers of The Others is an ability one of the scientist Others have - linked to the fruit of the Remote Viewing/Parapsychology research.

Ethan gets super-strength, the other scientist Others get different abilities (links to the producers love for supers stuff).

Shit, Locke's probably been infected. When he gives Sayid the dodgy compass Sayid asks him how he's going to find his way around, Locke simple says "I don't need it any more", he's clearly being assimilated more and more by the island. Perhaps the n-n-n-nanomachines that fixed his legs have given him some kind of polar/magnet-sense?

Phew.

13:39 / 10.10.05

It's funny...the networks are trying to cash in on the Lost craze with various other "supernatural"-type shows, such as Invasion and Surface, and they all suck. What some TV executive SHOULD do is scour the web for all of these half-baked Lost "theories" people have been coming up with since the show began (of which none have turned out to be accurate), and make a show out of THEM.

Web-savy executive: "Listen guys, I've got a GREAT idea. These people find themselves on an island, right, and TIME IS RUNNING BACKWARDS!!!!"

Other executives, in unison: "Genius!"

14:35 / 10.10.05

Snide?

15:13 / 10.10.05

Buttergun, I actually think that's a great idea and I've often thought about that after reading Angel or Seven Soldiers posts here. Some of the theories are usually cooler than the outcome.

19:06 / 10.10.05

BTW, is anyone else slightly disappointed the Others turned out to be some fat, pirate guy and his three mates?

19:10 / 10.10.05

No offense to pirate-kind, of course.

19:23 / 10.10.05

I will say, though, that I really like how far Sawyer's inclusion on the Raft has gone into humanising him. That he's on a first name basis (rather than using emotionally distancing nicknames) with Jin, Walt and Michael is great. He's still a dick but he's come a long way since episode 1 (whereas it feels Jack is going in the opposite direction sometimes).

Edward Mekka hates graphix

19:04 / 12.10.05

This may have surfaced before, but has anyone discussed what the injection was for? Someone spoke of Ethan's supernatural strength. Injections?

Is it possible that when Desmond was working out and had this "shake" for breakfast, was he then to inject himself with supernatural strength to keep him alive?

We keep hearing that he was in this world wide race. Perhaps he got involved because he was a super athlete or something. Just a thought.

01:05 / 13.10.05

42- Lostaways

23 Tailaways > 4 total?
Bernard, Libby, Anna, and Adebisi

Looks like the entire island, as expected, is really one big complex.

01:12 / 13.10.05

The opening sequence for this week's episode was awesome.

Have a Cluckity-Cluck-Cluck day.

06:26 / 13.10.05

Someone spoke of Ethan's supernatural strength. Injections?

Possible super-strength. Ethan was deliberately stated to be physically superior to Jack (who's a bit super-soldiery himself) but it's also likely he's just as hard as fuck.

I think the injections, along with the number sequence and the Quarantine warning on the inside of the hatch, are all part of The Swan's psychological experiment.

12:46 / 13.10.05

Yeah, I think the injections were just innoculations or vitamins or even a mind-fuck placebo.

I don't think Ethan and Desmond ever met.

12:47 / 13.10.05

I officially hate this new bitch, Ana-Lucia. When Sawyer promised he'd kill her if she hit him again, I could only hold my breath in anticipation. But then I remembered that on Lost, people have a very slim chance of dying -- despite producer Abrams' promise at the beginning of Season 1 that "more people will die on this show than any other."

Anyway, back to my hatred of Ana (though I'll probably always call her "Faux-Tough Latina Bitch"...FTLB for short). Maybe it's that I don't like the actress. She always plays the same role. And on top of that, she's not even a GOOD actress -- she always has the same loathsome expression on her face. It was laughable when she was "laying down the rules" for Sawyer. What makes it all the worse is that it's very obvious this woman has been introduced to the show so Sawyer can have a gal-pal, now that it's been clarified that he and Kate will never be an item.

As for last night's episode, I loved it that Randy (Locke's boss in "Walkabout") was Hurley's boss at one time. This seems to verify the fan rumor that one of the many companies Hurley eventually owned was the box company Locke worked for...meaning Hurley got even more revenge by being Randy's boss (or more likely, Randy's boss's boss's boss).

15:06 / 13.10.05

Also, I was impressed that Walt appeared on the side of the milk carton that Hurley drank in his dream. And also that Rose was later humming the song Hurley played in that very same dream. Does this mean that psychic activity is rampant on the island? Does it somehow awaken psychic abilities in people?

Keith, like a scientist

15:14 / 13.10.05

Rose certainly seems to have some sort of psychic thing with her husband aka OMG HER HUSBAND IS WHITE SHOCKER.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

15:17 / 13.10.05

I don't mind FTLB. For some reason I'm still quite enamored by the way she said "Coming out," when Triple A pulled her out of the pit. That was just so guerilla or something. I don't know. I still dig her.

But leave it to ol' Hurley Claus to bring out the sap in me. I don't know why I should feel pity for a megamillionaire but damn I felt bad for him. I flat out loved the Record Store scene, just because it was the realest thing that's been on this show for months. That's the kind of thing I thrive on seeing on this show. And, YAY, Mike Show's girlfriend from Wet Hot American Summer. Now let's just get Paul Rudd on for The Hold Steady flashback episode, have Hurley do some training with Chris Meloni...

Just me?

15:35 / 13.10.05

Benjamin, I haven't seen Wet Hot American Summer, but are you referring to that gorgeous girl Hurley asked out in the record store? My God, I fell in love with her! Thought she was one of the best-looking actresses to appear on this show, though I admit I'm probably only saying that because the character herself seemed so great.

I can say right now, despite my current hatred, that FTLB will most likely grow on me, too. It looks like it's being set up that she's only acting this way due to the grim reality she currently faces -- in fact, she was actually likeable in her first appearance, last season (though I still gritted my teeth when I saw her, due to my recent viewing of SWAT). I'm sure we'll see she's had some tough childhood/background deal in her no-doubt-forthcoming flashback episode, and that beneath the hard surface she has a heart of gold.

BTW, is it not apparent how inessential Boone was to this show? I kinda feel bad for the actor who played him. But this whole season, not once have I felt a missing presence among the main cast. Though the guy never really did have a chance -- rewatched Season 1 on DVD, and even when he WAS around, he wasn't bringing much to the table. In fact I always got the impression they kept him around so Abrams could finally realize his earlier promise and actually, you know, kill someone -- and what's unusual, especially for an Abrams production, is that Boone really does seem to be dead (ie, no sudden resuscitation or revelation of never having died, like Sloane and Sydney's mother in Alias).

Keith, like a scientist

16:41 / 13.10.05

that reminds me of the early quote from the producers about how (paraphrase) "with this large of a cast, you never know what will happen to any of them. a main character could walk into the forest and never come back."

that had me so excited. but nothing like that has happened yet. still same old people.

23:34 / 13.10.05

The tail section folks, alright, so there were 23. Now they have a handfull? What happened? Are we talking canibalism here?

The Tailaways mention Them. I'm willing to bet that the Tailaways' Them are the Lostaways' Others. And I'll bet that the Tailaways have had a "hard go" while the Lostaways pretty much only had to deal with Ethan.

"Ethan, Locke said he came in from the water..." Water > Boat > Pirates > Others!

Now, why only one of the Others found the Lostaways? Perhaps the proximity of the Dinosaur Security System has effectively protected the Lostaways from the Others.

And The Sickness? I'd be willing to put it down to the psychology experiment of The Swan - only Danielle found about it 15 years earlier.

00:37 / 14.10.05

My first thought for the dwindled number of the Tailaways was cannibalism, too.

I have to admit I thought this was a pretty poor episode. Very little in the way of significant character development or plot advancement - it just felt like filler. Bleh.

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