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CameronStewart
04:32 / 30.09.05
>>>"Whoa! Sun knows English! I bet Jin does too!"<<<

Ha! That crossed my mind so many times.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
15:06 / 30.09.05
Whoa.

Response from one Lost writer to David Fury's Rolling Stone slammage turns into the most revealing stuff about the show and its creative process I've ever read. Warning, spoilers about the first two episodes if you haven't seen them.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
15:33 / 30.09.05
damn, that was intense. thanks for the link up. makes me more hopeful they know what's going on.

love that he describes the island as a "crucible" - the key is that concept somewhere.
 
 
iamus
19:07 / 01.10.05
Yeeek!

I tried my best to watch this on E4, but the ad-breaks were doing my head in. I have just powered through the entire first season and I'm about to start the second.

I can't say enough good things about this show.
 
 
Bear
19:48 / 01.10.05
I'm quite tempted to do the same with this series. I can't handle the one week wait so I'm thinking about downloading the whole series and watching them all over the weekend. But I love reading this thread too much.
 
 
iamus
01:33 / 03.10.05
So we have Desmond linked to the repair of two spines here, Locke and Jack's ex. I'm thinking that for many reasons, the mooted nanotech idea is very credible.


I don't think anybody has mentioned that the octagon is actually called the Ba Gua. The trigrams around the outside represent different aspects and areas of life (relationships, career etc...), the centre traditionally holds the Yin Yang which represents the balance of the other aspects. It is the part of the Ba Gua that is in contact with all the other trigrams, and as such, its influence extends out into all of them. Its element is earth.

There's a temple thread on it here.
 
 
iamus
02:14 / 03.10.05
I'm not usually one ofr projection and speculation, but this show is pretty much set up for that precise reason....

Desmond was in the hospital room that Jack's ex/future-wife was in. He was the one that healed her spine. That's why she could smell BO, even though Jack had showered.
 
 
Quimper
23:12 / 03.10.05
Tis funny that the 8 sides of the Ba Gua are quite applicable to our survivors...

(from the top side clockwise)

Fame = Charlie ("Ever hear of Driveshaft?")
Marriage = Jin & Sun
Children = Claire
Helpful People = Sayid & Shannon (they clicked when she helped him translate, and now he is serving as her support)
Career = Jack
Knowledge = Locke
Family = Michael & Walt
Wealth = Hurley

Sorry, Kate and Sawyer.
 
 
gridley
01:40 / 04.10.05
Maybe Kate and Sawyer are the yin and the yang....
 
 
Tim Tempest
14:27 / 05.10.05
Ok, I made a map of the island as of Season 2 Episode 2. I want to get it up before Episode 3 tonight...so does anyone want to host my image?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:35 / 05.10.05
PM me. I'll host it.
 
 
Triplets
17:26 / 05.10.05
Oddman, there's easier ways to get personal details off someone. Maybe you should start a thread in the Conversation asking for peoples- oh wait
 
 
Tim Tempest
17:44 / 05.10.05
Dammit Gorbachev! You figured me out so fast. You ruin everything, just like that time when you made attempts at reform which then led to the end of the Cold War, but also caused the end of the political supremacy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the eventual dissolution of the entire amalgamation of the various countries within said union.

You bastard.
 
 
Tim Tempest
23:50 / 05.10.05
Hey guys. This is my map of 'Lost'. The only people I didn't mention are the 'mysterious' people like Rosseau, The Others, Walt, and The Big Monster...because I really don't know where they are.

The Black smoke causing the crash and the lengthy amount of underground tunnel leading from the Hatch are both theories of mine.

Besides that, it should be taken as 100% accurate. I think.

Kudos to Keith Hypnopompia for hosting my posting.

I now present the map to you all. It is up to date as of the ending of Episode 2, Season 2.

 
 
Triplets
23:55 / 05.10.05
lmao
 
 
Panic
00:03 / 06.10.05
OK, "Hot Hot Evangeline Lily" is so the first single from my new album.

Where's the Drug Plane at?
 
 
Tim Tempest
00:05 / 06.10.05
Where's the drug plane?

It's hidden under the chalk outline of the bear.
 
 
Aertho
01:02 / 06.10.05
Oddman has to be the most sophisticated jokesuit evar.
 
 
Tim Tempest
03:32 / 06.10.05
When the Dharma orientation film started up.....Well, let's just say I've never been so pumped to watch educational footage.

And to whoever identified the Dharma symbol first: Good work.

As for the countdown-timer, I think Jack was right, and it is just a part of the experiment. The time will run out, but I bet that it won't happen until either the Season Finale, or that break alot of shows take in November, leaving cliffhangers that won't be resolved until 'Spring Sweeps'.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
09:56 / 06.10.05
I love how everyone on Earth is pretty much disappointed that Jack hit execute. I know I was. But, DUH.

Love how it instantly changed the dynamic of the show, like irrevocably, with one push of the button. Leave it to a Locke-centric episode to turn those ugly duckling Season 2 Flashbacks into beautiful swans.

Speaking of which, now we know why the Shark logo looked different. Better edit that map with five more stations!

And I assume you all saw this?

"Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute"? Best retcon for an aging adolescent actor EVAR.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
12:20 / 06.10.05
I'm pretty much annoyed with everything Jack says or does this season so far. He used to be my favorite character, too. His particular blocks are getting to be a bit tiresome.

But it's interesting to hear that everyone seems disappointed about him and the Button. Makes me feel better, actually, as if that's what they intended.

The preview for next week? Oh wait:


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The "Secret food stash" plot looks to be kind of silly and annoying, as well. BUT: WTF is with Jin speaking english?!?!?
 
 
gridley
12:37 / 06.10.05
I'm now wondering if Jin is an undercover agent who was assigned to seduce and marry Sun so that he could infiltrate the Korean mafia. And he's been keeping up the act so far in hopes of them being rescued.

And I'm assuming that the orientation film contained hypnotic suggestions, which Locke got a dose of from watching it twice.

I wonder what happened to the other survivors after the crash that's turned them so aggressive and paranoid?
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
13:02 / 06.10.05
I think that Jin stuff is total bullshit nicked from an Electronic Press Kit. We'll see though, as there is a Sun-Centric episode in the pipe (next week is Hurles).
 
 
gridley
13:21 / 06.10.05
Electronic press kit? Huh?

Oh, and was anyone else thinking of Solaris when Desmond said his predecessor was named Kelvin?
 
 
Tim Tempest
13:27 / 06.10.05
Alright, lets take a look back in Oddman's Time Telescope, (Patent Pending) and recall when Desmond first met Locke. He inquired as to whether or not Locke was "him".

So who was Desmond expecting? He had a password-slogan worked out and everything.
 
 
Tim Tempest
13:53 / 06.10.05
Oddman has to be the most sophisticated jokesuit evar.

Thank you very much, Chad. I appreciate a compliment such as that. I hold your opinion in high esteem.
 
 
buttergun
13:55 / 06.10.05
I figure Desmond thought Locke was the representative from the company, finally there to take over duties at "the station."

Last night's episode was so-so. That initiation film just kept going and going, and other than most likely rekindling interest in BF Skinner among the easily-swayed, it didn't do much. One thing that drives me nuts about this show is that things are left "mysterious" past the point of absurdity. Like, why couldn't the company rep explain to the candidates watching the film WHAT the "disturbance" was? Only one reason -- so we the viewers would be left wondering.

I wasn't surprised Jack pressed the button. I AM surprised so many people are upset about it. From the beginning it's seemed that Jack's character arc is destined to take him from a man who believes in nothing (including himself, thanks to Pop) to a man who believes, period. A "leap of faith."

But what really drove me nuts last night was the "tough Latina." From the beginning I've had a problem with this actress. And when she knocked Sawyer down with one punch? Probably one of the most unrealistic moments in this show. Do you know how hard it is to punch someone in the face? The movies make it look simple, but it's something not everyone can do. Especially when the puncher is a maybe 110-pound woman, and the punchee is a guy of Sawyer's size and weight. And she did it twice!! Stupid. I do like how "the Others" are apparently other survivors of the flight -- sounds like the huge black dude had an Australian accent. This of course leaves the mystery of who the REAL Others are.

Finally, who else thinks Meg from Married with Children looks better now than she did 20 years ago? Maybe I just have a soft spot for her because she provided the voice of Lela on Futurama.
 
 
X-Himy
14:45 / 06.10.05
Not that I think punching someone in the face and knocking them down/out in one is easy (it ain't), but in defense of the show, Sawyer had been shot and suffering from blood loss, exhaustion, and other fatigues. I think the Others are a separate entity from the second survivors, because the Others had a motorboat, with fuel. These people are working with spears. The savagery could be an indication that they lack certain amenities, such as a doctor, Locke's knives, or Hurley's golf course.
 
 
gridley
15:07 / 06.10.05
Yeah, given that the other tribe of survivors is armed with primitive weapons and even has prison pit already built, I have no problem with the tough latina taking Sawyer out with one punch. Clearly, they've been doing some serious battling against somebody for the past five weeks.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:38 / 06.10.05
I think this post by Chad bears repeating at this point in the game, given the Hanso Foundation stuff, especially reviewing that site that Benjamin posted:

My theory here is that at one point in the future, a ship or facility made by humans will crack timespace, and drag reality-altering properties out of that crack and unto the world. Kind of like God getting trapped inside hir own creation. The numbers of the ship are universal constants and code probably associated the cracking process. Walt isn't brought to the island becasue off his ability, his ability is his because he will go to the island one day. Cause and effect go backward. I anticipate that he knows things he ought not to, like time isn't structured quite as linearly as the rest.

Also, consider the clues: The polar bears are wrought from a Green Lantern(imagination by willpower) comic. "A Wrinkle in Time" is the book Sawyer will read to Claire's baby to keep it content. Black and White stones, gamepieces. Magic Mirror and Anti-Mirror. Inside and Outside, backward and forward.

This is some heavy shit for ABC. So I don't think I'm absolutely right.


Chad, I think you are probably exactly right. The "incident" that the orientation film referred to was possibly your "cracking timespace" event.

I couldn't quite get behind the theory originally, but I'm liking it more now.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:39 / 06.10.05
also, the bits about saving the world. The countdown and code are something that is regulating the "crack" somehow.
 
 
Triplets
16:54 / 06.10.05
This thing is starting to heat up. I guess the other survivors - the Tailaways? - have been repeatedly fending off the Others for weeks (perhaps they landed right in Other territory?). Or The Security Monster.

So we have several groups, I submit them here for reference.

The Lostaways (from the front section)
... which could be further split into the Jackaways and the Lockeaways very, very soon.

The Tailaways (from the rear)

The Others (some form of pirate crew? Descendants from the Black Rock?)

Independants:

Ethan Rom (I think he's independant because he wanted Turnip Head, not Walt)
Danielle Rousseau
Desmond
 
 
Edward Mekka hates graphix
17:12 / 06.10.05
From Keith : "This is some heavy shit for ABC. So I don't think I'm absolutely right."

Agreed, but I think that what ABC sees is a bunch of normals getting into the strange. That sells. J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof have to appease the big wigs at ABC to 'make a cool series for our viewers, dudes.' But then use their mad skills to create something greater that it appears.

As for your theory, super neato. Can't wait to see what Jin decides to say in English.
 
 
gridley
17:54 / 06.10.05
Is the woman in Desmond's photo really Jack's wife....



Similar, certainly, but I don't know...
 
 
Aertho
18:08 / 06.10.05
What's that city?
 
  

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