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FinderWolf
16:58 / 01.12.05
I would also point out that many of the articles and that have been cut & pasted by myself and others here are actual news (mostly casting or anecdotes a la Stan Lee's filming of his cameo, other tidbits) about the film; not all of them are rumors.

And come on, 6 pages of threads before a movie comes out is half the fun here on Barbelith! Look at the Harry Potter threads, the Batman Begins thread, the Spider-Man 3 thread...they're just as filled with silliness, news, casting, rumors, speculation, fun or ridiculous conversations as this thread. And they didn't have 'rumors/pre-production' in their topic abstracts.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:01 / 01.12.05
I think the broader issue is that these threads start long before the films are released, so that once the film is released people wanting to talk about it have either to wade through or ignore all the pre-release speculation.

Now, what we could do is lock these threads when the verdamnpt thing actually comes out and start a shiny new thread, which will also have spoilers. This will make of the previous thread a play space before the actual film comes along and ruins all the fun.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:02 / 01.12.05
>> I need that photo [Stan Lee giving the viewer the finger, from above] on a t-shirt, with the caption "Excelsior, Bitches!"

Make it so...I would love to see this t-shirt on sale online somewhere.
 
 
Hieronymus
17:03 / 01.12.05
Any worth that Finola Hughes had as the White Queen was completely drawn into the void of suck that was Jeremy Ratchford's shitty, shitty faux Scottish accent.

Not even light could escape it, Haus.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:04 / 01.12.05
Sounds like a viable option & a good idea re: the threads. Although part of me loves the fact that when Batman Begins came out, the thread was already something like 9 pages long, but I'd be very happy with the fresh clean thread upon debut option as well.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:05 / 01.12.05
now I'm wondering if I should find/download and watch this infamous Gen. X pilot. I don't think it was ever aired, right?
 
 
Hieronymus
17:16 / 01.12.05
I don't think it was ever aired, right?

It aired just the one time in an effort to fish for series potential. I used to have it on VHS somewhere but probably recorded an X-Files episode over it as it was really pretty horrible. I think one of the big reasons I actively sought to watch it when the ads started for it was because Matt Frewer was part of the cast. That and idle curiosity to see what Marvel was chunking out for live action portrayals at the time.

As for the thread, honestly I'm very tired of hearing the Petey whines. We've got thread after thread of pre-movie speculation, as FinderWolf eloquently pointed out. It's fun, it's harmless and it acts a kind of spoiler buffer in the first place. There's no sense in whipping up another thread simply because someone is grumpy about all the fanwanking going on.
 
 
thirty/thirty
05:23 / 02.12.05
And it was all going so well until…

(The studious observer may question the importance of Finnola Hughes to this thread.

Importance? No there is no need for importance or relevance. No need at all. She played the White Queen once and now someone else is playing her. We talked about it.

The studious observer is looking for FORKS IN EYES. IN a thread made up primarily of quotes from rumour sites and observations that a) the actor playing Fat Albert is fat and b) the actress playing Monet looks like a turd, Finnola Hughes may be out last, best chance.)

a) The actor playing Fat Albert is actually very fat indeed.
b) For a girl playing a mutant whose powers is physical perfection this girl does look like a turd. I was just pointing out their horrendous choice of casting.

I think earlier on there was a post that mentioned the third X-Men film, but I'm not sure?

Um, yes Benny if you just scroll up a tad you'll find that post and if scroll down a bit you find a nice UPDATE from Finderwolf about the trailer. Are you acting the fool, Benny?

Many of the posts on this thread aren't even that. Chikatilo's posts, for example, seem to be devoted to extensively mocking a finished movie that he has written, produced and directed in his head

Speculating on what will be contained in the third film, is all. My head unfortunetaly doesn't have the budget nor the resources to finance a movie of this scale...my head usually sticks to producing small, thought-provoking, indie films starring Parker Posey and/or Samantha Morton, mostly.

The trailer will likely give at least a glimpse at new-to-the-movies characters such as Beast (Kelsey Grammer), Juggernaut (Vinnie Jones) and Angel (Ben Foster).

Yes, it will feature a scene with the Juggernaut jumping over the Grand Canyon.

I would also point out that many of the articles and that have been cut & pasted by myself and others here are actual news (mostly casting or anecdotes a la Stan Lee's filming of his cameo, other tidbits) about the film; not all of them are rumors

Everything I have posted about the casting of actors or the fatness of Kenan Thompson’s hand has been true, I assure you.

It's fun, it's harmless and it acts a kind of spoiler buffer in the first place.

There is no room for harmless fun. What does fun have to do with anything, anyway? Let’s get back on topic please.

There's no sense in whipping up another thread simply because someone is grumpy about all the fanwanking going on.

Oh mind you, that someone is always grumpy.

now I'm wondering if I should find/download and watch this infamous Gen. X pilot. I don't think it was ever aired, right?

If you intend on buying it off Amazon be sure to not confuse it with this one.



Akwardness will ensure if you do.
 
 
Hieronymus
05:41 / 02.12.05
Annnnnnnd just in the nick of time... comes new info on the movie. Or rather the teaser trailer set to be released online on Dec. 5th.

For those who can't wait until Monday, click here for a description of the trailer.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
07:05 / 02.12.05
Jeremy Ratchford's shitty, shitty faux Scottish accent.

IIRC, playing Banshee, his accent was faux Irish, with a 'Top o' the morning t'ye!' forced jocularity.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:41 / 02.12.05
I loved that accent. I loved the way it sets out its stall early.

Hello, children. This is my accent. Sometimes it will sound Welsh, at other times as if I am having a stroke. You understand? I'm not locked into this accent with you. You're locked into this accent with me.

Incidentally, if Chikatilo has posted a picture of a porn vid above could somebody edit it, please?
 
 
The Falcon
14:37 / 02.12.05
It's not porn, it's wrasslin'. Easy mistake to make.

Anyway - Now, what we could do is lock these threads when the verdamnpt thing actually comes out and start a shiny new thread, which will also have spoilers. This will make of the previous thread a play space before the actual film comes along and ruins all the fun.

I think, notwithstanding the attempt to compact three languages into what would've been a perfectly good 'verdammt', this is a perfectly good idea for my purposes. A pre-hype thread for me to ignore, and then one when the actual films come out to read & contribute to if I watch the thing.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:31 / 02.12.05
And yet, oddly enough, people are still going to think of me as somebody who randomly points out people's grammar and spelling mistakes without provocation. Odd, innit?
 
 
The Falcon
17:11 / 02.12.05
It's a mean ole world. I was going to barbequote the accent bit in the interests of balance, but I never.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:42 / 02.12.05
With images turned on... I'm sure Chynna is larger than that. Something very wrong is going on. Possibly involving mutation.
 
 
Hieronymus
06:23 / 05.12.05
Well the trailer will be out today but USA Today has pre-empted it with pictures of X3's Beast and Angel.

Try to keep the snickers to a minimum.
 
 
This Sunday
08:56 / 05.12.05
Am I alone in thinking Angel should look exceptionally the prettyboy? Lithe and gorgeous and somewhat vacant? As opposed to what we're apparently getting? And the X-movies have, like, a 'no fur' rule, don't they? Or an 'as little fur as possible' rule, anyway. First Nightcrawler and now this. Blue fur, dammit, we need more blue velvet flesh in cinema.
This concludes my fatbeardiness for the hour.
On Storm's new hair: I approve.
Does this movie have a plot, yet? Or is this going to be a ninety-minute catch-up documentary covering X-history of the last forty years? With a special appearance by Christopher Walken as one of the Starjammers... and not the one you think!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:53 / 05.12.05
Does this movie have a plot, yet?

I imagine it does, but that very few people know what it is yet, because the film has not yet been screened. Do you see?
 
 
This Sunday
10:32 / 05.12.05
It would be a lot easier to get excited if we knew even vaguely what was happening, is all, y'know, instead of just namechecking the walk-ons. I'm not saying a whole detailed outline is necessary... and Stan Lee dancing around the Jean Grey return was nice, but... something.
Of course, I'm pre-sold on the movie and will see it, eventually, regardless. So, really, they have no reason to cater to me. I'm wondering about the mass audience that aren't excited to hear that Reyes/Rao or M are going to be appearing. There is a non-X-reading audience for these things, I'm presuming. In order to turn a profit, there'd have to be.
Then again, it's a sequal and no sequal has ever had to have a plot or any other reason for existing except the existence of the first film.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:03 / 05.12.05
How right you are. No sequel has ever had a plot. Well done.

It would be a lot easier to get excited if we knew even vaguely what was happening, is all, y'know, instead of just namechecking the walk-ons. I'm not saying a whole detailed outline is necessary... and Stan Lee dancing around the Jean Grey return was nice, but... something.

The problem is not the lack of information that is currently available. The problem is the expectation that 'fans' now have that they should know so much about a film before it is released that there is barely any point in seeing it. The "mass audience that aren't excited to hear that Reyes/Rao or M are going to be appearing" have the good sense not to want to have seen or otherwise learnt about any more of the film than a trailer and a few promotional interviews, short clips and reviews would tell them.
 
 
matthew.
11:57 / 05.12.05


Oh my.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
13:25 / 05.12.05
hahahahha

well, all in all Beast and Angel are ok. Grammer looks just like GM/FQ's version of Hank McCoy [jacket included], except for the cat face. maybe later in the movie he suffers an 'upgrade'.

the blue fur in his arm looks a bit fake, as do Angel's wings in the second pic. but it's alright. and this sums up what I suppose this will be: just "alright"...

as for the plot, I remember they didn't even had a script when the English guy was brought to direct, but I read somewhere it has more or less to do with scientists/government forcing mutants to a treatment [created by the character the terrorist lady from '24' is playing] to cure themselves.

if Ratner can play it like Christian religions claiming to "cure" homossexuals etc they may be on to something.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:37 / 05.12.05
The Beast doesn't look that bad, actually - it's only 1 photo so of course hard to tell. But I didn't immediately think 'awful!' Angel's wings look cool.

Curious to see the trailer...
 
 
Aertho
13:46 / 05.12.05
if Ratner can play it like Christian religions claiming to "cure" homossexuals etc they may be on to something.

That jives if Magneto is played as the gayest mutant ever.

 
 
doyoufeelloved
18:23 / 05.12.05
That jives if Magneto is played as the gayest mutant ever.

"We love what you've done with your hair."

Mission accomplished, dude.
 
 
This Sunday
22:32 / 05.12.05
(a) I'm not saying/writing that all sequals must have no plot, but simply that having a good plot or even being a good idea in an aesthetic/having-something-to-say manner, has ever been necessary to spawn a sequal to another film. All that is required is that the sequal might be successful. An actual point is, if anything, an added bonus.
(b) There's a big difference between knowing everything that's going to happen in a movie and simply being given a basic plot as part of the advertising. Most films, that's the first thing you know, is the plot. It might be something as simple as 'X stars in a romance about a jewel thief and a monkey-worshipping ancient priestess zombie' or 'man discovers God through maths and has nervous break down,' but there's something. I realize we're just to the point where a teaser is coming out - and it seems like it's further along than that - but, really, even 'Gigli', 'The End of the Affair' or 'End of Days' tried to sell us a plot early on, successful or not.
I'm just saying, there's got to be an audience - and not just of myself - that would be more enticed by knowing some sort of basic plot, than seeing A REAL LIVE FLESH AND BLOOD HANK McCOY, OH YAY! Isn't there?

But, yeah, it's only up to the teaser stage, and while it feels like it's been going longer than that, maybe there doesn't have to be plot (and that's plot, not detail or scene or development, reveals, but the basic pitch that differentiates this movie from, well, any other) given, yet.
And, really, the incoming director does have a habit of making movies that are lacking, primarily, in the plot area, far as I'm concerned, hence the curiosity that would otherwise be fairly sublimated. I'm not asking if there's a plot to the new Woody Allen or Aronofsky film, because there's precedent.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
22:39 / 05.12.05
TRAILER is up

Hrmm... I quite liked Beast when I saw the still picture earlier today, but seeing more footage of him...I dunno. Something really harsh about him. Of course, I have seen rendition of Beast that look basically EXACTLY like this, so I don't think they can be faulted for inaccuracy.

I can't say I'm not thrilled a bit with the seeming scale of this film.
 
 
Hieronymus
22:45 / 05.12.05
Blink and you might miss Juggernaut.

It's certainly changed my mind a little on Kesley Grammar. He's absolutely unrecognizable in that get-up. I've just always liked Grant's tribute to Cocteau over the 80s and 90s version.

So if X2 was the franchise's Empire Strikes Back, that Robin Magneto and his Merry Men scene totally reminds me of Return of the Jedi.
 
 
FinderWolf
22:59 / 05.12.05
I think Grammer looks great. The trailer looks like it has potential...time will tell.

And it looks like Jean comes back pretty darn quick.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
23:48 / 05.12.05
any other options?

can't run the latest QuickCultTime here...
 
 
Aertho
01:15 / 06.12.05
Jean's taken the Veronica's Closet approach to Hellfire clubwear.
 
 
thirty/thirty
04:47 / 06.12.05
Jean's taken the Veronica's Closet approach to Hellfire clubwear

Yeah and um, is Jean like instantly evil? That damn cosmic entity/universal immune system sure works fast.

Oh and good to see Storm finally airborne after two movies. Just a shame she's only learnt one new trick and she's wearing it through (that spinning thing, she does it like three times and that's just in the trailer).

Dangerroom sequence with Wolverine looking decidedly butch! Joygasm!
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
08:15 / 06.12.05
Trailer looked pretty decent, IMHO. Beast didn't look quite as I'd imagined him; would have to see him bound around before making a decision. Nice looking trailer, but I think that was going to be a given.
 
 
Brigade du jour
08:55 / 06.12.05
Link doesn't work. Little broken page picture comes up. What gives?
 
 
Benny the Ball
10:10 / 06.12.05
Juggernaught is still making me very nervous. Is the Dark Future looking section the danger room? Looks good. A fast ball special is in there also, quite nice. Beast looks good, but a little too much like Beauty and the Beast Beast,
 
  

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