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19:04 / 15.07.04

They start shooting in May, folks, so it's time to begin talking about it!

Apparently, the Danger Room will be in it:

from comics2film.com:

>> (7.11) Guy Dyas, Production Designer, Talks DANGER ROOM For X3

"There was sadness when we had to eliminate our Danger Room sequence. I had just completed a very unique design for it, which was going to allow Bryan to do all sorts of crazy things with the action, stunts and visual effects. A friend of mind had introduced me to Adam Kubert a few months earlier and together we storyboarded this incredible sequence. We were going to be able to watch Wolverine training in the Danger Room and it was going to blow people's minds away in X2! The set was half built and Hugh Jackman was trained and ready to go when production simply ran out of time.

We cover so much ground in X2, and with the DR, we would have ended up with a three and a half hour movie! Now that the film is completed I actually understand why the Danger Room sequence had to be saved for the next film."

Recent news confirms that Halle Berry will only do it if Storm gets a lot more to do, and the studio has said they are looking at X3 as the final film of the franchise, so they might re-cast Storm (since the final film will most likely be about Dark Phoenix, and they also gotta give the people their big helping of Hugh Jackman, story-wise). There was a name mentioned for the re-casting of Storm, but I don't remember the actress' name.

19:12 / 15.07.04

Found that article:

>> Hollywood North Report is reporting that Halle Berry will not be back for the third Westchester-based mutant movie. According to an insider, "Halle was ready to do X-Men 3 , but only if Storm was given more storyline, but the studio sees the third movie as a means to wrap up the trilogy, and that means Storm won't be featured more than Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. Halle has now passed on the third movie because she's not into bit-parts. She's an Oscar winner and she wants roles that test her." Allegedly, producers are now apparently looking to singer and actress Christina Milian as a possible replacement.

Regrettable Juvenilia

19:12 / 15.07.04

Deja vu all over again.

19:36 / 15.07.04

Oops -- I swear on all that's holy I did a search before I started this topic. Honestly I did. Nothing came up. Sometimes the search engine doesn't work very well on Barbelith. (totally serious, I did a search for "X3")

19:37 / 15.07.04

In fact, I just did the same search again and it STILL came up "showing results 1 of 0 : 0"

04:27 / 16.07.04

End of the franchise? Surely there's going to be more than 3.

10:01 / 16.07.04

I had heard when X-Men came out it was planned as a trilogy, like Blade, but I'd be surprised it there weren't spin-offs. A Wolverine movie? A New Mutants movie?

10:43 / 16.07.04

I don't think the Generation X or Mutant X live-actioners were official X-men tie-ins, were they?
And fuck Halle Berry. As I shouted at the pee-views for Gothika, she should STOP RUNNING PEOPLE OVER!

Brigade du jour

00:04 / 17.07.04

Have to agree with Lord Morgue here, they never did Storm justice in the first two movies. How are they going to a crowbar in a bit of personality now? We've grown too accustomed to her being soppy.

On my travels I've been imagining whole scenes of X3 in my head. Beast comes back from some long sojourn abroad, he's one of the original X-Men but left for some mysterious reason. He's all pally with Chuck and even Scott cracks a grin on his best mate's return.

But he and Wolverine get off on the wrong foot.
"Hey bub, there's only room for one hairy acrobat in this super-team."
"But my dear boy, you can't walk on your hands, watch!"
He duly demonstrates.

But then of course, Chuck has to drop the bombshell of Jean's death. Beast is a bit devastated and maybe gets it into his furry head that Wolverine's somehow responsible. He's thinking "Jean was torn between her feelings for these two hunky guys, had a bit of a mad moment and killed herself in an act of supreme selflessness, or maybe just to get away from them bickering over her for five fucking minutes."

Anyway, across the globe Magneto's been collaborating with the Hellfire Club for his own nefarious ends, and pissed them off with his devil-may-care double-cross. But wouldn't you know it, they want revenge!

Thus, we have three super-blocs, Magneto's Brotherhood Mark II (maybe including Juggernaut, but that's probably too much plot and he'll end up characterised as pure animated muscle like Bane in Batman & Robin, doing NO ONE any favours) seeking their usual 'terrorist' goals; the Hellfire Club led by Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost wanting to take out Magneto and the X-Men if they get in the way; Prof X's nackered, demoralised charges struggling just to cope with grief and rebuild their house, never mind save the world again. But finally they win the day, possibly involving some training in the Danger Room first this time?

And there you go, Stan's your uncle, X-trilogy duly concludes.

Brigade du jour

00:04 / 17.07.04

Oh bollocks I forgot Phoenix!

00:18 / 17.07.04

Beast would be nice, but I'd rather they focus on the X-Men they've got already. Give us more Nightcrawler, get rid of Storm completely, throw in the Danger Room and maybe a Sentinel. Yeah, just one, have it being a built-up threat until it's unleashed on Dark Phoenix and destroyed, or somesuch. Then have them beat her with the power of love when she tries to fry the planet to a... Wait, Joss Whedon already did that. Pfah.

Tryphena Absent

01:19 / 17.07.04

I'd like to get rid of Storm, she just gets tearful and calls wind, how is that worth a storyline? I'd like to get rid of Halle Berry... with chains.

03:24 / 17.07.04

"Do you know what happens to a diva when she's hit by budgeting? The same as everything else."
FLUSHHHHH!

Brigade du jour

17:41 / 17.07.04

LOL, nice one!

15:25 / 19.07.04

Well it certainly looks like it's going to be a while before Singer picks up the X-Men baton again.

17:24 / 19.07.04

So I guess the next question is, who would you like to see direct X3? I have to think about this. Is Del Toro busy?

20:23 / 19.07.04

Is Del Toro busy?

I certainly hope he is.

I'm gonna miss Singer on this franchise. He brought a lot of solid sci-fi enjoyment to it that some directors can either carry well or utterly screw up.

14:33 / 04.08.04

I keep reading little bits in movie news that X3 is lost at sea now that Singer has committed to Superman. The studio still wants to make it and have it in time for either 2005 or 2006, but they have no director and the script ideas seem to have gone with the director and Singer's writing team. And then I saw this on Comics2Film:

>> X-MEN 3

You can now confirm that we'll be looking for a new Ororo -- Halle berry told the BBC "After playing Storm in 'X-Men' and now Catwoman, I think my comic book hero days are probably over. That's unless I was lucky enough to play Catwoman again. I would love to do that. But other than that, I think I've pretty much done it."

That's not really a concrete confirmation, but it does sound like she's done. There are much better Ororos out there anyway - but who knows what will happen to the story, director, etc. situation...?

at the scarwash

02:40 / 05.08.04

Maybe they could go ahead and cast Kola Boof as Ororo. I'm certain that I read an interview with her where she claims that she was approached early on for the part. At least she actually looks African, and could probably do a better accent than Berry's mysterious "Not American."

03:40 / 05.08.04

Halle Berry was doing an accent? Man, I thought she was just trying to emote or something. I'm gonna miss her.

Though I really like the X-Men movies (especially in comparison to most of the other comic book film series), I hardly think that Singer is irreplaceable. Speaking as one of the three people who loved Hellboy, I can't say enough good things about del Toro (his The Devil's Backbone is just amazing), but the X-franchise doesn't really seem to suit him; even the comics-related films he's done (Hellboy and Blade II) are horror, genrewise -- as are the rest of his films -- so I don't see his style meshing well with the material. Particularly given that the studio will probably be looking for a director whose work matches with that of Singer's...well...kinda low-key, frankly pedestrian style. That's NOT del Toro, whose work tends to be more on the colorful side (figuratively speaking). Not that a dramatic formula change might not produce an interesting X3, but I have a feeling they'll be playing it pretty safe.

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

10:51 / 05.08.04

I think Singer's a bit of a wanker for doing this - Superman is shit! Who'd choose a goon in tights over utlra-sexy sci-phry action?

A wanker, that's who.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

14:07 / 11.08.04

It's probably a gay thing.

From this weeks All the Rage: 20th Century Fox has terminated Bryan Singer’s two year development deal after only six months. This move is largely seen as a reaction to Singer’s decision to direct the next Superman movie for Warner Brothers. Effectively, this means that Singer will probably not be involved with X-Men 3, despite his stated desire to stay on at least as a producer. Furthermore, it may jeopardize the planned release date of X-Men 3, May 5th, 2006. The film is currently without a director, without a script, and key cast members (like Hugh Jackman) are unsigned. There’s a lot of work to be done before the cameras can start rolling again. And unless Fox already has a director lined up or finds another one soon, then a 2007 release date seems more likely.

15:38 / 11.08.04

god, halle berry's a bit of a wanker, eh?
i always thought she was a bit of a shell, albeit a nicely shaped one, but fuck me.
supporting actors get some of the most challenging roles... it sounds to me like someone's ego is bigger than their skill.

replace her with a blown up cardboard cut out from one of the comics and be done with her.

15:41 / 11.08.04

"She's an Oscar winner and she wants roles that test her."

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"I think my comic book hero days are probably over. That's unless I was lucky enough to play Catwoman again. I would love to do that.

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snigger.

16:28 / 11.08.04

I heard a rumor that Fox was looking to Joss Whedon to pick up the X3 baton as writer/director. Can anyone confirm this or deny it?

(Hopefully Whedon isn't still sore at how Fox treated Firefly.)

15:22 / 12.08.04

Okay it was only a rumor. I just read this on Aint it Cool:

I finally got to meet Joss Whedon yesterday. I can’t tell you everything we talked about – yet. But here’s one of the most interesting parts I can relay:
“I have not been offered [“X-Men 3”]," said Whedon. “Would I like to make an X-Men movie? That’d be bitchin’. I actually really like those actors and I really like those characters and there’s a lot that could be done with it and it’d be a romp. But I’m not setting my sights on that, I setting my sights on exactly one thing, which is [Whedon’s feature directorial debut, “Serenity.”]
“Serenity” wraps principal photography in about 10 days.
Would the folks at Marvel like to hire Whedon? “Major Tom” sent in this snippet of an IGN Filmforce interview with Marvel Enterprises head Avi Arad from February:

IGNFF: At one point, wasn't Joss Whedon up for (Iron Man)?

ARAD: Joss Whedon never wrote a draft of it. We wished! Believe me, we tried very hard, but he got busy with Firefly.

IGNFF: Are there any hopes to tap him again at some point for another project?

ARAD: Oh yeah! We're going to land him… He's a tough cookie, but we'll get him.

18:02 / 12.08.04

Innnnteresting..and encouraging...

XXII:X:II = XXX

05:31 / 18.08.04

I had a dream a few nights ago that I got to see the first full minute of X3. Watch it with me here:

Fade in on a wide shot of a city skyline at night from POV on river; shot VERY slowly pans left and zooms. After about five seconds of silence, we hear an unidentifiable POP noise... then another... they increase in frequency and volume. Gunfire? Could you hear it from this distance? Suddenly, the lights in a building flicker and go out. A brief flash of light flares up between buildings. More pops, steadily becoming thrumming booms. Smoke begins to billow up. The definite signs of an explosion at street level, followed by a few more. More lights go out in buildings. Do we begin to hear screams? Amidst the booms, a steady, metal on concrete sound every several seconds. The screen is filled with buildings passing by now, and sporadically we catch a glimpse of something enormous striding through the streets. The pan left slows enough to show us the lights go out in a building, just before the side facing us buckles and the entire structure pitches over. And there, for just a moment, gleaming in the fires boiling up from the streets, is a Sentinel, eyes glowing, which raises a palm towards us and

That was when a bill collecting motherfucker woke me up with a typically snide message on my answering machine. Which makes me think that'd be an ideal moment for Chuck X to bolt upright in bed, sweaty and wide-eyed.

What do you think, sirs?

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ONLY NICE THINGS

11:44 / 18.08.04

I think you might want to avoid cheese.

*cymbal*

Our Lady Has Left the Building

12:20 / 18.08.04

Are you sure it was a Sentinal and not a Terminator? Tricky metal muthafuckers to tell apart when you're sleeping...

14:58 / 18.08.04

I love this! from Comics Continuum.

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Astonishing X-Men writer Joss Whedon was asked at last weekend's Wizard World Chicago if he has been in talks to direct the third X-Men movie.
"There hasn't been anything official happening, but I did read on the Internet somebody wanted me to," Whedon joked. "And that's where the negotiations are. I'm negotiating with the Internet and it's going very well.

"Right now, it's a fantasy. But it's my fantasy."

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"negotiating with the internet" -- millions of fans do that every day!

07:17 / 19.08.04

I want to see Alex Scott. Havok, Polaris and Multiple Man and a few other second string X-Men operating in the background - a League of Substitute Heros style story. Sentinals, I think that it would be best is the film had the plans for them mentioned and discovered, but not atually shown, maybe the film could end with the first one being built or something. But Dark Phoenix and the Hellfire Club and Havok should be in X3, and not Halle Berrie.

15:12 / 19.08.04

well, you'll at least get your "no Hallie Berry" wish, most likely.

17:23 / 19.08.04

Good. She has been the weakest link so far in the films. Plus, I missed out a '/' in my original post, it meant to read Alex/Scott. I like the idea of Scott getting a) support from his brother, but also another point of tension along with Logan. It'd be good to get the core of the team more involved as characters, and Scott has been underused so far.

17:43 / 19.08.04

Halle Berry was doing an accent?

Halle Berry had lines?

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