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Big Brother 2004

 
  

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Warewullf
21:57 / 16.06.04
From another forum:
They're on the bed currently. Emma's just told Nadia and Marco everything about the bedsit. Told them not to say anything. I'm sure they will though.

Just mentioned to them the egg on Jay's bed. Now she's talking about the itching powder.

Looks like the only ones Emma is wanting to tell the truth to is Nadia and Marco, as Shell walked in and Emma shut up about the bedsit and reverted to the story about them going to a hotel room and getting pissed every night.
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
22:51 / 16.06.04
Except Michelle (The real Michelle) who just blabbed to Stu.

And Emma who couldnt resist a litte verbal dig at Vic.

Those two masters of espionage and subltey manged to keep quiet for all of ohhhhh 1 hour.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:16 / 16.06.04
Urg. I just had the misfortune to turn over to Channel 4, expecting the live coverage but getting Eforum instead. With Kitten telling the twartish presenter that he's opressing her by asking her to let somebody else speak.

Oh, and now she seems to have marched off. Please, Kitten, do us all a favour and accept that nobody gives a shit. Then go away for good. Maybe back to the parents' five-bedroomed place in Hertfordshire.

I don't see Dan getting the boot on Friday. He's had relatively low visibility so far and hasn't done anything to really grab the public imagination, unlike Vanessa.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:39 / 16.06.04
Emma, on the other hand, is an absolute cert to be out the next time she goes up, if the current footage is repeated on the evening show tomorrow. Stuffing her face and spreading gossip around like a character rejected from a soap opera script for being too absurd.

And Vanessa... Jesus wept. She had a maid and a gardener in South Africa and she feels hard done by. She's definitely out.

Oh. Now she's breaking down because people are throwing food around. She's not about to associate with people who carry on like animals. Bye, then. Another one who's obviously never watched the show before applying to be a part of it (what was all that stuff earlier about her being nominated by "the British public", for example?).

D'you get the feeling that somebody's a bit upset that they're no longer the centre of attention? The absolute model of the spoilt little madam.

BB is the perfect answer to the regular message board question "Is it possible to hate people you've never met?"
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:45 / 16.06.04
Woah. It's all kicking off now, but true to form, C4 aren't showing what's happening and have instead cut to the garden again, to the sound of Victor threatening Emma and kitchenware getting thrown around the house.

Now Dan's carrying Emma outside and Stuart's restraining Victor. I wonder what happens if somebody twats somebody else?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
23:48 / 16.06.04
whoops, sound's just gone off but just switched over to see Emma and Victor smacking each other

!

The Men have taken Victor off, and Dan is doing his adult thing. Michelle is wandering up and down muttering about chickens and Marco has annoyed me just by the way he sashayed, wearing only tiny shorts, into the room after Nadia and Dan who were physically restraining Emma.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
23:53 / 16.06.04
Whoa whoa whoa!

There wasn't any actual proper physical violence was there? Just posutring/throwing/threatening..?

I was worried there would be - from Jason/Victor/Emma...

Victor... jesus. "DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM... YOU AIN'T SHIT TO ME..." and more more more more repeated to infinity.

Appreciating Stu and Dan right now.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
23:55 / 16.06.04
Sounds like V threw wine over E, and I think she fought back? edits/POV notwithstanding.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
23:58 / 16.06.04
whoops, the second of those posts is the accurate one, just want to point out.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
00:00 / 17.06.04
what happened to Shell?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
00:06 / 17.06.04
and now... fascinating shots...

hosepipe handle!

oven gloves!

taps!

Statue!

Oven gloves!

etc. etc.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

coz, obviously not much happening inside right now...
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:09 / 17.06.04
Blimey... what are they gonna do, d'ya think?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:12 / 17.06.04
I mean, they managed to show the rest... meltdown? This is the aftermath.

BB = dead?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:13 / 17.06.04
D'you reckon they've sent their people in? I'm thinking it's more than likely - Shell having a panic attack or something, Victor obviously getting kicked out, Vanessa probably requesting to be removed from the house (after she was threatening to do so anyway, immediately before it all kicked off).

'Cause Vanessa was noticable by her absence, after Jason took it upon himself to do the White Knight thing and started the ruckus. And Ahmed was nowhere to be seen either.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:16 / 17.06.04
Jason "I know what I'll do, this here table needs overturning! raaargh!"

Can this be salvaged, you think? Maybe they went a bit too far with the extremes...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:18 / 17.06.04
There's probably far too much money invested to bin it entirely. I dunno what they can do to salvage it, though - I mean, if they don't boot either Victor or Emma immediately, they're going to have TV watchdogs on their backs.

Plums, somebody on another forum reckons that Emma told Victor that he was "acting like a black man." No idea how true that is, but I wouldn't put it past her.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
00:24 / 17.06.04
yeah, I'm assuming they've sent people in, they couldn't really leave things as they were, could they?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:26 / 17.06.04
IT'S NOT REALITY TV UNTIL SOMEBODY DIES!
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
00:31 / 17.06.04
NOT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAVE VOTED.


BUT WHERE'S THE ROMANCE?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:31 / 17.06.04
"I know what we can put on until we can show the live feed again - footage of some soppy-arsed Radiohead/Travis tribute band!"
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:33 / 17.06.04
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE STEPPING TOO? THE ROMANCE IS ME TAKING YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF!!!!!! RAAAR!!!

The public decide who dies. And to think, we haven't had a *real* eviction yet.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:34 / 17.06.04
Keane were very much not hotting me up.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:35 / 17.06.04
(Band = Keane)

Statue = Back.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
00:41 / 17.06.04
Someone's just texted:

"BB brother can u please tell us they're all alright so I can go to bed"

Sad or Sweet?

So, did Smarmbot start the argument? How?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:49 / 17.06.04
Well, seeing as the live shows are on a fifteen minute delay anyway, I think we can safely say that there's no more C4 BB tonight.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:52 / 17.06.04
I think I'll let the offical BB forum talk for me from now on:

there is no way victor should be evicted, he was trying to calm things down untill emma got involved, she's been itching for a fight with him since she was put in the bedsit, she got what she was looking for simple as that. And him pushing nadia is no big deal there both 2 blokes having a bit of a push and shove thats all. I think they should all get warnings and get on with the show, this is what you all wanted anyway, people are sending you text messages saying this is the best bb ever, well guess the commercial money is gonna come rolling in now its a success all round more booze more argy bargy come on England we can beat the Swiss.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:54 / 17.06.04
"Just watched the whole thang again... and mahn Dans commented " you achieve nothing by shouting" hahahahahhaaah get on mr bleeedin obvious.... nah no matter how u guys spin this... Emma isa terwatt... she is the problem in the house she started it.... she is trouble... but then again.... u dont see that because Victors black and any thing he does....???? u wanna get real and start watching what is in front of your eyes.....

Ozzio

Lets not let our prejudices bias us"
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:01 / 17.06.04
Sorry Plums. Didn't see yr post before I put mine up.

The Vanessa crying thing that I mentioned earlier seems to be what set it all off. She was sitting on her bed, in fits of tears about how people were making the house a mess and how she wasn't prepared to live like an animal/was going to leave/didn't need the money/knew starving people in South Africa who'd do anything for that food and those clothes (didn't mention whether they worked for her family)/so on.

Jason was doing his vaguely pathetic thing, sitting there and stroking her arm, and Shell was carrying on with the same line of simpering patter she perfected last night ("You're a princess," "We love you"). Dan was being Mature Dan.

Then I went to make some toast, despite feeling slightly nauseous. When I came back, Jason was yelling in Marco's face about the house being a fucking mess and Marco was laughing at him. Next thing, Jason goes ape about Marco "dancing in front of (him)", adding anice amount of weight to Nesh's theory about him desperately trying to shake off anything that he believes might lead to his superheterosexuality being questioned. "If he does that again, I'll fucking teach him a lesson" blah, except pretty nasty blah.

The Emma and Victor kicked off, totally out of the blue, rather deflating the Jason/Marco situ, but obviously both taking their cue from it. Emma's been itching for a fight up until then and Victor doesn't appear to need much of an excuse to get himself hotted up.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
01:10 / 17.06.04
Thankgyew, Randy. A scholar and a gent, you are. Well, 'nnight all.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:37 / 17.06.04
This is coming from other fora, so it might be bollocks, but I'm suddenly transfixed so don't bring your shit to me if it's wrong.

The live footage was apparently back for a bit, with just Michelle, Victor(!), Stuart and Jason on screen. Oh, and a security guard standing by the toilet. Stuart said something to the effect that he couldn't believe all the Brownies had gone. So... Shell and Vanessa likely, Jason yes, but slightly less so (although he was apparently threatening to leave) and Dan maaaaybe.

Then Victor demanded that Michelle told him exactly what she and Emma had seen during their time away. She asked him if it could wait until tomorrow, he kicked off again, she started crying, he pulled his mike off.
 
 
Bear
06:40 / 17.06.04
So the night I go to sleep early all this happens! I'll post this from another forum it's meant to be the closest to what went down -

At just after 1.30am tonight, a house war kicked off when the argument that had been building up since the girls' return took place - in dramatic style!

After an enormous indoor food fight, Vanessa was least happy to see that her fellow housemates were acting like 'animals' and wasting food. Jason and Victor came to comfort her and they all agreed that there needs to be a dramatic change - with the 'Lipgloss' crew.

However, during a break in the E4 coverage for viewers - a huge row kicked off when Victor chucked wine on Emma, and all hell broke loose as plates were thrown (not by Ahmed this time!) and housemates were held back as in full-dramatic style Jason, Victor, Nadia, Marco and Emma came to blows - with threats to 'kill each other' being thrown about.

Within minutes of the argument kicking off, Big Brother called Victor to the Diary Room - and Daniel grabbed Emma to carry her away from the argument, as the shouting continued. Insults and allegations were being thrown about from all different directions, and as Daniel dragged Emma to the bedroom - she told him that there are things he doesn't know, that she does about Victor and Jason's game plans.

Marco and Nadia were reeling with anger, as they were shocked to hear Jason telling them that he would kill Marco!: "He said he would kill me! Who does he think he is?" he said admist the drama.

Big Brother announced that all housemates should then go to the bedroom until further notice and lock ALL doors and windows. At this stage, the only housemates who had made it to the bedroom were Emma, Marco, Nadia, Daniel, Ahmed and Shell. Michelle and Stuart were still in the living room area, and Victor, Jason and Vanessa were in the Diary Room speaking angrily with Big Brother.

As they were locked in the bedroom, Shell was finding it hard to take in and panicked, complaining of feeling sick and curling up on the floor with a container.

After this, the live streaming to all viewers on E4, Channel 4 and the internet was cut for over an hour. With audio and video feeds cut completely, rumours begin circulating that producers had entered the house to speak with the housemates.

We can now confirm that members of the Big Brother team, had entered the house and that there was a security presence as Big Brother security guards entered the house to restrain housemates from launching physical attacks on each other.

With frustrated fans flooding internet forums for answers on the Big Brother bust-up - the feed was eventually restored at 3:08am, and shots of Victor, Jason, Stuart and Michelle were seen. Conversation revealed that all housemates had now found out about where Michelle and Emma had been. Victor and Jason were throwing accusations towards Michelle, and claiming it was unfair that Michelle is still here and has seen everything that has gone on. "You were evicted!" he told Michelle.

"I wasn't evicted! I was voted in to the bedsit." she replied.

When Victor interogated Michelle further she broke down in tears: "I didn't want it to come out like this, I wanted it to be all diplomatic. I didn't want it to blow up like this!"

Conversation was then seperated as Victor and Jason complained further about the situation, and Michelle and Stuart discussed what the bedsit and his cowboy outfit on the sofas.

At just after 3:40am, viewers were shown shots of Nadia, Daniel, Marco and Ahmed in the bedroom. Nobody had been asleep yet, and Marco told Nadia that he understands why they have been locked in the bedroom for so while: "I'm calm now though! I need to speak to someone though (member of production team), I can't function until I do - if I don't, I'm going to blow!"

Discussion then turned to Nadia apologising to Daniel: "I'm sorry, but I just can't get on with him now Daniel" she said, talking about Jason. "Why are you apologising to me?" he asked confused. "Because you are good friends." she said. Daniel insisted that he was only friends with him on an emotional level, but does not condone his behaviour tonight at all.

At the time of this published story (04:06), Nadia, Ahmed, Daniel and Marco are still locked in the bedroom with a security guard outside.

At approximately 04:27am, the live feed showed that Vanessa and Shell were back in the living room area. Although, Shell looked visibly shaken - Vanessa and Shell spoke to Michelle and Stuart about the truth behind their opinion on their 'relationship.'

The discussion was full of civil honest truths about the opinions of each other. Michelle told Victor how he had been perceived to her and Emma, and Michelle questioned Vanessa and Shell about their opinions on Stuart.

At 4:44am, with Marco, Nadia, Daniel and Ahmed still locked in the bedroom/bathroom area - Marco and Nadia call Michelle over and ask to speak to Shell: "I'm sorry chick, I don't think she'll speak to you - she's a bit shaken up?" Michelle said.

"How come?" asked Nadia. "Because she thinks it's your fault, and she's not happy that you argued with Vanessa." informed Michelle.

Michelle tells them both that Shell blames Marco, Nadia and Emma for the row. After Michelle left them, Marco and Nadia tried to call Shell over from the bathroom window - however Shell refused to acknowledge them, and didn't want to go over.

"She's made her choice." summed up Nadia.

As for Emma, as of 5am - she is still nowhere to be seen!

We spoke with sources close to Elstree Studios, who told us that all night - after the argument broke out, paramedics and convoy's of 4x4 blacked-out vehicles could be seen. Paramedics presumably for Shell - who needed medical attention earlier in the night.


Bit big maybe? Anyone it looks like Emma is gone?
 
 
Bear
06:52 / 17.06.04


Yikes
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:45 / 17.06.04
Gosh. Can't imagine that anyone could have predicted that putting a group of essentially dim people selected for entertaining antagonism in an unfamiliar environments, then subjecting them to a series of shocks and reverses, could *possibly* have led to unpleasantness...

I'm just surprised they turned off the feed. Pussies. And it looks like C4 are still trying to work out what to put on the website.
 
 
Bear
07:56 / 17.06.04
I think they were hoping for a bit of action, hence the bottles of wine for the housemates - not sure they were expecting all this to happen.
 
 
Nobody's girl
08:00 / 17.06.04
"Because she thinks it's your fault, and she's not happy that you argued with Vanessa."

Goodness, can you imagine having the sheer temerity to argue with Vanessa?

Y'know, I knew Shell would eventually piss me off. To use the terminology flying about the house- she's a classic beta female. Perfectly personable but she hangs out with the nasty girls, so she gets to be nasty but everyone likes her. Ugh.

I think it's kind of sweet how Shell can't handle conflict, though. I'd lay bets her parents are divorced and she had a hard time coping with it.

Vanessa is such a "spoilt little madam". Everyone isn't paying attention to me- that means they're childish.

Emma is mental but I really enjoyed her dynamic with the endlessly patient Michelle in the bedsit.
 
  

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