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Marvel Mythology Surgery

 
  

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Mr Tricks
17:05 / 15.03.05
The character appeared in the pages of X-factor (drawn by art adams). His name was Alchemy, a young London jid who could turn things to gold with a touch of his hand. He stayed home with his Mum at the end of the story.
 
 
Aertho
17:11 / 15.03.05
And yet appeared again in the pages of Excalibur. This time, "goblins" kidnapped his mum or something — forcing him to turn all sorts of things gold to appease thier desire for shiny shtuff. Excalibur was cool with London cop Dai Thomas at the time, so they worked as Britain's super-group. While they investigated a gold-themed heist, Alchemy managed to call and alert the members of X-Factor at the X-Mansion. X-Men Blue team and Excalibur united to defeat the goblins and STILL the kid stays with mum.
 
 
adamswish
18:06 / 16.03.05
'The upper limits of the Hulks' strength have never been reached as he could conceivably keep getting more and more angry' (?)

Back when I was reading the Hulk (the whole pantheon storyline) Peter David actually covered this point for the new improved "all three persoanlities merged into supa-dupa greener hulk".

At the end of a long and winding storyline Hulk/Bruce had just gone up against Acheilles and was so mad something tripped in his head and he reverted to the body of banner and the mind of the old "leave me alone, HULK SMASH" green original.

So you have the perfect image of an enraged Hulk trapped in the "weedy" nuclear scientist's body.

Still managed to finish off Acheilles though as Bruce gave off gamma radiation and guess what Acheilles "heel" was.

Not sure how, or if, they do it nowadays.
 
 
Benny the Ball
21:02 / 18.03.05
Does it work that in order to stop the Hulk being strong, you just need someone to massage the pleasure or calm parts of his brain? Is it possible that the happier you make him the weaker you make him? Or does he have a floor level strength?
 
 
Triplets
16:30 / 19.03.05
Surely, once you get him happy enough he just turns back into bouncy Banner?
 
 
Bastard Tweed
19:50 / 19.03.05
At last I shall defeat the Hulk with my new super-powered mercenary ... The Masseur!
 
 
gridley
14:47 / 21.03.05
Would have been especially nice to see Emma Frost do it to him.... damn, now I want to see Grant write X-Men vs. Avengers....
 
 
Pooky Is Just My Pornstar Name
21:54 / 28.03.05
Nah, Emma wouldn't stoop to "masseusing" anyone - exceptions made for Scott though, no doubt. She'd just telepathically push the Hulk's bliss buttons, give him a super mind-blowing O, and he'd revert back to puny Bruce Banner.

BTW, does anyone know the age difference between Kitty and Peter? If memory serves, their relationship never got physical (i.e. consumated) because of the age difference, and the fact that Peter (Marvel Editorial, really) wasn't comfortable witht the whole statutory rape vibe.
 
 
The Falcon
22:12 / 28.03.05
Think it's 5 years; him being 19 and she 14 at the time.
 
 
gridley
13:02 / 29.03.05
Nah, Emma wouldn't stoop to "masseusing" anyone - exceptions made for Scott though, no doubt. She'd just telepathically push the Hulk's bliss buttons, give him a super mind-blowing O, and he'd revert back to puny Bruce Banner.

Yes, that's what I was refering to obviously. Mentally, not physically.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:26 / 29.03.05
It seems like about 10 years ago they actually allowed Kitty to get a little older in the Marvel Universe; maybe she was around the age that Dick Grayson, Roy Harper, and Wally West are now in the DCU. But Joss Whedon's take on Kitty seems to take her back a few years... Cassaday draws her slightly younger than she's been drawn to look in the past few years of X-stuff. Or am I the only one who thinks they've subtracted a few years from Kitty's age lately?

Then again, almost all of the past few years of X-stuff was crap (excluding Morrison's run) so maybe de-aging her a few years or so doesn't really matter.
 
 
Mr Tricks
15:44 / 29.03.05
When she was reintroduced to X-men continuity she was working as a bartender (X-treme X-men).

Kitty came to the X-men at 13.5 (Pete Rasputin was about 18-19) She had at least 1 birthday celebration as an X-man and may have had another while out in space. I'd say she's at least 21 now with Rasputin being around 26 (plus minus the length of his death). This would place Scott somewhere in his early 30's with Emma being just a tad older.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:26 / 29.03.05
Sounds good to me.
 
 
Aertho
19:26 / 29.03.05
Emma's only 26.
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:43 / 29.03.05
26? how old was she when she was hanging with Sebastin Shaw and C.E.O of her own "FROST Industries?"

I'd buy her at age 36 easily... but you know whatever...
 
 
FinderWolf
20:00 / 29.03.05
Chad, are you seriously saying that based on something or just taking the piss with us?
 
 
Aertho
20:05 / 29.03.05
Jesus.

Part Four of Riot at Xaviers. I was taking a piss. Emma's telepathy makes her appear however old as she wants to be... AAAAAND, Kitty's age makes her a shitty character.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:36 / 29.03.05
That's what I figured, but here on message boards, you never know...
 
 
Pooky Is Just My Pornstar Name
23:25 / 29.03.05
Yes, that's what I was refering to obviously. Mentally, not physically.

Geez, Gridley, I was being tongue-in-cheek with my previous response. No one sane would expect Emma to really give the Hulk a hand-job. I was taking the piss, dude.
 
 
Billuccho!
23:47 / 29.03.05
Kitty's around 18 to 20, Pete's 25 to 28, Scott's 30 or so and Emma is "officially" 27 but really 32, dammit!

So sayeth I.
 
 
Hieronymus
02:22 / 30.03.05
No one sane would expect Emma to really give the Hulk a hand-job.

It's the diamond skin of that scenario that gives me the wince.

Sorry. *puts his nose in the corner*
 
 
FinderWolf
16:59 / 18.04.05
They just had the Hulk taken down by the New X-Men (the new "New Mutants," basically) by the girl with pheromone powers...it's not sexual but she makes the Hulk feel happy, so he wants to stop smashing things. He just feels nice and then chills out and stops rampaging. (LOL) The issue comes out next week, read it in the previews. So there you all go.
 
 
Sax
11:15 / 19.04.05
No one sane would expect Emma to really give the Hulk a hand-job.

I'll lay good money it's been discussed more than once over comic shop counters across the land.
 
 
Gary Lactus
20:21 / 12.05.05
A Kitty Pride question that's been bugging me:
I thought she used to disable electronic and mechanical workings when she phased through them. Was this a huge oversight in the recent battles with The Danger Room, (in Astonishing X-Men) or has this power loss been dealt with at some point?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
11:01 / 13.05.05
Electrical systems can be insulated against disruption by her powers. I would expect everything X-Related to be insulated as standard.
 
 
Spaniel
12:19 / 13.05.05
Fraely, that is actually mentioned in the fight. Go back and have a read.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:09 / 13.05.05
On another X-topic, MAN does Angel's new costume look awful. It looks like he's got the SHIELD logo on his chest. (other than that, it's the classic Neal Adams blue and white number, but that new logo is just horrible.)
 
 
thirty/thirty
11:59 / 25.07.05
Does someone actually know how Emma's original Hellions died? Were they murdered? And what does Trevor Fitzroy have to do with anything?
 
 
This Sunday
12:16 / 25.07.05
From memory - which means many sections may be out of order or just wrong but pretty close - Fitzroy travelled back in time in a unitard with a windshield built into it, invaded the Hellfire Club while Phoenix and Storm were there, caused a ruckus, killed many Hellions. One issue later, he realized it'd been so much fun he killed some of the same Hellions again. Put everyone's favorite tight white leather wearing dominating, body-stealing telepathic headmistress and CEO, Emma Frost into a coma. Where she remained for a handful of years, only to return do some snippy tantric tease and encourage with Bobby Icemonkey Drake, head an Xavier's branch to teach Gen X kids who were all too young to be Gen X kids proper, and eventually, after evil-siblings and Irish ex-cops, found her way to Genosha, where Phoenix found her under some rubble.

And, yes, every time you see the Hellions dead or being killed, there's either one's not previously shown now buying it, or else futureboy's killing the same one twice.
 
 
Aertho
12:37 / 25.07.05
Back during the turn of the X-franchise, when Uncanny split and birthed plain old X-Men, Claremont/Byrne/Editorial were toying with the idea of "replacing" the Hellfire Club's old guard of lingerie and piratewear with a younger, wilder, powerful, and competitive group of mutants, known as the Upstarts.

The Upstarts were a loose organization that collected points for killing other powerful mutants. Trevor Fitzroy was a member, as was Fabain Cortez, Siena Blaze, and I believe the Fenris twins wanted membership as well. The chaotic element was kept tight by the observation and competition garnered by the mysterious telepath Gamesmaster.

While this was a brilliant idea, it was never realized for the same reason Jean never stays dead.

Fabian Cortez's first ploy for points was the murder of White King Magneto, which took place in the first artc of X-Men (XM 1-3). Trevor Fitzroy, the enemy of the corresponding arc of the Uncanny series, plotted to take out Donald Pierce with Sentinels he stole from the near future. When attacked, Pierce used the teleporting powers of Gateway to bring him to the "one who sent the Sentinels against him". This resulted in him being dropped in the Massachusetts Acadamy/Hellfire Club (I forget which).

Emma Frost, who still EVIL at the time, showed signs of lightening up when she extended an invitation and truce to the X-Men -due to the fact she was becoming aware of the existence and threat of the Upstarts. Trevor Fitzroy had also come to the party, and was planning to take the White Queen out, in order to get more kills than Fabian. Pierce shows up, and it's a Sentinels versus Hellions/X-Men free for all.

Trevor escapes, and his Sentinels manage to "kill" Jean Grey, as well as capture most of the Hellions and Emma Frost. After chaining the Hellions down, Treovr began to use his power on them - to draw out the life-energy of an individual in order to power time-portals into the future. His portals released countless future mutant criminals -another brilliant new idea to establish more "bad guys" to the X-Universe. His portal also brought Bishop -possibly the best of the latest round of "new characters to be X-Men".
 
 
Sean the frumious Bandersnatch
23:27 / 25.07.05
"replacing" the Hellfire Club's old guard of lingerie and piratewear

That's the worst idea I've ever heard.
 
 
Lord Morgue
08:40 / 26.07.05
During Peter David's "Reverse Hulk" run, where the "sane" Hulk would revert to Banner with the Green Hulk's mind when he lost his temper, both in the comic and the in-continuity novel he brought out during that period, it was pretty much stated outright that Betty would calm him down with sex, not being able to handle a Hulk-sized man-thing (Unlike Marlo, heh heh.).
Best line of the period, when Doc Samson tosses Hulk-Banner into a padded cell- "Hulk's butt hurts!".
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:39 / 26.07.05
"So you're saying the madder Hulk gets, the weaker he gets?"
 
 
adamswish
18:36 / 01.08.05
The chaotic element was kept tight by the observation and competition garnered by the mysterious telepath Gamesmaster.

If memory serves at the end of "Executioners Song" there was a one off "secret files" issue of all the information that Stryfe (sic) had gathered on the mutants and Gamesmaster was classed as an "Omnipath". He heard everyone's thoughts and the only way he managed to keep sane was to hook up with a bunch of egotistical wannabes who "broadcasted" just that little bit louder then the rest of the world.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:39 / 02.08.05
Claremont/Byrne/Editorial were toying with the idea of "replacing" the Hellfire Club's old guard of lingerie and piratewear with a younger, wilder, powerful, and competitive group of mutants, known as the Upstarts.

You know, Chris, after your success with disco, I think it's time you turned your genius to reimagining punk...
 
  

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