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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:20 / 15.10.07
I think we are meant to take it that Glenn's silent majority is/are a JOKE!!1!

Aren't jokes supposed to be funny, though?

Or did I actually sleep through the most important meeting ever?
 
 
Lurid Archive
00:34 / 15.10.07
You missed that meeting, stoats. Jokes don't have to be funny - thats how Jim Davidson gets to call himself a comedian.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:44 / 15.10.07
Ah, I always wondered about that one. I SO need a new pager.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
07:33 / 15.10.07
I don't think Glenn's implication was that he is is a jokesuit, pure and simple. I think the "haha I might be a jokesuit" stuff is an attempt at wry self-deprecation.

As for the crack about the silent oppressed mass... if you're going to say something douchey for comic effect, it is necessary to raise it above your normal background level of doucheyness for it to register as an attempt at humour. If you are given to dark hints and nebulous allegations in the normal run of things, it is tricky for the reader to discern precicely which hints and allegations are meant to be funny.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
12:08 / 15.10.07
If you are given to dark hints and nebulous allegations in the normal run of things, it is tricky for the reader to discern precicely which hints and allegations are meant to be funny.

Not sure 'funny' is the right word. Perhaps unserious - the posting equivalent of 'Last of the Summer Wine'. Seemingly ever-living, and likely to make you feel mildly depressed at teatime on Sunday.

 
 
Quantum
12:26 / 15.10.07
Glenn, you are the longest-running comedy series in the world and I claim my £5.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:41 / 15.10.07
Last of the Summer Wine is a load of tedious shit, always has been, and I wish they'd get rid of it.

Yeah, that's about right.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
13:09 / 15.10.07
But that doesn't really work, Petey, does it? If somebody says 'I am X' and you respond with 'Yeah, you are X!', it rather takes the sting out of your use of 'X' as an insult.

That said, you're of course free to try to get rid of both The Last of the Summer Wine, and me. Then again, your telly has an 'off' switch, and Barbelith has an ignore button. After all, I wouldn't want you to pull this face when you read my posts...

  
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:21 / 15.10.07
And we get back to the age-old question of whether we should be thinking about banning people on the grounds that the value they contribute to the board is so hard to quantify that when they are even slightly annoying or trollsome there is nothing to place on the other side of the scales. Basically, Mathlete redux.
 
 
HCE
14:24 / 15.10.07
Depends on how much energy and space they siphon off. How about pointing them to another outlet for sharing their content?
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
15:12 / 15.10.07
It's a bit unfair to start labeling people me redux. GM's his own person, not simply another Mathlete/Zedoktar/annoying person of the week.

And suggesting someone might have ear-nor-mouse power issues is surely less of an insult that calling someone a tedious shit.

My barbannoy is that sometimes we lack perspective. And that all the promises of a few weeks ago are taking to long to pan out.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:00 / 15.10.07
Woah! Boardquake. Haven't had one of those for a while.

And quite right, Maths. Not right to compare people. It's specifically the discussion on your Policy thread redux.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
16:03 / 15.10.07
Ok, that wasn't istantly clear. It seemed you were suggesting that GM was giving little in the way of value, like me. But that's not the case.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
16:18 / 15.10.07
Hi Haus!

Not that I'm seeking to defend myself of course (I'm far too busy hurtling down a Yorkshire hillside in a bathtub with a couple of senior citizens for that!), but you and others may want to look at the following me-penned posts, most of 'em posted with my serious head on, if the scales of justice are to be dusted down:

A straight-faced thread on Martin Amis

Some straight-faced comments on the sadly delayed Morrison WildCATs

Some straight-faced comments on charity and the Right

A fluffy, though enjoyable to many concerned, thread on staff in comics

A semi-fluffy (!) Conversation thread about pubic hair, which is kind of SBR avant la lettre in its approach

An innocuous thread about Alan Partridge

Some literary double entendres

Some literary criticism

Some GM (no, not George Michael, the other one!) fantasy football

A bit of me going PC craaazy

A bit more

Art criticism

More SBR stuff in the Convo

Proving Epop is Alan Moore / Al Gore

More art

Comics and architecture

A sensible comics thread on the Ultimate line

My first thread! It's on art, and is going fine until a certain high profile poster strolls in...

Is that GM being serious in the Music forum? Yes it is!

Silliness in Convo, but not BAD silliness

A sensible post or two in the temple about the notion of 'mundanes'

A contribution to Creation

There's more I can dig up, if you like. Granted, none of this would hang in the Barbelith hall of fame, but there's content in some of it, and reasonable debate, and if there's levity it's tempered, now and then, with the knowledge of the sour brevity of life.

I realise, of course, that this might be read as an open invitation for you, Haus, to link to some of what you think are my less agreeable posts. I'd remind you that this is something you've done on several occassions before, so to save you the time might I suggest that interested readers have a rummage around the site using an advanced google search. The search terms 'Haus' and 'Glenn_Medeiros' should bring these links up in a few clicks of a mouse.

Might I also suggest that, when it comes to fights, my suit isn't entirely serious. Not in a laff-a-minute sense, nor in a Trickster/Coyote sense, but rather in the full knowledge that this is an internet chat board, and as such fighting (outside, of course, the arena of hate speech) is never an entirely serious activity.

So, it remains for me to say good luck! I'm going to pop a Seal CD on the midi-system, and see how this all pans out.
 
 
Olulabelle
16:51 / 15.10.07
OK well, while the subject is problem posts I'm fed up that everywhere there are stupid one liners from Granny which rarely bear any relevance to the discussion and seem just there to be facetious. And the general response to those seems to be 'Shut up Granny' over and over again. Over and over but never any serious discussion about it. I get really fed up with reading the Granny posts, all these little blippy bits interrupting the flow of good Barbelith and I wish they weren't there.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:59 / 15.10.07
Oh, you're him! Linky Frieze magazine chappy. I remember your application email, I think. Bless.

All started going a bit wrong round about the Invisibles annotations thread, didn't it? Still, not too late to recover brilliantly. Just stop trolling, and don't let Alex's Granny encourage you because he finds people making arses of themselves amusing, and you might yet recover.

However, this attempt to evade by spurting ink out of your arse? Not great. Didn't work with the high horses dig - see zedoktar, recently, for the difference between an apology and an arsepology - didn't work with "how dare you use my previous name", didn't work with "you say 'douche' because you hate women". And, just FYI, it's unlikely to work with "I am not bothered, so I win la la la fnord".

Since you aren't very good at trolling on this evidence, I'd suggest not doing it. It's not a skill to spend too much time developing.

Still, if you aren't taking any of this seriously, that might explain the rather slipshod nature of your recent contributions. Perhaps that will at some point also change. Fingers crossed, eh?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:20 / 15.10.07
Lula: yes, it did get a bit much after a while eh. That and the getting a bit combatative around three o' clock in the morning; can happen to the best of us (hem hem) but AG has made rather a habit of it...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:37 / 15.10.07
I've always thought that the lack of negative response to AG's posts must have meant that somebody, somwhere, found them a laff-a-minute, and that the problem was, therefore, obviously my own.

But now I'm wondering if that's what everybody else was thinking, too.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:09 / 15.10.07
I've gone from finding AG's antics moderately amusing to wishing he'd keep them out of more serious threads, to "Oh. This again." Not helped by things like his input in the DeDI fiasco, which tended to undermine my initial perception of someone who was basically well-intentioned and just funning around.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
19:10 / 15.10.07
I tend to find them funny about fifty percent of the time, and when I don't it's almost always because of the context of the thread at hand; as well, ze will occasionally post something a bit longer than a one-liner. Sometimes they feel more appropriate and other times they seem to miss the point of the situation (particularly when its a thread in the Policy, for example) or veer into downright offensive territory.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
19:12 / 15.10.07
I just don't think I'm nearly clever enough to figure out how sarcastic they are. or aren't. I'm usually torn between "giggle!" and "?".

perhaps people are merely afraid to point out that they don't get the joke, and assuming everyone else is.

or maybe it's just me.
 
 
Olulabelle
19:34 / 15.10.07
I don't think that they are sarcastic, it's nothing to do with you not being clever enough. You wouldn't get them even if you were cleverer than Magnus Magnusson.
 
 
Papess
19:57 / 15.10.07
Aunt Beast, that is about where I a at as well with AG. At first I found hir rather funny.
 
 
Tsuga
22:37 / 15.10.07
It is a bit tedious.
Like a hair in the throat.
Yes, I believe that's it. Tedious and annoying, but not enough to get worked up about.
Yes.
A hair.
 
 
The Falcon
23:20 / 15.10.07
Well, it's a bit of an irritant to be on the receiving end of an AG windup, and realise there's precious little you can do about it, speaking from experience but it's generally also worth noting he is about one of... five? people who actually can and does post engaging and coherent things in I think every forum.

Of course I wish he'd not post drunk at 3am. Of course I do. Especially not in a policy thread. But otherwise the schtick, 'lower than a worm' aside, still amuses, by and large.
 
 
This Sunday
23:36 / 15.10.07
I find AG's stuff often amusing, sometimes confusing, and then there's the actual commentary. I get the schtick. I know where I stand with it, or in relation to it. I can't say that for the snarkier or more sarcastic sides of some other posters who're on the whole more well-meaning.

It's sort of an I put all this effort in and have the patter and patterns down excusing, there, but well... I did put in the effort. We all did.

And AG does contribute useful stuff, too. Just not when drunk. -er?
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
23:41 / 15.10.07
Haus, a bit disappointed that you couldn't do better than that, but I guess we all have our bad days. Anyway, pip pip!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:48 / 15.10.07
The cloud of ink seems almost beautiful, but one cannot help but remember its unlovely origin.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
23:53 / 15.10.07
Hi Haus!

Stop trolling me, there's a good chap. Cocktails at the Rourke's Drift Soc after, I promise.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:58 / 15.10.07
Tell you what, Zahir. Have a month. If you get through that month without popping up in a thread to insult me or Aunty, or indeed any other character I have not noticed incurring your mighty wrath, if you make it through without trying to take over a Policy thread or drooling on the floor in the Head Shop, you get to be the new King of Barbelith. To help you out for the first difficult few steps, I'll whack you on ignore. Can't say fairer.
 
 
electric monk
02:17 / 16.10.07
You know what?

If you can't spell Dead Kennedys, there's no way I'm going to take you up on your music recommendations.

That is all.



(GOD, that's been bugging me.)
 
 
grant
12:25 / 16.10.07
You too, huh?
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
14:07 / 16.10.07
That's nothing! I once mis-spelled the number seven and the word "shoe". True story.

I'm annoyed that the John thread in the Temple isn't moving as fast as I'd like. I'm sick of waiting, people!
 
 
HCE
14:34 / 16.10.07
Incidentally, it feels to me a bit as though we're talking about AG as though he's not here. Not sure how not to do that.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:52 / 16.10.07
I will bring this thread to his attention. For what it's worth, when he's on form I think Alex's Grandma writes posts which make me laugh far harder than those (that are meant to be funny) by anybody else on the board. I do wish he'd abandon both the idea that trolls = inherently entertaining (I think this may just be separation anxiety since paranoid writer left these shores, comrade), and also refrain from bringing his antics at too early a stage into otherwise interesting threads. I think he's drained the reservoir of goodwill a little dry of late. But he's not even in the top... 30 or so?... most annoying posters on this board, IMHO.
 
  

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