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Celebrity Big Brother 2007

 
  

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penitentvandal
19:53 / 24.01.07
They really don't have a lot of ideas, do they? Basically it's dodgy experiments from the Evil Age of Psychology, or cheesy old quiz shows.

So, now we have them playing Mr & Mrs; tomorrow will probably be the Milgram Obedience Experiment.

Or maybe they'll play Catchphrase tomorrow, then have to do the two-string problem on Saturday - but with ELECTRIFIED STRINGS!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:15 / 24.01.07
When does Bullseye get a go?

That's all I'm asking.
 
 
Ganesh
20:18 / 24.01.07
I have a feeling that, come non-celeb BB in the summer, we might have to outlaw references to the St*nf*rd Pr*s*n *xp*r*m*nt, Z*mb*rd*, etc. They're sort of becoming the Soc Psych equivalent of L*rd *f th* Fl**s.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:20 / 24.01.07
* j*st th*nk v*w*ls *re *lw*ys g**ng t* b* s*m*th*ng *f * pr*bl*m, *r*n't th*y?

Th**gh I d* g*t y**r p**nt. J*st th**ght *'d m*k* * ch**p g*g.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
20:21 / 24.01.07
In a couple of years, **** ***** ** *** ** ** ***** ****?
 
 
Ganesh
20:22 / 24.01.07
C*r*l V*rd*rm*n h*t*s y**.
 
 
Sniv
20:49 / 24.01.07
*o* a*ou* **i*?
 
 
Whisky Priestess
20:52 / 24.01.07
I can't believe you *st*r*sk*d b*nch *f b*st*rds didn't tell me about the showgirl task on last night's highlights!

DAMN YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:53 / 24.01.07
Stoatie wants to a make a chimp gag? Seems unlikely, on the face of it...
 
 
Whisky Priestess
08:20 / 25.01.07
Plus chimps have strong stomachs. They don't gag easily.
 
 
jentacular dreams
09:16 / 25.01.07
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6297969.stm

True or not, it's surprising he said it.
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:55 / 25.01.07
True or not, it's surprising he said it.

Not really. Channel 4's effectively been saying "F**k you!" to all it's critics since this row began so it's hardly a shock that they'll keep on in that vein.

%They're just being edgey and telling it like it is.%
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:35 / 25.01.07
Hang on, he's saying it might otherwise have been the most boring BB ever? Yet he stands by the producers?
 
 
Smoothly
13:20 / 25.01.07
It is weird, isn't it? I'm surprised that they're trying to brazen it out like this.
 
 
Sniv
13:38 / 25.01.07
Stoatie - he stands by them because what they had planned was this. 'Make CBB the most talked-about programme in the country and you get a raise!' They lost a sponsor but gained a million viewers. What's the balance on that do you reckon?

Also, I just want to come back to a point thats been raised a few times by people at Channel 4 and others and has been dismissed quite readily (from what I've seen and can remember), which is the idea that the racism row has been, if not 'good' then at least useful in terms of getting people to talk about racism. I think this is mostly true, but I wish it could be taken further.

Seeing Jade denying she's 'a racist' till she's blue in the face is kinda missing the point, isn't it? She's not involved in the debate at all, she's paddling in denial, and I've noticed this from a lot of people that I speak to in meatspace about this. I don't think people realise their views and almost subconscious prejudices that lie just beneath the surface really do affect they ways they treat people. They don't need to be a card-carrying abuse-hurling bigot, but I've come across and hell of a lot of views recently that scream unexamined racism at me. I think the debate, especially the televised debate that people seem to take most of their cues from really needs to address the issue of subconscious prejudice and just how to begin dealing with it when you notice it, both in others and in yourself. I think if Barbelith has taught me anything it'll be that, and it has come in very handy recently when talking with people and trying to debate their rather dodgy views with them.

(as I write this my colleagues have just started talking about 'Asian Awareness' in highly derisive terms, despite having spent the last week stressing how non-racist and inclusionary they are. What can you say to that??)

So yeah, my point is that I think this controversy probably is a good thing, but I wish the televised debate would go a little deeper, perhaps telling people things about themselves they might necessarily want to hear.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:23 / 25.01.07
Ok, now someone's GOT to get fired now, surely?
 
 
h1ppychick
15:23 / 25.01.07
Jade's planned trip.

how prophetic were the posts upstream, huh?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:33 / 25.01.07
Ah, but h1ppych1ck, it gets better...
 
 
Triplets
16:11 / 25.01.07
That's fantastic.

The Barbelith P.R. Agency can only be a few years away now, surely?

"Ordinarily, the time it takes for a visa application to clear is roughly 24 hours, but Goody has yet to receive her passport back."

We're stuck with her? Noooo
 
 
penitentvandal
16:19 / 25.01.07
So much for having 'high-up people' on your side, huh?

The other day, at work, I was trying to explain to one of my colleagues who 'loves Jade'* why Jade Goody should be punished for her racist remarks, when this gem of a sentence came out of her mouth:

"I think it's all just totally gay...anyway, when that other P*k* was on the show last year, he got bullied and that wasn't racism!"

What the fuck do you say?

*Incidentally, this workmate apparently loves Jade because she 'wishes she had Jade's breasts'. But she could! Jade's breasts aren't real! How is having fake breasts a noteworthy achievement in this culture? Did I miss some kind of meeting? Jesus.
 
 
Ganesh
16:23 / 25.01.07
Also, I just want to come back to a point thats been raised a few times by people at Channel 4 and others and has been dismissed quite readily (from what I've seen and can remember), which is the idea that the racism row has been, if not 'good' then at least useful in terms of getting people to talk about racism. I think this is mostly true, but I wish it could be taken further.

I'd like to see Jade's brand of ignorant/unexamined racism held up for comparison with the comments espoused by whatserface from Shipwrecked, who seems much more consciously, intentionally, traditionally BNP-racist in her worldview. It seems to me that this might be a public discussion worth having.
 
 
Ganesh
19:14 / 25.01.07
Jo's a dedicated miserablist, isn't she? Why doesn't she find a sharp protruberance - the corner of the kitchen unit, maybe - and repeatedly bang her head against it until her skull fractures and she dies of brain haemorrhage? Being alive appears to disappoint her terribly.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:30 / 25.01.07
OK, everything aside, I just fell in love with Shilpa.

When Jermaine was saying the names of Michael's kids, and he got to "Blanket", she had EXACTLY the right facial expression someone hearing that should have, imho.

She's still not my fave, but that was ace.

I fear for Dirk, to be honest. He clearly has to win, but it's a fucking minefield at this point.
 
 
Ganesh
19:44 / 25.01.07
Shilpa's my fave. Her excitement at seeing snow fall was the clincher.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:46 / 25.01.07
Funnily enough, that was what made me love Traci so much last year.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:48 / 25.01.07
Thing is, in my ideal world, EITHER Shilpa or Dirk wins. Preferably Dirk, but seeing as how it's my ideal world, they're gonna get married and both have wonderful careers anyway, so it matters little which, really.

But Dirk was in the A-Team, so he's obviously better.
 
 
Ganesh
19:48 / 25.01.07
Funnily enough, that was what made me love Traci so much last year.

Who?

(God, my BB memory's short...)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:49 / 25.01.07
TRACI!!! (Sorry, that was CBB... she stayed up all night getting drunk with Maggot, and none of it ever made it to the highlights shows, but she was so fucking funny. And she went mental when it started snowing and was soooooooo cute about it).
 
 
Ganesh
20:06 / 25.01.07
Oh yeah, the American one.

I'm guessing snow was awesome!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:46 / 25.01.07
It was. She said "Oh my GAAAAWWWD!!!" repeatedly.

But it was sooooo sweet.
 
 
Ganesh
20:48 / 25.01.07
It was awesome!
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
21:01 / 25.01.07
You know who's awesome?
You two. Are.
 
 
Ganesh
21:05 / 25.01.07
Awesome!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:53 / 25.01.07
You're mocking Traci.

I'm a bit cross now.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
22:03 / 25.01.07
I wasn't mocking anyone. I don't even remember Traci. I genuinely think you two are awesome. And chose to express that.
 
  

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