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"Heroes" Series 1 (US and Torrents edition)

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Kali, Queen of Kitteh

14:36 / 31.10.06

I too was like, "Gee, no, really? Duh!"

A very middling episode. Unsurprised that those were not Claire's birth parents--or rather they had been told not to mention anything significant.

Glad to finally see D.L. and you think he's killed Niki? (There were mentions of a permanent death for one hero.)

The cutesy Hiro in America stuff is starting to wear thin.

16:16 / 31.10.06

Luckily, Hiro's geeky wonderment will be replaced by mutant angst as he cannot get over not being able to save those men at the poker game.

Incidentally, why did Niki kill those guys?

Will say last night's was sort of a lower point in the show, but it still rocks me.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

16:17 / 31.10.06

Well, it all ties in with "Niki's alter ego framed D.L., took the $2M from Linderman, killed D.L.'s crew, and is killing off witnesses."

17:22 / 31.10.06

But we all knew that already. Yeah this episode wasn't that good. I still like the Hiro in America stuff. It was the only thing the kept me watching.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

17:41 / 31.10.06

Exactly, this episode told us nothing about Niki that anyone with half a brain already watching knew.

00:19 / 01.11.06

That "a do-over" line is going to be important in the final episode.

00:22 / 01.11.06

Baseless speculation: Niki sets off bomb to protect her son.

11:48 / 01.11.06

There were mentions of a permanent death for one hero.

Were there? When?

Yeah, that episode was let down by a host of not-so-thrilling revelations.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:01 / 01.11.06

Somewhere on another Heroes forum the creator said that one or two of them will die.

15:59 / 01.11.06

Instead of getting rid of some characters maybe they should get rid of some writers.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

16:44 / 01.11.06

Strong truth. The Continuity Angel on that show keeps passing out drunk.

17:35 / 01.11.06

Hah, that reminds me of the Capital One crappy guardian angel commercial.

18:42 / 01.11.06

Could we try and keep the writers' comments to the spoilers forum? Okay, again we're in slightly uncharted territory, and I'd be the first to admit that characters dying is always a possibility in shows with a large cast, and that plans change (see Lost), but I think reporting what the shows creators have to say about future events rather goes against the spirit of a no-spoilers rule.

I suppose I just want to avoid getting into a situation where it becomes legitimate in this thread to discuss what the creators have to say as long as it's not officially verified.

19:00 / 01.11.06

SHE'S FAYE DUNAWAY'S SISTER AND HER DAUGHTER YOU GODDAM PUSSIES

23:36 / 01.11.06

You know what’s weird, I bitch and moan about the writing and acting and how Heroes could be so much better… but I find myself looking forward to Heroes more than Lost on a weekly basis, even thought Lost is a better show. I wonder why?

Is heroes for all it’s flaws, a funner show? Anybody else feeling something similar?

Jared Louderback

04:28 / 02.11.06

I dunno about funner, but it seems like Heroes is going somewhere, and it's a bagillion times more coherent. Sometimes I am convinced that the creators of Lost are really throwing darts at a board marked differnt "cool" ideas.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

18:38 / 02.11.06

So, was Future Hiro talking to Peter part of his 'do-over'?

This is the first show in a long time where at commercial breaks I am on the phone with my best friend yelling "Holy shit that was cool!"

18:45 / 02.11.06

Do-over has quite a different meaning in the UK:

To do someone over: to rip them off or rob them or kick the crap out of them
To do somewhere over: to rob or ransack it.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

19:15 / 02.11.06

Wow, I had no idea. Does knocking over have any meaning in the UK? It generally refers to ripping off or robbing a place.

Also the phrase 'giving someone the once over' sounds like a similar meaning in the states.

miss wonderstarr

22:53 / 02.11.06

Just watched episode 6, which I've managed to download before 5. Is enthusiasm for this series tailing off on Barbelith? I'm a little surprised the commentary is becoming so bitty and fragmented. On the other hand, I felt this episode was a mixture of stuff-we-knew-reemphasised, and stuff that pushes weird coincidence and conspiracy into slightly irritating and implausible territory. Claire's dad is just getting too... well, I hesitate to say "comic-book sinister", so maybe Saturday-morning-serial sinister. Melodramatic mastermind, anyway. Also, oddly, the world of Heroes is starting to feel very small... oddly because it is the whole world, but everyone's starting to bump into each other now.

One w00-yeh moment with the hand going into Nikki's chest.

Maybe one of these heroes will DIE, one will BETRAY the others, and none of them will MEET?

ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!

02:50 / 03.11.06

I really enjoyed episode 6, but not as much as the other episodes so far.

Nothing can compare to the sheer awesome of the end of episode four (not even the beginning of episode five, unfortunately), however.

6 was less full of novelty than the others, but maybe it was there to clear things up for the slower readers in the class, with Eden (this name seems highly portentous, to me) revealing herself, etc etc.

09:40 / 03.11.06

Also, oddly, the world of Heroes is starting to feel very small... oddly because it is the whole world, but everyone's starting to bump into each other now.

That would be DESTINY'S HAND at work.

That little trick managed to make the SW universe seem positively parochial.

10:15 / 03.11.06

Yeah, with everyone being in NY, LA or wherever cheerleading girl lives, it's hard to make the world seem large. Especially now we know they'll be drifting towards NY eventually, and that Painting guy, Nathan and Hiro all are trying to get to the same place (cheerleading girl). Also, I don't think it's stange for cheerleading dad to become comic book sinister, to me the whole series has a comic book feel to it.

I'm getting annoyed at how predicatable it gets sometimes (Pixie girl is evil? OH NO!), and how they rub some things in your face, like that cheerleading girl's biological parents weren't real. It was like they were saying over and over again "These people are not the real biological parents!". I'm not that stupid. The meaningful glance between Glasses and BParents would have been more than enough.

Somehow I keep watching it though.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:25 / 03.11.06

Yes, the last episode was a bit rubbish.

Here's hoping it was only a fluke.

miss wonderstarr

18:12 / 03.11.06

I finally got hold of the pilot, and this question is answered:

In the above-linked "value stamps," what the dickens is Uluru?

It's Hiro's screensaver and the comic Mikah (?) is reading. Well, that doesn't entirely answer the question, but maybe it's like Walt's polar bear comic book? Maybe a big bad that's going to come to life later on.

15:41 / 04.11.06

I dunno, i think the quality of the dialogue has gotten much much better over time. I can forgive the plot holes, provided they paper over them well. it adds to that comic book feel, just like the way they replay the opening/ closing scenes with slight alterations. very comic-booky.

there was just somthing about glasses man talking to eden about the guy who could manipulate time, and out of nowhere he just says 'that's cool..' wtf? it's those little touches that make it so much fun.

19:24 / 07.11.06

Really enjoyed last night's episode. The divergent plotlines are tangling together, and I like how they're giving fans what they want. Like it was a given Michah would have super powers, due to his mom being a closet Hulk and his dad a male Kitty Pryde. So now we know what his powers are (which explains his mom's seemingly offhand comment in the pilot on how he can fix computers, etc), but also that he's smart enough to realize that his mom has separate personalities.

The alter-ego mother storyline also continues to interest me. I'm wondering if she's going to stay bad or what. I really believe that eventually this whole group will get together to become an X-Men type team. Or maybe they won't -- a lot of people suspect that some of these "heroes" will in fact turn out to be villains, Nathan chief among them. I still cling to my notion that Nathan will serve as the Han Solo-type of the season, maybe even sacrificing himself (or his senatorial ambitions) for the greater good. His speech last night, by the way, was great -- sure, it would be great to fly, but what exactly can you DO with it in the real world?

As for the other new special person last night...the nuclear reactor guy. Hmm...might he have something to do with the New York explosion being promised/threatened in the upcoming weeks?

And what's the story with Nathan and the painting Linderman apparently agreed to give him -- the painting Nathan then told his brother he was unable to get? Does Nathan want it for his own ends, or does he want to destroy it to keep his brother from screwing around with this super-hero stuff? The brothers got all the best moments last night...particularly the brunch sequence. Though I did enjoy the "chance encounter" between Hiro and Michah.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

20:53 / 07.11.06

Yes, last night was definitely better than last week.

21:05 / 07.11.06

Niki kills reactor guy in New York. New baseless speculation. Because reactor guy (Sturgeon, as in the SF writer?) is threatening son.

Baseless speculation #2: Cop is going to learn something he tells FBI lady, who somehow informs politician AND glasses guy (an APB or something that both intercept) that will prove vital to the end point conflict.

Was that a bar code on Niki's and the psychic cop's necks?

14:20 / 08.11.06

Oh, and the politician is keeping the painting because he believes his brother, but doesn't trust him to do the expedient thing. Cards close to his chest and all.

14:52 / 08.11.06

Small correction: Radioactive guy is Sprague, not Sturgeon. Although the name "Ted Sprague" sounds vaguely familiar, too.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

15:26 / 08.11.06

Not a bar code, and not on Nicki's neck.

The radioactive guy and the cop both have a little double hash mark (like ||) on their necks, I assume from when HRG guy did his tests on them. I assume that based on nothing really, but thats my theory.

15:47 / 08.11.06

L. Sprague de Camp?

Google only gives me Ted Sprague as a choreographer, a doctor from Georgia and a rower/sculler who may or may not have had an interest in ocean navigation.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

18:16 / 08.11.06

I still think Linderman will prove to be a very interesting reveal.

18:48 / 08.11.06

That line about exploding was super hamfisted. Could the writers have been less subtle?

Of course, it's probably a red herring, but what an oafish way to produce some misdirection.

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