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"Heroes" Series 1 (US and Torrents edition)

 
  

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buttergun
12:47 / 23.10.06
PROMO SPOILERS...

NBC ran Heroes last night, a repeat of last Monday's episode. Afterwards they played a very long commercial for "the coming weeks" of the show. Lots of details were revealed, in particular...

The identity of Alter Ego-mom's husband. It is none other than the bald black guy employed by Creepy Glasses Man. Many shots of him talking to A-E's son, who referred to him as "dad," shots of him and A-E (in "evil" mode, it seemed) laying on a bed together, etc.

So this confirms my theory from last week...A-E's evil half is working for Creepy Glasses Dude, same as the Bald Black Mental Powers Guy. This is why Glasses took the would-be Senator, rather than Alter Ego.

BTW, it looks like the flying senator gets a lot of action in the coming weeks. Showed a quick scene where he pulled some krav maga moves on some guys in an escape attempt, moves that would've made Jack Bauer proud.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
18:36 / 23.10.06
I totally called Bald psychic guy being Hyde's husband.

It really only worked because we knew the dad would show eventually and that was the only black guy to appear in the series.

My current theory is that the Hiro talking to Peter is from a future where they didn't save NY, hence his futuristic (maybe post apocalyptic?) clothing and he came back to fix things.
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:44 / 23.10.06
That sounds cool. I'm glad not all of these characters are stright up heroes (I mean Claire killed/tried to the date rapist jock.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:29 / 24.10.06
And once more, Bald Telepath is NOT Alter Ego Mom's hubby.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
13:41 / 24.10.06
all evidence to the contrary, though...
 
 
buttergun
13:45 / 24.10.06
Yeah...though in my defense, that Sunday night promo was filled with half-second scene cuts, and I believe went from Creepy Glasses' Bald Black Mental guy to...A-E's bald black estranged husband. It was an easy mistake...two bald guys of the same height, build, and age. All they need is to throw Taye Diggs in for a guest spot. Speaking of which, his upcoming "Groundhog Day meets 24" series on ABC (Daybreak) looks like it MIGHT be promising.

Okay, for one -- the narrator for this series has to go. The guy has an awful voice. He's just reading his cards and you can tell he's trying to give his voice that hushed sense of excitement, but it's not working. Shit, they should just hire Stan Lee to do it.

Has anyone noticed how the ends and beginnings of episodes don't match up? Like in the ep which ended with Claire on the autopsy table, she said "Oh shit," right before the cut to the credits. But in the opening of the next episode, her reaction to her situation was more subdued, and she didn't curse. Same with last night's -- the stuff Future Hiro said to Mimic-Guy (can't recall his name) at the end of last week's episode was not the same stuff he said in the beginning of last night's. It's a little distracting, but gives the show a comic book/serial feel.

Speaking of Future Hiro...his appearance turned out to be very anticlimatic. I'm not even sure WHY he had to show up, other than a cool hook to dig into viewers. So is Future Hiro from some alternate reality where he never got to talk to the artist, and New York was doomed?

Also not enjoying the mental cop's storyline. His wife is grating, and the couple's scenes make me feel like I'm watching "What Women Want" meets Felicity...probably because the actor (Greg Gunberg?) was actually IN Felicity.

And final criticism...how long do you think until we are all sick to death of the "save the cheerleader" tag? They even played it at the end of the credits! Seems like they are taking it/themselves a bit too seriously.

Other than that...Nathan's escape via flying was the coolest moment in the show yet. The promos kinda spoiled it, but damn...very cool. He's been practicing, I'd say. I also enjoyed how he promised to have Creepy Glasses and henchman killed.

Also, I would just like to say that Nathan and Hiro deserve their own sitcom. Those two were comedy gold together. "The Adventures of the Overeager Japanese and the Condescending American." It would be like a "Perfect Strangers" of the 21st Century...only with superpowers.
 
 
buttergun
13:47 / 24.10.06
BTW, from that half-second glance of him we saw, it looks like A-E's husband is played by the guy from Angel. The street kid who showed up at the end of Season 1 and I believe worked with Angel till the end? I'm not sure...I only watched the first half of Angel Season 1; stopped watching when they killed off the Irish demon guy (who unfortunately died for real a few years later)...
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:56 / 24.10.06
No, D.L. is not J. August Richards from Angel. He is Leonard Roberts whose link to the Whedonverse is that he was a member of the Initiative on Buffy.

There's a lot of talk being bandied about on TWoP about the fact the Continuity Angel on Heroes has pretty much passed out drunk every time.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
15:24 / 24.10.06
wait a second...they are really two different bald black guys? I could of swore that the implication was that the guy got in their house via the Sylar hypno-powers... I'll have to watch that again...it was pretty dark. also the whole mark on A-E's back matches Sylar's necklace thing...

And yes, I rewound Nathan's take-off. Loved that!
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
15:34 / 24.10.06
Go to the spoilers thread for a list of the stylized RNA strand appearances.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
18:06 / 24.10.06
Why are you calling Memory erasing guy Sylar, Keith?

Did I miss something or is that just speculation?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
19:36 / 24.10.06
Isn't that the name that the FBI people used for him?
 
 
gridley
19:43 / 24.10.06
Sylar is the serial killer who's taking people's brains. And who used to be working with Mohinder's father.

The silent telepath working for the cheerleader's dad doesn't have a name yet.

And there's no indication that Sylar is D.L.

We don't even know for sure whether we've seen Sylar, although Sylar may have been the telekenetic guy who attacked the telepathic cop and Clea Duvall. In which case, Sylar is none of the above, because that guy looked pretty white.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
20:07 / 24.10.06
huh, I must have been making some really bad mental leaps, because I thought:

Guy scooping brains = Sylar = Guy who attacked FBIagent and MentalCop = Bald guy who abducted MentalCop in bar = Bald telepath guy with Glasses guy = D.L. (based on the picture of D.L).

Perhaps I'm not paying attention...but I thought that was the narrative they set up. Although, looking at generic promo images like this one shows me that I'm seemingly wrong about D.L. = Bald Telepath.
 
 
Spaniel
20:23 / 24.10.06
Grid's thinking matches mine. I can see how you've got there, Keith, but I'm not sure you've put the pieces together correctly.
 
 
grant
21:23 / 24.10.06
the narrator for this series has to go

Isn't that Mohinder's father?

There's a special one-name voice credit in the opening credits. Looked Indian, but I could easily be mistaken.
 
 
Psi-L is working in hell
21:52 / 24.10.06
I think that the one named person in the credits is the name of the person singing/wailing on the soundtrack, not the name of the guy that does the voice over...agree that the voiceovers feel a bit uneccessary.

An episode without too much Mohindar was a relief I have to say...
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
23:03 / 24.10.06
ah, me am stupid, I guess. Oh well....however, watch me step into it again:

I thought the narrator was Mohinder's voice?
 
 
Jack Fear
00:08 / 25.10.06
Yes, it is.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
01:12 / 25.10.06
Now the voiceover, talking about evolution and such, is Mohinder.

The voice that needs to go is the recap guy:

"A MAN, who can BEND TIME. A woman with a SECRET. A Message from THE FUTURE"

That guy needs to shut right up and let me watch my stories...
 
 
grant
01:43 / 25.10.06
Oh, that.

Right. I'm watching these things on the web, so while that voice is still around, it's not as integrated into the episodes.

I can see that being bothersome.

I now believe, by the way, that the politician dude is gonna be a bad guy who has to make A Moral Choice by the end, and he's going to fight his brother. Possibly in mid-air.
 
 
buttergun
12:54 / 25.10.06
Yes, Elijah got what I meant -- I wasn't referring to Mohinder's opening narration for each episode. I meant the guy who does the recaps before the episodes begin. He sucks, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Dammit, bring in Stan Lee!!
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:08 / 25.10.06
I think it's a gimme Adrian Pasdar's going to the dark side....look at the man's resume'. (Anyone remember Profitt? That show was messed up.)
 
 
buttergun
15:15 / 25.10.06
I think he's going to have more of a Han Solo storyline. They've already set him up this way. Just like Han, he's not interested in being a hero, he's just there for some glory and cash (ie demanding 4 million from Linderman). Also his promise to have Glasses and henchman murdered. I'm thinking Nathan will have the true hero's arc in this season...he'll probably end up saving everyone. This would make for more of a "dramatic twist," as so far he's the only "gifted" person who hasn't shown any interest in saving anyone.
 
 
grant
15:21 / 25.10.06
After fighting his brother.

In midair.
 
 
Char Aina
15:31 / 25.10.06
almost certainly.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:46 / 25.10.06
grant- I now believe, by the way, that the politician dude is gonna be a bad guy who has to make A Moral Choice by the end, and he's going to fight his brother. Possibly in mid-air.

God, I hope you're right!

Does Nathan (flying politician) have super strength or just flight? I hope they play him like Lex with Supes' powers.

Although I agree that Matt's relationship with his wife was lame this episode he is one of my favorite characters and eventually his powers are going to fuck up his relationship more than they're helping.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
16:19 / 25.10.06
Wait until you have to deal with Nathan and his wife.

(It's not a spoiler if you've been paying attention.)
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
16:49 / 25.10.06
Am I the only one who thinks Linderman doesn't exist?

I think the Asian woman who is handling his business created a shadowy figure because a female crime boss would have a hard time making it big.

Think Remington Steele...
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
17:24 / 25.10.06
I'm actually thinking Linderman might be someone we already know.
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:16 / 25.10.06
Like who?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:43 / 25.10.06
Here's a feature from NBC about "Heroes", sort of.

*
 
 
Hieronymus
20:11 / 25.10.06
Sweet christ, that's why i hate morning shows.

Keen science-y bits though.
 
 
buttergun
13:43 / 31.10.06
Okay, so for the guy playing DL -- I was thinking the same actor, but said the wrong one. I said it was the guy from Angel, but I was thinking of the guy from Season 4 of Buffy -- Riley's pal/fellow soldier in that underground military lab deal. The one who was turned into a zombie creature at the end? Is that not the same actor currently playing DL in Heroes? I'm just too lazy to imdb it...
 
 
buttergun
13:44 / 31.10.06
Kali, I take it your reference to "the Initiative" above IS that underground military lab deal from Buffy...

As for the episode last night, not bad, not great, kind of in the middle. Hey, were all of you as floored as I was that the girl next door turned out to be under the employ of our villainous father in glasses?*

*Note use of sarcasm.
 
  

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