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"Heroes" Series 1 (US and Torrents edition)

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14:44 / 07.12.06

Are we meant to think there's a romance of some kind evolving between Peter and Claire?

No. He's her hero.

Possibly my favorite moment in that episode, because she sold the damn line.

Question show keeps asking: What is a hero?

One of many answers: The guy who jumps off the building without knowing he'll make it.

14:45 / 07.12.06

as far as Mr. Bennet having the mind blocking powers, Bennet wasn't in the bar when Parkman first encountered the static. the Haitian was there alone. i'm still unconvinced Bennett has any powers.

i was wondering about everyone else's opinion of Peter's dream in the final scene of the last show. i pretty sure that it was a warning to Peter that his absorption powers need to be brought under control. he has just had close encounters with 4 powered people, Claire, Parkman, Haitain, and Nathan, at which point he problably leeched off all of them. you could se the effects on his body as he seemed to be sick. he then has a dream where the other powered people are running away from him, actually being directed away from him by Parkman, and then looks to explode.

the common theory is the dream is warning about Radioactive Man, whose name i believe is Sprague, either blowing up or Peter abosorbing Radioactive Man's power and blowing up.

i think the next few episodes will deal with Peter trying to gain control of his leeching ability, because if he does encounter Sylar without that control, Peter will have the problem of too many powers leeching from Sylar that he won't be able to control.

14:48 / 07.12.06

I don't think Bennett has any powers either.

miss wonderstarr

15:26 / 07.12.06

I too believe in the Real Dinosaur™ theory. If he can't control his power properly, why not send him into the distant past as a gag?

A dinosaur is a mythical beast... it didn't exist in the "past". Hiro would have to cross into some kind of alternate universe, exactly like the start of Zenith Phase II, to encounter dinosaurs.

Q: Are we meant to think there's a romance of some kind evolving between Peter and Claire?

A: No. He's her hero.

Ehh... is Spider-Man not Mary Jane's hero? Is Superman not Lois Lane's hero?

15:31 / 07.12.06

I got this from the NBC message board and I thought it was cool. This is Hiro’s desk from the first episode.

Samurai sword and Godzilla.

16:34 / 07.12.06

A dinosaur is a mythical beast... it didn't exist in the "past".

Me not understand.

16:41 / 07.12.06

Suppose that the Haitian (damnit he needs a better name), is a general mindwipe and psychic shield. But Mr Bennet is the real power dampener. In the way that most everyone gets a power that suits them somehow (Matt gets great detective powers, Hiro can make his own time), Bennet is the normal man, determined to clamp down on the weirdness and control it. He clamps down on powers through his sheer belief that things need to be normal. Sure, the Haitian can neutralize others through brain static and general psychic fuckery, but the Bennet can actually shut the powers themselves down.

I don't think any of this likely, but I think that a cool way to defeat Sylar would be to have him eat Bennet's brains and then be entirely neutralized as Bennet's power dampening abilities overtake everything else.

I want a real dinosaur, but I doubt I see it happening. Remember, Issac's painting showed Peter splayed out, but it did not mean that Peter was dead. It's really a matter of perspective, it looks like a real dinosaur, but it probably isn't. Though I don't really like the idea that each character has a totemic item, that bugs me.

16:59 / 07.12.06

A dinosaur is a mythical beast... it didn't exist in the "past".

Please tell me you're kidding.

17:06 / 07.12.06

Oh, you people with your "dinosaurs" and "samurai."

i'm still unconvinced Bennett has any powers.

He wasn't on the list.

17:15 / 07.12.06

I want a real dinosaur, but I doubt I see it happening. Remember, Issac's painting showed Peter splayed out, but it did not mean that Peter was dead. It's really a matter of perspective, it looks like a real dinosaur, but it probably isn't. Though I don't really like the idea that each character has a totemic item, that bugs me.

I believe Peter did say that he had died. Claire's response was she had also.

Sure, the Haitian can neutralize others through brain static and general psychic fuckery, but the Bennet can actually shut the powers themselves down.

i'm pretty sure Claire's powers have been used in his prescence; the cut on her hand in the flashback episode, for example. was he around when she disposed of her hand?
he could have stopped a lot of worry about his daughter if he had just shut down her power. she wouldn't have tried the outrageous stunts to test them out if she had never found them.

17:40 / 07.12.06

Claire is so very obviously crushing on Peter. Sure he's her hero. But the way she delivered the line was like, "You're my hero...and you're so dreamy!"

If anyone recalls, I predicted this way back in the episode in which they first met. Claire was giving him the old batty eyelashes even then, during their conversation in front of the trophy display. Yes, I would like my cookie now.

Also, now that the two people Claire has confided in have had their memories erased (her pal and her little brother), she'll have no one else to turn to...and dammit she's a teenaged girl, I think it's a prerequisite they have SOMEONE to talk to about their problems 24/7.

18:01 / 07.12.06

I really hope her friend's memories come back (kind of like Matt's memories are slowly coming back now) but if they don't, I hope she tells him again and they remain friends. Along with Ando, I really liked him as a supporting character/sidekick.

miss wonderstarr

18:34 / 07.12.06

I hope her and Peter become BFF. Sorry about the dinosaur thing, I was in a "funny mood"!

09:10 / 08.12.06

The only thing that has thus far prevented me from committing to a Claire and Peter becoming an item in the short term (read: this series, and possibly the next) is that this is an American TV show. Even if she is above the age of consent, Claire is still a school girl, and Peter is an adult, and I'm just not sure whether the creators will be brave enough to throw an adult and a teen into a relationship. Note, I'm not saying I'm convinced that they won't, just that it is a real possibility.

Whatever, something is being set up between them, and it does look like they're gonna be more than just friends.

11:06 / 08.12.06

Yeah, her having a crush on him would be perfectly safe for TV, but he can't reciprocate. Besides, he's all in love with Simone.

11:43 / 08.12.06

Claire's going to turn back at the last minute and huggle him as he's about to explode, thus taming the savage energies building up inside.

11:44 / 08.12.06

Oi, spoiler tags next time!

11:46 / 08.12.06

If not taming, then at the very least allowing him to heal after his death.... still, New York would be gone.

12:26 / 08.12.06

Yeah, I'm thinkng preventing the explosion, or at least evacuating the city is gonna be a bigger priority than saving Peter. They'd be a bloody shit bunch of superheroes if they were just in it for their mate.

13:39 / 08.12.06

I'm wondering if that slow-mo scene of all our heroes in NY is going to be the last episode of the season. I hope it's sooner (Jan. would be nice) but I doubt it.

13:47 / 08.12.06

Oi, spoiler tags next time!

Who me? No spoils, my friend, just playful guessing.

They'd be a bloody shit bunch of superheroes if they were just in it for their mate.

Save your mate, save New York...

14:05 / 08.12.06

See, every time I tell someone off like that for spoilers I mean it as a joke, and every time the person thinks I'm being serious. You'd think I'd learn

14:14 / 08.12.06

Save your mate, save New York...

Yeah, but not is he actually explodes

15:37 / 08.12.06

Unless it's saving New York FROM gentrification and soaring rents...

16:21 / 08.12.06

So what's the deal with where everybody else has gone in Peter's vision of the explodey future? Has anyone got any theories?

16:33 / 08.12.06

Maybe the city's been evacuated?

(I'm not sold on the idea, but it would seem to fit)

16:44 / 08.12.06

Yeah, that's the impression I got. Matt in particular looked like a cop coordinating an evacuation. I think all the characters were meant to be symbolic some how. Like Claire wouldn’t be wearing her cheerleader outfit would she? Matt wouldn’t be dressed as a cop again? Also Peter was wearing a Sylar watch. I don’t think Peter was “Peter” in the dream, but Sylar.

I don’t know. My ideas are choppy at best… Does anyone have this TiVoed or something and can check for me?

17:08 / 08.12.06

I know what you mean. It did seem a bit odd to find them in their respective... er... outfits.

I think it's more than possible that the vision wasn't entirely accurate in terms of yer soothsaying and more symbolic. Don't get me wrong, I think it presents a real threat, but more to the point I think it sums up Peter's anxieties.

17:15 / 08.12.06

i'd say it's more a dream that vision, as Peter has never exhibited a predictive ability other than when painting. his character has had other dreams which some portion of which are true, the death of the patient he was caring for and his brother's accident, but all were all real time.

my take is the reason the city was evacuated was because you were suppose to focus on the specific people seen. those with powers. those are the people who were affecting Peter and the cause of his dream - his power absorption ability. Parkman is directing everyone away from Peter because, as he can't control his power, the more of them that are close to him the more chance he will overload.

i didn't notice the watch before but that might a reference to Sylar, in that if Peter does meet up with Sylar, without his power in check, he has the possibility of overloading, also.

17:15 / 08.12.06

Of course, a character's greatest fear should always rise up to challenge them at the climax, so....

17:18 / 08.12.06

Well, I think it would've been pretty easy to produce a scene where the heroes were the focus without emptying the streets, so I not sure about the strength of that argument. Also, it's pretty tricky to make a street in NYC appear devoid of people so I can't help thinking there's a little more to it than that.

17:21 / 08.12.06

While I think it's plausible that Parkman is directing people away from Peter because they might push him over the edge, I think a much more likely explanation is that Peter is going to explode and Parkman is making a futile, desperate attempt to get people clear.

17:26 / 08.12.06

Sorry, last time.

his character has had other dreams which some portion of which are true, the death of the patient he was caring for and his brother's accident...

Well, I'd forgotten about that stuff, but frankly that's all the precedent I need to establish in my mind that Peter has some sort of visionary ability. Weird that you could come to any other conclusion.

17:39 / 08.12.06

my take is the reason the city was evacuated was because you were suppose to focus on the specific people seen. those with powers.

Does Simone have any powers? I thought she would when the show started, but they've never shown any have they?

17:56 / 08.12.06

also, Claire runs by him, stops, and then mouths "I'm sorry." Why? because she has added to his fate by giving him her power.

the dream Peter had in the holding cell ended with Sylar saying something to Peter about Peter not having an understanding of power; specifically Peter's own power of absorbing other's powers. Sylar is the opposite of Peter, someone actively seeking powers. Peter, up until now, has been letting the powers flow into him without any control.

his dreams aren't future visionary future. they inner visionary, about himself, his powers.

i'm seeing something completely different from that dream, which is interesting. it's a warning to Peter to get his power under control. it seemed to me the entire episode, as far as Peter's story, indicated that way.

of course there were other people in his dream, those he cared about, that would care about his well being. it was a dream after all.

i can't see how anyone can tie that dream to Radioactive Man, as Peter has never met him. his anxiety of controlling his power manifested, in his dream, as the worst thing he knows that could happen, the NY explosion.

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