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krakaboom
21:41 / 08.01.07
>>>>>Anyone else spot anything you'd like c-ch-changed - please advise.

jamie, just an incredibly minor nitpick...

in issue 3, lois' legs are colored a tan skin tone while in the "action suit". but in one panel near the end, while the arm wrestling is happening, her legs are colored blue.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:18 / 08.01.07
Falkey: I was defo going for the three as the wise men with knowledge of the boy's destiny, given the lead-up being about the miraculous arrival of the child. And praying.

There's something very...interesting about Clark attending his own "birth" (from boy to man). And three wise man...hmm. I'll ponder that.
 
 
The Falcon
22:50 / 08.01.07
Admittedly, I had just rewatched the heavily Christ-myth influenced Superman Returns (and reread One Million for that matter; these confluences come subliminal) and been struck by my own revelation that Martha and Jonathan share first initials with another spesh wean's parents. I expect everyone else already knew that, but it only just occurred to me. Smallville as the manger? He 'belongs to the world', I guess.

Anyway, on Kal Kent - who is now, I think though I been wrong before, some 700thou years older than his mainline counterpart (853,500AD v. 85,271AD, iirc.) - and the Lexy-connexy, I'm thinking 'end of Red Son, maybes?' Grant's already told everyone, in daggerlike post-breakup fashion, that he - and not his flame-headed protege - wrote the end of that one. To my, admittedly limited wrt Superman lore, knowledge it's the only Omega point stretching further than Superman Prime's reappearance and resurrection of his heaven in the aforementioned One Mil. It also (SPOILERS for a 4 year old comic) has Lex's kin becoming rulers of the Earth, ultimately reducing their surname to L (e.g. Lex-L) and the world ending much as Krypton did, with descendant Jor-L boosting his only son off to, well, the Ukraine, c. 1940. Return and begin again. It's some kind of Moebius loop thing but, yeah, maybe that's playing in, the Luthor genealogy, or maybe it entered the line at some indistinct point along with the likes of Superman Purple (red + blue = o' course.)

I want to see Superman Purple rather a lot.

Anyway, I'd say this ish was perfect - it wasn't of course, the Chronovore-steed bit was not so clear and the whole plot doesn't really make sense, especially given ?uperman knows intimately what happens/will happen, but it's cup runneth over with binding emotionality and humanity. It's about the saddest, kindest comic I've read in several years dressed in the usual high-concept you expect and absolutely beautiful stuff, really. I love Quitely's new sense of spatiality, always the revolving camera, open areas.

Early benchmark for '07, and could easily retain its Eisner if it continues the hot run of form over the last three that've been a traintrack to My Heart station. Special and warm.
 
 
The Falcon
22:54 / 08.01.07
Yeah, 85,271 - I just used a calculator. Doesn't really matter, I 'spect it's a flub, but I get confused thinking about that far in the future too.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:45 / 08.01.07
Gad. I'll fire some thoughts on Superman Purple into the thread later, much later, but on the walk home I had a small mythophany - this is Orpheus & Euridice, catapulting thematically down into the underworld of Times Past from his ferrywoman boat-ride at the end of #5...this is Clark come back in time to see his Pa.

He's Orpheus but it ends well because unlike "real" Orpheus, Clark can make the decision to leave everything as it is and merely take the last moments of Pa's life - the ones he missed before - and make of them magic, helping himself process his own oncoming "tragedy." He's Superman, he can save his own day, and he abides the rules (does not allow Pa to see his face as Orpheus couldn't look back at Euridice).

And of course Golden Super-Yin comes unclothed because that's Clark-as-God, final form (possibly), and the whole point of those rules about time travel are as vapourous as the rule about not looking back at Euridice - defined by random gods (& writers) but ultimately at the whim of those gods. Super-Yin allows him to look upon his face because it suits him, gives him a laugh ("Ha.") and Clark hasn't yet evolved enough to understand what he's looking at.
 
 
Mug Chum
07:36 / 09.01.07
>>>>>I love Quitely's new sense of spatiality, always the revolving camera, open areas.

Quitely was my favorite artist since Flex Mentallo, but only after A*S#1 I saw the guy's extreme talent on so many qualities, when he made that unbelievable effect of a falling merry-go-round/camera-turning on the Bradbury scenes (combined with the sense of Sup's entrance). It's just so... goddamn impeccable the manner his sense of movement, space, continuation, composition and angle (and panels distribution) pulls the reader's eye in a very distinctive way, one special way for what each occasion asks for (for instance, Lex on his last page on #5, changing -- so abrupt and smooth at the same time -- between closer and furthering away).

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Re: three kings and trinity. Jackpot.

The set-up; initiation-birth; son-father/ now-future/ man-"God"/ man-superman/ superman-goldenSuperman Consubstantiation and Transubstantiation. It was on the nose the all time. The Sacramental Union. The Supercontext. I knew it, the haiku about the "Unified Field".

I love Barbelithers.

Here comes the sun. Come together
 
 
Jamie Grant
09:13 / 09.01.07
Colour fixes for 6 issue hardcover...

Krakaboom - thanks for Lois' bare leg pointers for page 17 of #3

Finderwolf - thanks for Lana's hair colour correx in the cafe scene in #6

There's a whole heap of ones spotted throughout - hope there's time to nail them all. The 'S' symbol on Superman throughout issue #1 is being digitally remastered and the colour around it sort'd.

Aw the best -- Jamule
 
 
The Falcon
11:38 / 09.01.07
Good news about the S symbol, Jamie; it was terribly fucked on that 'Not if I can help it' panel in particular. Dunno why they couldn't just let the minor alteration stick, sigh.

Also, I dunno if this is just a few copies or what but the spread as Superman flies Lois to the Fortress o' Solitude pp.2-3 in #2 is totally wonky on the right hand side. Like aurora borealis down one half.
 
 
John Octave
14:09 / 09.01.07
Well...if S-symbols are being digitally remastered and all...

Issue 6, page 13, panel 1 ("What's going on?" "Stand back, Clark, this is a job... / ...for the Superman Squad!") it appears from what little is visible that the Unknown Superman has a conventional S-symbol instead of that rad question mark. Anyone else see this?
 
 
Jamie Grant
15:30 / 09.01.07
Thanks John, well spotted. You're eagle-eyed! Putting it on the list. Anyone else - I'll hold out another day to catch any last clangers. Aw the best -- Jamie
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
15:34 / 09.01.07
gotta say I think this ish is the writer's homage to his own dad, all our dads, the good ones anyway, and it's really rather nice to read a comic like that.

real 'rupert the bear' weirdness with the quitely/grant work too.

nice one!
 
 
The Falcon
15:57 / 09.01.07
Yeah, right on yawn - 's basically the brother of Zatanna #4 in that respect.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:59 / 09.01.07
A bit more expanded upon than Zatanna #4, I think, where Zee only had - what - two or three panels of time with her father?

Sparrow: The set-up; initiation-birth; son-father/ now-future/ man-"God"/ man-superman/ superman-goldenSuperman Consubstantiation and Transubstantiation. It was on the nose the all time. The Sacramental Union. The Supercontext. I knew it, the haiku about the "Unified Field".

I'm curious...I'm thinking this is the very first time Clark is initiated into the Superman Squad, where he's called upon to go adventuring with them, and I'm thinking it's specifically because he's finally developed the time telescope technology (ostensibly to find out about his own purported demise and even a scrap of hope therein) and is therefore "ready" for proper time-travel. I know he will have time-travelled many times before that but his attempt to link up with the rest of the Superman Dynasty in a meaningful way would probably signal to Super-Yin Prime that he's, you know, ready to get involved in an organized way.
 
 
Spaniel
17:28 / 09.01.07
(I completely love this thread and I completely love this comic. Just sayin')
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
17:37 / 09.01.07
seconded on both counts.
 
 
The Natural Way
18:27 / 09.01.07
Now, I'm not sure about this, but it seems as though the super-imp's S is the exploded, cross-section of a 5D original S, if you get my drift, which you probably don't because this sentence is clumsy, badly expressed and far too long.

Anyway, have a look.

And, yeah, absolutely, Superman Purple is so badly the amalgamation/progeny/next phase transition of Supes Red and Blue. Royal and enlightened and all that.
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
22:55 / 09.01.07
"Superboy Prime punched a wall. There. Continuity is fixed."

Is that Superboy Prime on the holy trinity of Supermen at the very end next to Golden Superman?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:38 / 10.01.07
Falke: Anyway, I'd say this ish was perfect - it wasn't of course, the Chronovore-steed bit was not so clear and the whole plot doesn't really make sense, especially given ?uperman knows intimately what happens/will happen, but it's cup runneth over with binding emotionality and humanity.

Well, the whole Chronovore melee's a distraction, really, from the actual plot of the issue - the dramatic tension's an illusion and this comic is entirely about Clark getting to fulfill that fantasy of going back and having one last afternoon with his dead father. It's the grown-up middle-aged Superman, too, so it's about going back to see Pa Kent in the same way that he used to visit Jor-El in the past on unexploded Krypton, but that was a more adolescent (in terms of development/time of life, not implying any sort of judgement with the use of "adolescent") search for self and roots while this is a more mature examination of regret. It's the natural extension of those old "Superman returns to Krypton" stories.

Basically, Clark knows what's going to happen but he has no idea what Pa's last thoughts were in those last three minutes. That's the uncertainty of the adventure.

Superman's so...idealized in his middle-age. Atlas and Samson are busy trying to score with women like Lois in their mid-life crisis Chronomobiles because they can't give their "youth" (both figuratively due to behaviour and literally due to immortality), but Clark just wants to get closer to the people in his life now that he has some strange sense of mortality (despite repeated signs pointing to NO, YOU WILL NOT DIE). He doesn't punch but calmly assesses the situation and solves the problem.

I really do want to see a grown-up Lana come to Metropolis before the story's done, in some capacity. I think she acquitted herself so nicely in that one short scene with her and Pete; there are so many layers apparent between the three and their friendship in one short scene. Pete manages to be something other than a fill-in for Jimmy Olsen and Lana isn't just a stand-in for Lois; they're something else entirely now. I can't quite put my finger on it.
 
 
Triplets
01:11 / 10.01.07
I like how each issue hasn't really strayed from the idea of "a man putting his house in order" with only incidental appearences by his enemies (save Lex, of course, who's always been part of the main cast).

Notice that? All the super-fights have been pretty much off page? Supersaur Krull gets beaten by someone else for feck eye!

Anyone get the feeling that, so far, ASS reads like Jesus visiting the disciples after his death (only beforehand, obvs)?

Superman Purple = Superman Red + Blue. Definitely.

I'll put a coin in the "I thought Calvin was Lex" box. P'haps down to Frank's range of male facial limits + the influence of Smallville/Mark Waid's Birthright.

Supermyx is called Kllzzznt Klzzynmxppyxk. The 5D-ese version of Clark Kent. Love it.

Speculation: Does Leo being a spiritual opposite of Lex go further than that? How did Lex smuggle I AM DEATH!! onto the Ray Bradbury anyway? Could he be Lex's son? Clone? Remember Lex saying "I have friends in high places". We're thinking Solaris but... as high as the Moon? Who would Leo look like if you shaved him?

Do we get an issue where Clark visits an older than we've seen Martha? How does Clark break the news to his mother (who's already lost one superman in her lifetime) that he's not going to outlive her?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:31 / 10.01.07
I'll put a coin in the "I thought Calvin was Lex" box. P'haps down to Frank's range of male facial limits + the influence of Smallville/Mark Waid's Birthright.

Lex was also important to the Superboy mythos originally; Superboy made his hair fall out - I almost wondered if we were going to see the initial incident that led all the way up to Lex signing Clark's death sentence in the here-and-now.

There was something very...Ray Bradbury...about that opening scene, as well. The slightly alien vibe to Kansas, the weird menace that culminated with Kal's arrival, and I think that contributed. Really it's just the shadow of Pa's death but if you read it fresh it could go in many directions.

Supermyx is called Kllzzznt Klzzynmxppyxk. The 5D-ese version of Clark Kent. Love it.

Supermyx and his five-dimensional shield is brill. His little levitating hat. I see him being defeated if you make him spell K-R-Y-P-T-O-N-I-T-E backwards. AND, the subtle implication is that through him, the Superman line eliminates that pesky allergy to magic. Although I suspect there may be several divergent lines extending out from Clark what with multiple children and all. I would have killed to see Quitely doing one of the OMAC Superboys from One Million.

Speculation: Does Leo being a spiritual opposite of Lex go further than that? How did Lex smuggle I AM DEATH!! onto the Ray Bradbury anyway? Could he be Lex's son? Clone? Remember Lex saying "I have friends in high places". We're thinking Solaris but... as high as the Moon? Who would Leo look like if you shaved him?

Oh, I can totally see this! But I don't want it to be true. I like Leo as the ultra-positive reflection of Lex. But, still, good theory.

Do we get an issue where Clark visits an older than we've seen Martha? How does Clark break the news to his mother (who's already lost one superman in her lifetime) that he's not going to outlive her?

Is Martha still alive? I was never very sure if she really survived Pa by much time. I could see them as one of those couples that goes quietly, one after the other. I would like more Martha, of course, as the Super-Mother is typically forgotten in the mythos (look at Martha in Returns as that mostly-silent figure who appears then disappears like the film's lost spirit, and Lara was always ignored for the jazzier-uniformed Jor-El) before the Kents were brought back post-Crisis.
 
 
Triplets
02:10 / 10.01.07
I like Leo as the ultra-positive reflection of Lex.

Same here! I can't help thinking there's going to be more interplay between them towards the end. Good or bad.

Is Martha still alive? I was never very sure if she really survived Pa by much time. I could see them as one of those couples that goes quietly, one after the other. I would like more Martha, of course, as the Super-Mother is typically forgotten in the mythos

We haven't been told she's dead have we? I'd like more Martha too beyond the woman Pa Kent was married to.

It would explain Clark's super-attraction to Lois, though. With the absent/quiet mother figures in his life she's like nothing he's really come across before. As strong and sexy to Clark as Superman is to humans.

Although I suspect there may be several divergent lines extending out from Clark what with multiple children and all.

Deffo. 85,000 years and you're going to sire a lot of kids.

Speaking of which, this issue was totally the "I won't live to see my grandchildren grow up!" issue and how supermanity gets round that. Already we're seeing Clark's innate Superman-ness cheat death itself (including beating quantum death in issue #3).



So, we've seen quite of a lot of the population of Clark's world. Who else? We still have the All-Star JLA, the Krypton posse (Jor, Lara, Zod etc), Bizarros are coming up... Supergirl? Superboy?

I was thinking, Leo wants to build a second Superman, right? But Clark's alive to right the article about Superman's death and we also see Superman Gold this issue. What if...

Superman gets all the solar obesity sucked out of him becoming mortal Clark. However, beforehand Leo manages to clone him giving us All-Star Superboy. AS Superboy, with his truebred Kryptonian genes grows up to be the Superman we know as Superman Gold. Thus we get Clark growing up to become a father, teaching Pa's lessons to the new Superman/Superbaby.

And, yes, I would have killed for an mohawked Superboy Million.
 
 
Triplets
02:12 / 10.01.07
BTW, I know deep down with Superman Gold's clunky "this was one of... one of YOUR superfeats" dialogue that he has to be Clark. Let me dream!
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
02:41 / 10.01.07
I'm still suspecting that the SUPERMAN DEAD! tabloid fiasco is going to turn out to be a dummy copy that will never actually be published. And I really want Supergirl to rocket to Earth at the end and start the story over again. Or something.

We need us some Justice League, some Legion (even if only in passing). As someone said, Brainiac. Although he showed up as a pseudo-cameo in the Fortress, along with the Toyman mention. I want my Perry White issue! He's a Clark-father too!

Speaking of which, this issue was totally the "I won't live to see my grandchildren grow up!" issue and how supermanity gets round that. Already we're seeing Clark's innate Superman-ness cheat death itself (including beating quantum death in issue #3).

Supermanity cheats everything. Total Houdini from Krypton. Great way of looking at the issue too! We get Clark wanting to settle down with Lois and tell her all his secrets ("But I've been chasing you for years and eventually a girl has to give up and you're a jerk, anyway!"). Interesting that Clark's concerned about his death and Lois can't look at their relationship without having worries about her mortality in comparison to his immortality. We've had Clark's younger generation - Jimmy's his best pal and he'll be his own Mister Action when he's older. Compare the ending of #5 and the dog line to the death of Ted Knight and the Mist in Robinson's Starman.
 
 
Mug Chum
02:54 / 10.01.07
Very true about how we haven't seen yet by issue 6 Superman laying out a punch. I thought of many reasons for each occasion, but issue 3 has in my particular viewing the best one. And there's also the -- what it seemed to me, younger -- overtly soldier-like Superman of A.D. 853,500 that fights young Superman. "You can't resist me", and stuff. Both sound extremely foolish in each of their eagerness and measuring powers around (though YoungSups seems more chilled with the almost-joke "But I have my dog"). Just like the insecure black kryptonite Superman from #4.

Yeah, Chronovore's threat seems only thematic and goes a longer distance than simply "we must stop it". It's basically what I think was YoungClark's defeat and AllStarSups' victory, as one yells to the other to "let go" (as one of them too youngly overenthusiastic trying to pull the chains on time itself -- and for that very reason losing three minutes; while the other gets to, literally or not, Meet His Father/ find accordance with his father's spirit, essence, memory or his Will etc). Each "Labor" (almost one step in, as said before, fixing up the house. Always brings me to those 12 Steps of the A.A.) seems like knowing which fight is good, worth it, and which fight is about not fighting/"fighting". A very personal and intimate sweet story about a man attending to his own garden. Still think though that some labors is about the reader's own journey and choices in his reading as well (like filling the blanks on "how they 'won' over Chronovore", for instance).

The themes of surrendering, being open, vulnerable, of acceptance, of friendship, invitingly reaching out to people. A*Superman seems like about being taoisticly a Cup instead of a masturbational male power fantasy games of the Lance ("Superman is a dick" when a insecure alien with huge key, and demeaning and trying to bully all others -- Lois, Jimmy etc -- to second banana).

Basically I see it as a purging of all the stories, motifs, myths, subtexts and symbols of male "adolescence" in grimgrittyness and basically all things around it to play with what's more important and fun about Superman and stories overall, without falling prey to simplistic weakly critique.

(while I write this, I just read in a comic blog news that Marvel will put out a gritty rusty-spiked S&M Spawn-like character whose name sounds a bit too much like... well, his name is "Penance". I might buy those issues just to see those Marvel's type of dramatic "big speech balloons for just red-bold name" on some main character's yelling in mid-battle, just so I can try to imagine what's on people's head around that character. Ok, drunken wondering gone too far beyond pertinent point).

It's really satisfying to read each comic. Cheesy but true sentence: I was pretty much convinced for a few years I'd never get a better reading on the subject (or a better comic) than Flex Mentallo (well, this is almost a direct sequence in my view).

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(on another note, was reading #1 again. I just noticed how blowhard dramaqueen Lex says "I'm reaching critical MASS" while in that psychotic MESS of a room. Don't know why, just thought it was cute)
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
03:07 / 10.01.07
Sparrow: Each "Labor" (almost one step in, as said before, fixing up the house. Always brings me to those 12 Steps of the A.A.) seems like knowing which fight is good, worth it, and which fight is about not fighting/"fighting".

One of the Herculean labours was about cleaning out those horrible stables (and changing the course of a mighty river to do so!), and I think this whole process that Clark is going through is a meta-labour -- the emotional house-keeping of the House Called Superman (different from the House of El).

(on another note, was reading #1 again. I just noticed how blowhard dramaqueen Lex says "I'm reaching critical mass" while in that psychotic mess of a room. Don't know why, just thought it was cute)

For Lex, Superman's Death is Lex's Sex. This Lex Luthor is the queen of drama queens, oh yes, declaring his love for Attila the Hun at every turn. Boys and their toys. Lex is the Lance and this Superman is the Cup. Lex could be the sexy adolescent power fantasy if only he could get rid of Superman, who does it so effortlessly and serenely...
 
 
FinderWolf
03:21 / 10.01.07
>> Is Martha still alive? I was never very sure if she really survived Pa by much time.

Martha Kent has been alive in every and all incarnations of Supes since Byrne brought the Kent's back in the late 1980s. Both Kent parents have been very much alive til this recent "let's have Pa die like he did in Superman: The Movie" trend in the All-Star 'world' and coming soon in the mainstream DCU. I predict Martha will stay with us for a good long while (she's alive in all the Superman films too).
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
03:24 / 10.01.07
I was more thinking the Golden/Silver aged Marthas, I know she's still around otherwise. I seem to recall the Sixties Superman was sans parents entirely, not just Pa.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
04:13 / 10.01.07
Is that Superboy Prime on the holy trinity of Supermen at the very end next to Golden Superman?

I was referring to the Superboy of Earth-Prime actually, and taking a bit of a piss-take on DC's Post-Second Crisis rules on continuity glitches. Meh.

And yes, it wasn't until after the original Crisis that Ma and Pa Kent were brought back from the grave. Their deaths are what led Superboy to leave Smallville and go to Metropolis. He had a big going away party and everything. There was a giant cake.

No, seriously.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
04:16 / 10.01.07
The sad thing is, I can't not believe there'd be a giant cake.

Anyway, my point was that if we're assuming we're on Earth-One (or similar), Martha's probably dead as well by this point. But it's up in the air.

As an aside, the only Martha Kent I don't like is the one from the Legion cartoon, who feels the need to remind her son that he's "not like the rest of us" whenever he leaves the house.
 
 
LDones
06:06 / 10.01.07
>>There was a giant cake.
>>No, seriously.

 
 
Mug Chum
06:49 / 10.01.07
giant cake (giggles)...

Papers, that was explicit enough to scar my brain so I'll never be able to read that "climax"/critical mass again without dirty thoughts. =( I was even managing to hold them off after hearing that Clark and Lex's obsessive relationship in "Smallville" was close on duplicating Ben-Hur and Messalah and it was responsible for the internet term "HoYay".

Another thought on the same scene, it always had this weird alienated chaos-magick ritual sounding for me (especially after seeing that ad right after for some book on "teh prince of darkness and dark hell" or what have you), Lex doing his thing at a far-distance, with a (perhaps symbolic) baseball bat, in a psychotic red lighting and huge mess, meddling into the outers to kill off the Sun God, or obtain his powers(status) by doing so. Don't think I ever mentioned this before, but that was the first thing it came to my mind when I read the word "mass" since it's climax was the spawning of Superman (I thought it was in a ritualistic sense -- in a way, it is very much so like that, but don't know if Morrison intended the similarities. Only thought he could have after reading his intentions on the Arkham Asylum script structure on masses and churches' venues as this micro-structure journey for the macrocosmos union, and crossroads of cosmic center etc). And it makes sense to me, if considering Lex as a temporary fiction-suit for Morrison to create the challenge, ignite the fire, pull the trigger on the plot (and seeing bald Lex's initial role as creator-of-storyteller-machine/ almost the storyteller himself in #5 -- and using it to create a non-used escape, decoding his way out of his narrative fate. "Moby Dick at frequencies so high": symbolic motifs so obvious you can get around it? Traceable obvious patterns etc). Seemed somehow normal that the used plot device -- Lex meddling with Sun-Superman in redroom -- would be so in key with, perhaps, Morrison's method of writing ("going in"). Equating his own stance with Lex's, maybe (temporarily, at least. Means to an end).

I remember from that "Pop Magick" Grant saying (very vaguely paraphrasing; haven't read it in years), "if you want to call in Flash, throw papers and Flash comics all around your room and walls as if the mess were the little arcane symbols on the Goethia's circle, drink RedBull etc". Similar to Lex's room. Sometimes I see these little signs of meta-cosmic-narrative on A*S as well. Not only on your usual higher clever meta from Morrison, but on that coherent line of meta-cosmic-magick sense from Invisibles and 7Soldiers.

Am I the only one tripping this bad in here?
 
 
Quantum
10:40 / 10.01.07
Lex is the Lance and this Superman is the Cup.

Ah, so my first thought when I saw the cover to issue five *wasn't* just me.



My prison parlance might be rusty, but there it looks like Lex is the butch and Clark is his bitch.
 
 
Triplets
14:15 / 10.01.07
I love Clark's super-chef hat. Perfect.

Anyway, my point was that if we're assuming we're on Earth-One (or similar),

Nrrr. As people have already said, deciding we're on Earth Whichever is a doomed fruit. It's outside of the DC multiverse and, yet, at it's heart. It's hypertime in it's purest form.

I'm still suspecting that the SUPERMAN DEAD! tabloid fiasco is going to turn out to be a dummy copy that will never actually be published.

Mmm. Especially as we see Lois "writes the Superman news before it happens".

I want my Perry White issue! He's a Clark-father too!

Too be honest, I'm the complete opposite. After this issue with Pa I don't think any more needs to be said about the Clark-father!

Jimmy's his best pal and he'll be his own Mister Action when he's older

A lot of this series has been about how Clark empowers others. He makes Lois Superwoman, he forces Jim to become Doomsday... for a day! He's given Quintum the basis for his bizarro-clones through his DNA. The Superman Squad, springing directly from Clark's loins.

Actually, shit. Superwoman, Doomsday, Q-Bizarros, Superman Squad: they're all directly from Clark's genes aren't they. He's a lantern-jawed Galatea.

He lands on the Earth-egg like a metal sperm and 30 years later you can see his face in everything. Clark as the ultimate male fertility figure.
 
 
Mug Chum
14:31 / 10.01.07
>>> Clark as the ultimate fertility figure.

Yeah, this might sound a bit too much like idolizing his loins, but very true. No wonder Lois own belt is in the form of eggs.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
14:37 / 10.01.07
Sun gods typically have fertility aspects, don't they? Make the crops grow and it's warmer out with them around -- more opportunity for nudity (or the almost-nudity of supersuits). That's a fairly incisive point I hadn't thought about - easily glossed over, maybe, but it's certainly the basis for Lex's absolute zero hatred of the Big Man and his tights. Clark is this infection, this cuckoo, raised on Earthling soil but not of this Earth, but his crushing contagion just spreads and spreads...
 
  

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