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All-Star Superman

 
  

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The Falcon
13:24 / 10.09.06
I don't think that's Jamie's work. Didn't he say he was off after #5, or am I misremembering?

I've no recollection of this, so I think you are.
 
 
The Falcon
13:27 / 10.09.06
Ah, here, Jamie says he's no' colouring covers after #4, so yer right about the cover to #7 I guess.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:12 / 10.09.06
Good lord. That cover is beautiful. That cover am ugly, no indeedy!

Superman versus Bizarro: Metropolis versus the Dark Doppleganger Reversed Flash Syndrome. Mummudrai and such.
 
 
Jamie Grant
21:41 / 10.09.06
Falconator, the covers are indeed 100% FQ now that he's mutated and manifested his full on photoshop powers. Nurse! Nurse! The screens!!
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
01:24 / 11.09.06
whoa, will FQ hand you the pages already digitally inked, Jamie?

finally, the bizarro invasion! our man biz sure looks a bit like a zombie, or mcfarlane's version of the hulk.

but wasn't it supposed to be like the bizarro planet colliding with earth rather than a viral infection?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:38 / 11.09.06
It's probably something in the middle; there's a long way to go between initial pitch and finished comic. I like the idea of Htrae colliding with Earth or invading with thousands of Bizarros pouring over to eradicate their forward-thinking counterparts...a pro-active Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
 
 
bio k9
03:12 / 11.09.06
Anyone else think that the Parasite might have something to do with the cure for Solar Overload?

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Yeah.
 
 
Mug Chum
03:49 / 11.09.06
you're a cool dude, dead.

Funny, I'm curious to see where Morrison was heading with this. I hope the Parasie won't suck the overload. And I'm hoping Sups won't just end up powerless or just dead and that's it (altough I could see a few twists and turns from GM that could made it work, and was hoping for something to do with Superwoman, future generations, Blessing-Unified-Rising Sun VS Cancerous-Vampyre-Dark Sun, Death=ScaryBeggining and Flex-Mentalloish schemes. Anything but simple -- or just simple, but simple as the sun). But I am excited that this could be a "closed book" like Dark Knight, and Superman CAN end up dead if GM wants to kill him.

Is anyone else getting this impression that the "dead"/"dying"/"overcharged" Superman could also be symbolic to that whole talk of "too powerful" (so perfect that's killing him). Morrison made it clear that he doesn't share that line of thought, but it feels like there's some conscious playing on that at times (I'm about to start a blog for each issue on this series. This is my fave piece of media-culture this year. Too good on too many criterias).

-- JAMIE, you're not doing covers, but you're still on until #12, right?
(just say yes, man)

ps: is Atlas's minipenis erect when Superman is giving Sansom the grief? (Sure there's a lot of jokes on the desire of man-on-man action in this issue, but if that was intentional, rich! This is topnotch Arrested Development type of humour, goddamn! Even the thematic "reptilian-territorial-conflict" = HOT is played right, vulcanic red (S) hot but we should be ice-cold cool, being Superman. If there was some mention of "Hot Ice" when Superman gives them "the crazy angry red eyes", I think I'd pee myself)
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
04:07 / 11.09.06
I'm hoping next issue's Smallville visit includes an appearance by Lana Lang. On the one hand I'm hoping for a Silver Age Lana-Lois chick-fight of steel, but on the other hand I'm hoping that the "grown up Silver Age" Lana has moved on with her life and made something of herself. The cover suggests Krypto, and Ma Kent should be around, plus solicits suggest Mister Mxy shows up. I like the way the series is rocketing through the supporting cast - building them up to be as important as Kal to the legend of Superman. I'd also love to see a FQ Legion of Super-Heroes, possibly as part of Kal reminiscing about his adventures as Superboy, but that may be asking too much.

Superman dying in the end - maybe. Maybe Clark gives up the power - all of it - to save himself for a change, and decides to save the world as Clark Kent, ace reporter. Supergirl shows up and saves the day? Lois gets the powers full-throttle? Or maybe this will end in a world where the world's greatest hero is a white dog in a red cape. The headline suggests a Superman 2 power removal and I can't actually see GM killing Kal in this. Passing on the legacy, sure, bring Metropolis into a Brave New World, sure...

This comic is the only comic I really cover regularly on my blog, too. I'm loving it.

The Justice League is, from what I remember of the initial solicits, going to show up during the Bizarro Invasion, with the Bizarro League showing up. Excited about that.
 
 
Mug Chum
04:42 / 11.09.06
If Mxy is showing up, I'm thinking there'll be a father-son moment even possibly as a "ghost"-tulpa thingy or time-traveling (like those SilverAge plots where Kal meets his Kryptonian father etc), some crazy way that Kal can be reunited with his dead father -- not only by becoming him, but perhaps in a more ilustrative and plotwise manner than just flashbacks, memories and interiorized action. Which I'm thinking it'll be the "theme" somehow, the old tale that you only become your own man when you bury-become-reach your father (I believe GM has mentioned this, "Superboy became Superman when his dad died" or something), the old oedipal case in every plot in the world.

Seems like it will play on the old 'daddy issues' theme. The sort of theme you see on bank ads, "How did he do it-this? How will I handle it? I've spent my entire life trying to not be like him, and now I've become him/ want nothing else but to be able to be like him" etc etc

Concerning the ending-death/'death', can't quite imagine Morrison doing the same thing Millar and Moore did. Funny thing is that the story so far welcomes such ending big time (Millar's and Moore's endings had that touch of "they'll be fine-better by themselves"/ "one falls, one rises" that A*S seems to share and Flex Mentallo shared as well).
 
 
Jamie Grant
09:25 / 11.09.06
Hector, FQ hands me each page as he pencils. I scan, contrast and digi-ink before the colouring. Sha*am Sparrow, nae worries, am up for the colouring until the final curtain.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
09:41 / 11.09.06
Jamie, I've got a technical question - Is the digi-inking a separate process from colouring, or do the two processes cross over a little?
 
 
Jamie Grant
11:42 / 11.09.06
Dan Fish,

Digi-inking 'n' colouring are separate, yes, but good to have a hand in both. ...it's worth taking time to digi-ink thoroughly - makes for a better page.

I digi-ink each page 3 times. Thin line version (for fine detail), an average one and a thick line version (for FQ's finer lines to show up). Stack them as 3 layers like a trple decker GM/FQ sandwhich, cutting away where the detail's too heavy on the top layer to reveal finer digi-inks below. Doing this since We3.

Been asked to digi-ink other projects as if I've got some kind of secret mystical GM magic that turns pencil lines into quality ink ala FQ. *Ha!* Nae chance! FQ's pages are cleanest originals I've ever handled.

Other artist's pencils when tried for digi-inking have tended to turn out thin and scratchy - in this case the artists needed to approach drawing with clearer solid lines rather than a wash of developmental sketch lines. With those jobs I spent too much time not knowing what details were desired or not and eventually passed all other digi-ink work up. But with FQ it's always super clean and distinct.

Colouring... I do all my own 'flats' (solid colour areas) so they are super-tight and pixel-purrrrfect. Very occasionally, I'll ask a pal to flat a few at the end of a book when the dropdeadline's close but generally I like to handle the whole process (and take full blame for it! LOL).

It has to look good just at the basic flat stage before I begin to embellish the panels with tints, tones and textures, following the light sources and their shadows.

I know so little about Photoshop, only how to lay down shade and colour. From the comics I see every month, I know there's terrific colouring talent out there with loads of filters and tricks that'd do this series as well if not better.

Ah well, best be getting back to these first pages of #6 - or they'll think I've lost control again, and put it down to de-evolution!
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
12:38 / 11.09.06
Thanks!
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
14:39 / 11.09.06
I really liked the kind of chubby, slouching Clark Kent in this issue, it worked really well considering the amount of time Luthor has spent with Superman. If Clark was the same heigt and build, I would imagine Lex's super IQ would somehow see around the glasses.
 
 
Henningjohnathan
16:18 / 11.09.06
Definitely agree that this characterization of Clark was just plain great. It also felt like Clark didn't even know that he was Superman. That all that super-rescue was more like a manifestation of the unconscious rather than intentional.

I'm surprised at how much subtle detail gets packed into these single-issue "folk tale" stories.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
18:39 / 11.09.06
If Clark was the same heigt and build, I would imagine Lex's super IQ would somehow see around the glasses.

Isn't that the point of this story though? That Superman's standing in front of Lex the whole time and Luthor, for all his grand-standing can't see through the oldest and simplest trick in the book?
 
 
John Octave
19:10 / 11.09.06
Not to mention that he takes his glasses off, moves up to six inches from Lex's nose, and yells at him, but Lex still can't (won't?) see through it even when SuperClark demands that he "Think straight!" and figure out that Superman and Clark aren't really as different as he's always assumed.

It's a wonderful "All those powers, and I couldn't even save him" bit. Superman can save Luthor's life in prison a dozen times, but when he asks Luthor to save his own, he refuses. I was touched at how genuinely desperate Superman was to save Lex, how concerned he was at the impending death of the archenemy of mankind ("You'll die like a mad dog in the yard!"). Trying to redeem the irredeemable man. That's how you give Superman a challenge, not by powering him down so that maybe a big robot can kill him.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
19:17 / 11.09.06
Well yeah, that is kind of the point. Clark presents as so NOT superman that the glasses only become another part of the disguise. When he took the glasses off and got in Lex's face he was still being Clark, if he had said "Lex, the folly of your ways will lead to your death!" and puffed his chest out Lex would know in an instant.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
19:19 / 11.09.06
Octave: I was touched at how genuinely desperate Superman was to save Lex, how concerned he was at the impending death of the archenemy of mankind ("You'll die like a mad dog in the yard!"). Trying to redeem the irredeemable man. That's how you give Superman a challenge, not by powering him down so that maybe a big robot can kill him.

You know, I hadn't thought of it like that. That's beautiful and I hope-hope-hope this alludes to a ending scenario where Superman "dies" - Kal hangs up the cape, integrates Superman and Clark, maybe walks off into the Earthset with Lois after she gets some therapy to undo the years of psychological damage he's done her, maybe gives Jimmy that one good tumble he needs - because he is up to the challenge, in the end, and the world doesn't need Superman because Lex Luthor finally turns his mind over from fascistic world domination plans to use his "ideals for society" (as shown on Stryker's Island) to make the world better as a human for humans. Superman gives up his powers so that Clark can live and Lex is the heir. Marriage of opposites.

Maybe Lex bonds with Bizarro Luthor and HATE becomes LOVE.

Or maybe that's too cute.
 
 
Henningjohnathan
20:46 / 11.09.06
Well, you have hit upon a very interesting solution to the Superman problem. If his powers are killing him then take away his powers (Gold Kryptonite?). This leaves Clark, the normal human, as the sole personality - and it makes sense since so far there have been implications about whether Superman thinks that the Clark Kent personality is "real" or not (made very apparent in the Fortress of Solitude "Mirror" scene).
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:30 / 11.09.06
The mirror scene at the Fortress can be read several ways. Bear with me, most of them are sort of the same point from a different angle, but what the emphasis is could change.

One: Kal is the proper personality, Clark is a construct -- a fiction suit he constructed when he moved away from Smallville; moving is a way of changing self sometimes. An opportunity.

Two: as much as Clark tries to hide himself behind mild-manneredness, he's still essentially one person, and the values that he holds dear and espouses are the same regardless of whether or not he has a cape on. Basically: sure, he comes off as timid most of the time, but look at his response to Luthor in the end of #5, the genuine anger at the wasted potential. The mirror scene emphasizes that the mannerisms are the illusion, not the person; Clark = Kal.

Three: well, obviously for all his playacting at Clark, Kal is super-powerful and the slouched posture and the fake fat to make him appear as Clark doesn't change the powers and strength inherent in his body.

Four: given the context of the issue and his feelings for Lois, essentially Clark and Superman are the same person and both in love with Lois for the same reasons and any split between them is utterly superficial. If you think about it, this series has rendered Kal immune to most types of kryptonite - possibly that includes Red K, one of the more famous effects being that it once in comics and once in the movies split him into Evil Clark and Good Kal. Black kryptonite has no splitting effect, it doesn't relate to its Smallville incarnation, it just releases the anger, despair, atrophied anxieties and death-fear inside Kal. He's as mortal as anyone else, merely long-lived. It reminded me of a scene late in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon where Kal's in the middle of fighting Darkseid and thanking him for the opportunity to stop holding back, because he lives in a world of cardboard.

Basically, all of that is two readings: either Clark is an illusion and Kal is actually Superman, or there's no esssential difference between the two of them and they're more integrated than, say, Batman and Bruce Wayne.

I have absolutely no idea if that made any sense.
 
 
The Falcon
23:02 / 11.09.06
No, it does, wrt integrated persona - there's a scene near the end of... is it the 'Elseworlds' issue with Connor Hawke Green Arrow of JLA, where Bruce reacts kinda diffidently to being called Bruce when in his cozzie but conversely calls Supes 'Clark' immediately thereafter. 'Hhh... Clark', as I recall. So it's definitely in keeping with the cosMo(zz)logy of the two.

D'you know - I only just (like, the other day) got Lois' reaction in #2 when Kal Kent appears on the futuroscope: 'Kent, huh?', obviously still disbelieving that they are one and same. But then, I am quite stupid sometimes.

Anyway, ropey start, this - I thought - but after two consecutive really good issues on the trot, and the first odd #'d one I've unhesitantly felt, it really does seem to be coming together into something quite lovely. The characterisation of Clark/Kal has been a pretty delicate act from the off, balancing the inherent whitebreadedness with an offset of - I dunno - the blase to keep it from getting stale, and here seeing what he has to be like to get in about the muck, emotionally far less... ethereal; it's the hands dirty journalism Perry was eulogising only two months ago, ya know?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:22 / 11.09.06
Falcon: D'you know - I only just (like, the other day) got Lois' reaction in #2 when Kal Kent appears on the futuroscope: 'Kent, huh?', obviously still disbelieving that they are one and same. But then, I am quite stupid sometimes.

That's still one of my favourite scenes in #2, actually, partly because she's looking at Kal Kent and seeing him as part of the practical joke - which is odd that she uses the time telescope later on to talk to the Unknown Superman and believes him, which suggests that she thinks that the One Million Superman is in on Kal-El's "gag" rather than him being a fake - but also because she doesn't realize that Kal Kent is her own descendent. Which is an offhanded moment but it builds right into Lois's monologue while she's getting ready for dinner and wondering about how fucked up their hypothetical marriage would be.

Would have been nice to see Laurel Kent in there somewhere as well, actually - she was the Super(wo)man of the 30th Century, after all, and that could have dovetailed into #3's Superwoman adventure.

WRT to Clark's outburst in #5, it occurs to me that while we're always focused on Clark as being the mild disguise for Kal to hide behind, he's actually the disguise that gives Kal the benefit of human reactions - he's allowed to (presumably, off-panel) say, oh, swear and cuss when he gets angry because sure Ma Kent didn't raise him to have a potty-mouth but everybody has moments. Sure, he has to be careful to be meek and understated and blase (good point, Falc) but he's also allowed to react in certain emotional ways that Superman is usually inhibited from because of his super-hero status. That's what strikes me about the line about dying like a dog...I don't know that Kal as Superman could get away with saying that; it'd almost seem out of character. Which is taking the reverse take from the integrated idea, but it relates.
 
 
iamus
03:13 / 12.09.06
Basically, all of that is two readings: either Clark is an illusion and Kal is actually Superman, or there's no esssential difference between the two of them and they're more integrated than, say, Batman and Bruce Wayne.

I kinda go with the second reading but a bit differently, in that Kal and Clark are different, but neither are the dominant personality, they're both critical parts of the character. The Super and the Man.

When Clark is Clark he is Clark. Jonathon and Martha Kent's son from Smallville. It's an essential part of how he identifies as a Human and relates to those about him. Experiencing life from a grassroots level, understanding why people feel trapped and frustrated and powerless.

Kal is like the spirit of Clark, the bit that's able to fly out of the body and set to right all those things you'd normally feel powerless against. He's totally unbound. Impervious and unbreakable. He's the ultimate potential of the human animal. To me, Superman ain't Super cause he can fly and move mountains. That's just a side-effect of his true Supernature which is and his unwavering Will and perfect altruism.

Lex is rabid in his desire to kill Kal, but confides in Clark and shows warmth and even respect. Similarly, as Kal he can fly into the Stratosphere and be omnipotent and omniscient, as Clark he can go right to the macro level and experience life with the blinkers on (I reckon Superman would love Spore). Standing amidst it like a rock or a reed in a stream. Living with the chest out or with the chest in.

What I liked about this issue is that it really highlights why Superman and Lex Luthor are such perfectly matched adversaries. Even when neither has a full picture of what's going on they're still playing an incredibly multi-layered game, fighting against and with each other at the same time.

Kal goes in as Clark to get under Lex's skin and try to save him from himself. Lex is manipulating Clark to try and use him against himself. Lex is demonstrating what makes Human beings super, and Clark is demonstrating what makes Superbeings human. Clark saves Lex from the Parasite and Lex saves Clark from the Parasite. And though Lex might look like a total idiot by having Superman under his nose the whole time and not realising it, he still holds a majority of the board because thanks to him, Superman is dying anyway.

Couple of random thoughts...

Superman is Lex's dread of his own mortality made flesh. The thing that stops him from realising his goals and something that'll still be around long after he's dust. Being human he responds to it by lashing out. He wants to acheive immortality by destroying the symbolic figurehead of his eventual death.

Whatshername, Lex's neice plays that role for Superman. Lex might die along with him, but his spirit lives on in her. And she's younger (And younger and younger. And younger. Did I mention younger?).

That last vaginal panel. Fear of death on Clark's face. The process of death as being born into something else. A Morrison Theme™. The River Styx is also the Birth Canal, and he's being ferried across by his own personal Charon, the spiritual successor of Luthor, who embodies sex as much as she does death.

Experiencing death is the key to truly understanding Humanity. Even jumping in fright in full-on Human Clark mode, he still knocks a weight bench with enough force to almost topple it. He has to face this and pass through it. It's his Abyss (without the watery aliens).

Next issue it looks like he's back home, getting to grips with this by way of his Father. The Bizarro stuff also looks the mottled, wrinkled, decaying part. Think there's any chance of the Sweetie-bright immortality of the beginning shifting as the book swings into the second half? A la Vol. 2 of the Invisibles?
 
 
Jared Louderback
04:32 / 12.09.06
I was really expecting to not like this ish, for some reason GM takes villians I really like and writes them in ways I don't like. But damn, he totally captured the best of the best of Lex Luthor, not the crazy guy who builds robots and drinks kyponite potions and turns all the planets lead into glass, but Lex the humanitarian, Lex who sees Superman as an obstacle to the growth of humanity. It's too easy to just write Lex off as a power hungry jerk who just wants superman out of the way so he can take over. I always think of him as a sort of whacked out futurist who thinks humanity is becoming just a little too dependant on some alien.
 
 
Mug Chum
08:15 / 12.09.06
I love barbelith. This are the type of discussions this forum had me hooked.

iamus, you just made my week busier with this to read again and again. Gold! Gold! (imagine it sounding like that Seinfeld's coleague).

And Jared hit a sensitive spot. How's GM treating humanity's dependence on their umbilical big daddy-bro? Little bit I could notice was in #3, the Daily Planet workers all too blazé at what was a mini-911 (only mini 'cause Supers showed up). I'm sure I read somewhere Morrison talking about it (something in the lines of "he helps humanity get up when they fall" or something like that. But it sounds more like what he means to us -- and to his people -- than how he functions in his world).

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Someone mentioned earlier the "Kent, huh?" bit from Lois in #2. Funny thing is that many things in this series I too notice in a matter of "just the other day" (in the firsts readings I usually get about 40% of what I have today as my current 'complete' grasp). I thought that line was some comment from Lois about Super-Clark/'Clark' having sons and so forth, like "oh? His grandma must have been a hell of a gal..." type of thing (I felt the comic never had to verbalize, but that was a sexual consciousness in all that dynamic somehow).

(ps: Just reread #4, and this was one of "the other day". Adding to my theory of "Jimmy-Projector fiction-suit travelling between reality and fiction" thingy I noticed something else, "The Gipsy Curse". This is a guy who "can't tell who he is one day to the other" and does a column about being-projecting-fictionsuiting different people every day! Freakin' awesome! And that's without mentioning Jimmy "SolarGod" costume in the manequin, his picture with the straight-jacket, the poking at bad-dressed and homeless-bum ("bronze medal"), America's sweetheart, Jimmy's own erection with Quitum and Quitum's toilet comment which I'm taking as a seriously jab of "I offered a wank to ya!" and Jimmy's lovely response)

(goddamn, I got get that blog running. One for each issue. No less)
 
 
Mario
11:49 / 12.09.06
I'm suddenly reminded of a story about the Buddha. He didn't reach enlightenment until he saw four things:

An old crippled man, a diseased man, a decaying corpse, and finally an ascetic.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
13:50 / 12.09.06
Sparrow: And that's without mentioning Jimmy "SolarGod" costume in the manequin, his picture with the straight-jacket, the poking at bad-dressed and homeless-bum ("bronze medal"), America's sweetheart, Jimmy's own erection with Quitum and Quitum's toilet comment which I'm taking as a seriously jab of "I offered a wank to ya!" and Jimmy's lovely response.

A lot of which highlights his sidekick status - "SolarGod" Jimmy = Flamebird = Robin to Superman's Kandorian Batman, or his status as third most important character (he gets the bronze medal while Lois gets the silver). This Jimmy is more symbolically, permanently Elastic Lad - stretching in any given direction for a little while (insanity, superheroics, et cetera) before snapping right back to his baseline.

Quintum is the Lex Luthor who sees Superman as a useful and important part of society, rather than apart from it.

I'm wondering if the Bizarro Plague isn't going to be a Htrae invasion but rather some sort of accident with P.R.O.J.E.C.T., given all the yammering about their Bizarro Worker Drones...I'm betting they've got Bizarro #1 locked up somewhere in the depths of the moon and something bad is going to happen.
 
 
Henningjohnathan
14:33 / 12.09.06
Another interesting aspect to Clark is something I've heard from other people talking about the character. He's not just mild-mannered but he's "super" mild-mannered. The fact is that if Clark was ever put into a position where he has to fight or flee, then he'd have to flee or use his powers to invisibly disarm the aggressor. He could never "stand up" to anyone, not simply because that would blow his "cover" but he could do serious damage just from taking a punch.

His bumbling, super-sensitive and flinching behavior could be a direct result of his having to be extremely careful not to accidentally become a bull in a China Shop since everything around him, including concrete and steel, is comparatively as fragile as glass and tissue paper.
 
 
Henningjohnathan
14:43 / 12.09.06
And a quick comment, I like the post that Quintum is a Lex Luthor that accepts Superman. At the same time, he seems a little more isolated and both less human and passionate than Lex. Equally narcissistic in some ways. It may be that to me, Quintum sees Superman as a phenomenon to be exploited, whereas Lex really "cares" about Superman (in an evil and adversarial way, of course).
 
 
FinderWolf
17:03 / 12.09.06
Great point/idea about Clark's delicate-ness (not really a word I suppose) as 'bull in a China shop'...I never really heard/saw that perspective before. It's not just a 'nerd act for the sake of throwing off suspicion.'

And I do hope FQ draws the rest of the Justice League and we see Bizarro versions of each member. It'll be like JLA: Earth 2 all over again! A visual feast of Quitely DCU Big Seven!
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:17 / 12.09.06
This discussion is so dense (in a good way!) and super-charged I feel I need to put aside hours to engage with it, let alone add to it, but just a single note about this issue, which I only bought today: the drawn-on eyebrow and the Superman swoop are both an echo of Morrison's "Dare" with Rian Hughes, where Dan D has his distinctive eyebrow pencilled-in and enhanced by a make-up lady.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:22 / 12.09.06
Also it's been mentioned above but I don't think expanded on: the losing powers motif made me think of the post-Crisis changes in Superman, with (if I'm right) Byrne's reboot bringing the character down from a demigod who could juggle planets to someone who was incredibly strong but not boundless, and could be hurt (and of course, killed).

It would seem in keeping with Morrison's self-aware, self-conscious, meta-Superman to comment on the way continuity post-Crisis (something else GM keeps returning to, over and over ~ Zenith, Animal Man, Flex) drained the character of his godlike abilities.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
21:13 / 12.09.06
I think Morrison also used the vaginal "tunnel of love" imagery in Arkham Asylum.
 
  

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