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Big Brother: Revenge of the Sixth.

 
  

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Shrug
20:19 / 19.06.05
"the house has been infected with a kind of virus"
(my interest is piqued)
"but it's not an actual virus"
(some vague hope still)
"It's cause is a little known and very fatal bacterial spore.
As part of this weeks task the housemates must synthesise a cure"

(Best task eVArr!!!111!!)
"As a result their will be no nominations this week"
(awwwwww)
Inside the house:
Anthony (gloomily): Ihm well fucked I am.
 
 
electricinca
19:08 / 20.06.05
Maxwell continues to be a sex pest.

I can't think of anyone more deserving of being singled out for this week's task. Saskia seems to have had enough of him.

We seem to have a new incarnation of Evil Big Brother this year who's gameplan is to divide and conquer the housemates. As if they aren't as antagonistic as possible already without BB trying to make them more so.
 
 
Ganesh
19:16 / 20.06.05
Oh, I dunno. I'm feeling a little sorry for Maxwell, following his singling out as the Sap in this week's cruel and unusual shit-on-your-fellow-housemates task, essentially because Vanessa cried her way out of it.
 
 
electricinca
19:39 / 20.06.05
Maxwell can be quite a nice bloke when he's not being an arse and having thought about it there are a couple of other people who "deserve it" more. Even so I think it should prove entertaining especially if Maxwell finds out. Based on previous incidents this series I'm pretty sure BB will reveal the whole "singling out" thing to Maxwell.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:24 / 20.06.05
Since Maxwell has been allocated the task, one might say the maggots are no longer off the hook. Ho ho ho, sorry.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
20:47 / 20.06.05
First stirrings of sympathy for Maxwell. But that's overpowered by the amusement caused by him singing along to DO YOU SEE? tunes - 'All By Myself', 'Everything I Do...'

More importantly, where can I get me one of them workhouse outfits?
 
 
Ganesh
20:56 / 20.06.05
Irritated with Vanessa. I can appreciate she might be phobic of maggots (although she seems able to tolerate Craig), but the fact that she wasn't even sli-i-ightly touched by shame or guilt to see the individual who took her place being punished for their goodwill betrays something of a lack of emotional intelligence.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:21 / 20.06.05
I'm sure the British public will judge her accordingly, it has to be said...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:11 / 20.06.05
Anyone except Makosi to win this year though, surely ? What a conniving nightmare she's turning out to be - Science ( even Science, ghastly, despicable Science, ) is starting to seem not all that bad in comparisson. Makosi, pretty clearly, being in possession of 'a game plan,' which you do really have to hope, or at least I do anyway, goes terribly wrong.

Having got that off my chest, more general musings - Has Anthony 'in fact' been 'denying his real feelings' for however long it's been, or is he just been picked on because he's more of a forty watt bulb than a hundred one, say ?
 
 
Ganesh
23:19 / 20.06.05
Argh! "G*mepl*n" be buggered (didn't we agree we'd try not to subscribe to that stuff this year?), Makosi's pretty much the only one I consistently do want to win.

And no, I don't think Anthony's a woofter - just a bit timid, sexually.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:06 / 21.06.05
Yes, we did.

My apologies Dr G.
 
 
Ganesh
01:22 / 21.06.05
You're f*rg*v*n.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
01:42 / 21.06.05
I am quite worried about Maxwell. I see imminent heartbreak on the horizon and the whole country will know. It's a tragedy of the human heart.
 
 
Ganesh
01:52 / 21.06.05
With you on the Maxwell-worry, Nina. Seeing him singing tunelessly away to himself as he sorted maggots or screwed greasy bolts together and guilelessly accepting the other housemates' ludicrously badly acted accounts of similar tasks brought home how essentially trusting he is - and therefore how vulnerable.

I too fear that his little Cockernee heart's gonna fall in tinkling half-ventricles afore too long. In Ides of June style, he's worrying that he might lose his mojo...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:09 / 21.06.05
He does seem to really love her though, doesn't he ? It's not just a passing fancy... Watching the live feed now is almost too much to bear. Poor Maxwell's arm, trying to make it's way across this unbridgeable gap - If he's not careful, his heart is going to be pulled out of his chest and then destroyed, live, as it happens, on English telly, in front of about four million people who'll be sniggering into their drinks. I'm not sure if anyone deserves that.

But this is what's going to happen if Maxwell carries on like this, I think.
 
 
Ganesh
02:24 / 21.06.05
There's a terrible sense of foreboding, isn't there? It's getting worse, too: the more Saskia detaches herself, the harder he tries to regain attention, physical or eye contact, a laugh. As you say, Alex, it's becoming painful.

How many more days does the 'workhouse' task run? When that finishes, however they spin it, I think it's going to amplify any sensitivity, on Maxwell's part, of having been made a fool of in front of everyone. The fact that he readily volunteered to take Vanessa's place, has been observed by all the housemates (who all seemed to find it hi-laaarious) at his unpleasant chores, and appears not to have even the faintest inkling of a suspicion that he's the patsy, is going to make it all the nastier when he learns the truth. He'll put a brave face on it, I'm sure, but how will he feel, knowing they've all been laughing at him onscreen?

On the upside, he has a lucrative career ahead of him on the 'gay chav' circuit.
 
 
Char Aina
09:16 / 21.06.05
i'm not feeling the makosi hate at all.
i reckon her and kemal are the two i want to win.
i reckon they might, too.

on English telly
OI!
shithead!
scotland, wales and northern ireland are in on this experience as well, and your attitude makes us up here want the aussies to take the ashes, the germans to beat you at football and your rugby team to be beaten by the french.
you are not alone on this island.
honestly!
if it isnt the americans it's the english.

ahem.
sorry,
but it annoys me.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
09:34 / 21.06.05
I got up too early today, and for the first time watched nearly a whole show...

Is Derek a real person? I heard him refer to Science's "peasant style of cooking" and then talk like he was trying out for a Carry On film... and nobody said anything (I imagine this is because Science is a cock, and focussing onthis was of greater importance).

I've been missing out. It's nearly got me.
 
 
Ganesh
10:11 / 21.06.05
Yes, Derek is indeed a real person - inasmuch as any black gay member of the Monday Club can be said to exist in a non-conceptual way.

Poor, guilt-free Vanessa feels Craig's used her as a "stepping stone friend" - and it seems he has. While it's refreshing to see a female housemate build up a team of "huskies" without apparently attracting too much of the slut/cocktease response, the Saskia/Maxwell/Anthony/now Craig power bloc is perhaps getting a little too influential within the House. I'll be interested to see whether Big Brother tries to break it up by cooking up reasons why they can't all nominate (as with last week's Derek/Roberto/Craig suspension), or decides to invest in the romance/heartbreak angle, and allows them to gradually pick off the others, leaving themselves for the finale.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
10:23 / 21.06.05
I heard him refer to Science's "peasant style of cooking" and then talk like he was trying out for a Carry On film

He does have a particularly stunning skill for coming up with statments like that, my favourite being "You're infringing my civil liberties. You're the most annoying boy in Britain." again to Science. Is that how everyone talks in the Monday Club when provoked?
 
 
Ganesh
10:49 / 21.06.05
In the last couple of days, I've been chewing over the possibility that Craig's approach to sexuality owes something to *winces* Morrissey. Let's look at the evvvidence...

Craig's audition video and first few days in the House suggested he was someone who'd constructed a spiky, misanthropic persona in order to conceal feelings of personal inadequacy or self-loathing, most probably related to his distinctly ambiguous sexuality. Initially assumed to be gay, he has steadfastly refused to be drawn on whether his preferred, carefully gender-pronoun-neutral partners have been male or female. He's deflected the issue by either focussing on other people's sexuality (is any straight-identifying male housemate not 'in the closet'?) or insisting that he himself has absolutely no sex drive whatsoever. Nuh-uh.

Naturally, while keeping his sexual orientation close to his chest, Maxwell has actively solicited opinion from his three New (Straight) Best Friends who they think he fancies in the House (consensus: Anthony, cue much overprotesting) and, to Saskia, whether she thinks he's gay (reply: yes, but it makes no difference "whether you like dick or you like fanny, be proud of it", cue little or no response). Craig repeatedly draws attention to himself as a sexual being, but remains deliberately vague, ex-partners always couched as "them" and "they".

In last night's programme, there was discussion - mainly centred around Derek - of whether individuals were born gay. Craig claimed he had "friends" who would, if offered a pill which would turn them straight overnight (a sort of anti-bread, presumably), would swallow that pill with nary a second's hesitation. Self-loathing ahoy. Also, when pushed further to 'come out' (Maxwell: "Dale Winton might be waiting for you when you leave"), denied being gay and said he didn't talk about his sexuality because "people don't know what my life's like on the outside". Hm.

Despite the occasional grilling, Craig seems to be revelling in the company of the saskies, who're even schooling him in how not to punch like a girl.

So... we have a "devious, truculent, unreliable" individual, apparently dealing with self-loathing through misanthropy and, later, embedding himself in a gang of ordinary boys. Avowedly without sexual desire himself and determinedly opaque in terms of his own sexuality and previous partners, yet seemingly obsessed with discussing sex and both deflecting and soliciting of speculation on himself as a sexual entity. Apparently happiest when learning pugilism from straight boys with 'rough' accents...

Craig is teh quarry!!!!!11!!!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:06 / 21.06.05
Toksik,

While not being proud of it or anything, in fact a lot of the time being very deeply ashamed, so you could probably chalk me up as the self-hating variety ( I can say these things now I think, living in London, where it's safe, )I'm *actually* Sc*ttish myself, so, y'know...
 
 
electricinca
17:29 / 21.06.05
I think the awfulness of Maxwell's tasks what with this musical accompaniment and everything are going to pale into insignificance in comparison to the humilation he will feel on discovering he has been stitched up especially if coupled with the inevitable rejection he's going to face from Saskia at some point. She just ain't that into you mate.

Being made to look a fool in front of millions of people will crack the cheeky cockney geezer persona I think he uses to hide his vulnerability.

He's not the only one though, I've thought right from the start that a number of them were not truly how they presented themselves in their audtions. That they've adopted extroverted characterisitics to hide their internal conflicts and insecurities.

The only one I'm wrong about is probably Science who has proven that he clearly is quite the nutter, he's not from this planet is he and he's got the social skills of a 3-year old. But despite all this I hope he wins.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:04 / 21.06.05
Derek: "Why would you kill a fly, but not a fox?"

Pause.

Craig: "A fox is like a little puppy..."

You can't buy dialogue like that.
 
 
Ganesh
18:06 / 21.06.05
He's not the only one though, I've thought right from the start that a number of them were not truly how they presented themselves in their audtions. That they've adopted extroverted characterisitics to hide their internal conflicts and insecurities.

I think we talked about this in some depth a little earlier in the thread. If there's been a theme this year, it's probably the gap between adopted persona (likely honed and exaggerated in order to provide a pitch or angle for getting onto Big Brother) and underlying personality. Initially, this was most apparent with Craig, Sam and Mary, but is probably the case with everyone. It's a human trait, after all, although the Endemol selection process probably favours the more extreme speciments.

Science comes from Planet Ghetto. Here, his head emerges from the ragged end of a wormhole singularity in the space-time continuum:

 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
20:54 / 21.06.05
I wonder how Endemol actually select a bunch like this...Is it all Rorscahch blot analysis and psychometric testing for..what? Maximum friction? tension? Attraction? Totally random based on archetypes? They must have some sort of narrative in mind before they begin, and look for dramatis personae to fit the bill...

Or not. What do you reckon?
 
 
Ganesh
21:02 / 21.06.05
Well, they're interviewed by a psychiatrist and several psychologists, the former to weed out frank psychiatric illness and personality disorder and the latter, I thi-i-ink to assess various dimensions of personality (although I doubt they use Rorschach). They then undergo assessment in groups, to see how they interact with others, cope with a communal task, etc.

I'm pretty sure there must be specifics they look for every year: there's always at least one hairdresser, for example, presumably to keep everyone passably-groomed; there's always an older parent-surrogate; there's always a 'babe' and an everybloke.

You thinking of applying, like?
 
 
Ganesh
21:27 / 21.06.05
Hold the front page! Craig is gay!

And he fancies Anthony!

And he can't talk about it because his parents don't know!

And he's deluding himself on that last point!
 
 
Triplets
00:38 / 22.06.05
Ganesh climbs out but they just reeeeeeel him back in.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
01:29 / 22.06.05
Ooohhhh, I wanted him to fancy Maxwell so that we could have a love triangle to watch.
 
 
Ganesh
08:04 / 22.06.05
Wellll, there is that phenomenon of fancying the 'obvious' one then transferring one's affections to his/her best mate.

There's a budding homo/hetero male friendship in the offing (although not as witty or endearing as the Brian/Bubble pairing, in days of yore) and Anthony's clearly wowed by Craig's "six models in an evening" (seven with one blow?) tall tales of Ol' Brighton Town.

Meanwhile, Vanessa's ready to "explode" with anger at having been dumped. That's hairdressers for you, dear.
 
 
Ganesh
20:59 / 22.06.05
I want to shoot Science in the head.
 
 
Ganesh
21:04 / 22.06.05
Craig and Anthony wrestle slashtastically in the Diary Room:

 
 
Haus of Mystery
21:24 / 22.06.05
I want to shoot Science in the head

Why? I missed tonight.
 
 
Ganesh
21:29 / 22.06.05
Nothing particularly new - which is possibly part of the problem. Just his ongoing tendency to perpetuate every conflict by shouting knuckleheadedly over anyone who tries to talk back, never letting anyone finish a sentence. Shooting him in the head would be a nice full stop.
 
  

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