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Big Brother: Revenge of the Sixth.

 
  

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Triplets
22:44 / 09.06.05
Yes, more whorage for the ladzzz, girlsszz. Please.


Sigh.
 
 
The Strobe
08:21 / 10.06.05
I've warmed a lot to Maxwell.

I think there's a market for another ringtone, which is just Maxwell and Anthony in stereo:

"Lesley, you're being a facking arsehole".

"You're a fucking arsehole".

"Lesley, stop being such a facking arsehole".

And so on. I found that very entertaining. Lesley's not a bitch, she's a cow and it's not very becoming. I warmed to Sam a bit when I realised quite how cowish Lesley is.

Also, I'm hating Craig more by the day.

"Stop being such a facking arsehole, Lesley!"

Jamster: sign me up now.
 
 
DaveBCooper
08:40 / 10.06.05
Well, I found it oddly compelling last night; Lesley’s monotone really made me laugh, as did the ‘you made threats to someone’ telling-off.
But I really couldn’t tell if ToryBoy was kidding when he was terse with Sam or not. All very strange.
None of them seem particularly likeable, but it was funny viewing, though whether I’m meant to feel that way, I really don’t know…
 
 
Jack Vincennes
10:20 / 10.06.05
Brilliant moment from last night was Sam asking Big Brother "How did you find so many stupid people to put in this house" (or something to that effect) which was said while, onscreen, the rest of the group having frog races in the garden. Fantastic.

Lesley, I actually find quite scary. This is the first time I've genuinely wanted to vote someone out, last night I started thinking about her walking out of the TV, Sadako style, and picking on me. The fact that I've got a fever might have something to do with that last point, though.

I quite like Maxwell too, possibly because he's the only member of the house who smiles with anything approaching a normal frequency.
 
 
Ganesh
10:24 / 10.06.05
Bookies currently putting Moonpig's chances at 66/1.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
10:55 / 10.06.05
While her odds on eviction tonight are at a rather amusing 1/7.

Yes, those are the correct way round.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
11:11 / 10.06.05
And that's from the bookies that are still taking bets on her.

Hope that Craig comes good on his promise to walk from the show if she's evicted. Shame that history tells us that this isn't all that likely.
 
 
Ganesh
11:24 / 10.06.05
He'll stay and have a crisis of confidence, switching from Craig the Destroyer to Craig the Sniveller before you can say, "nobody likes me, everybody hates me, just 'cause I'm a hateful little shitbag".

Interesting, he's now a "desexed" hateful little shitbag. I'd think we were proudly waving the flag for Asexual Pride if it weren't for the fact that a) he's only "lost his sex drive" since entering the House (making it sound rather more like pulling another closet door shut), and b) he's quite happy to speculate endlessly on sex and sexuality with regard to other housemates.

I'm still reflecting on Yawn's conceptualisation of Craig as the ultimate viewer-turned-participant. I'm not sure I necessarily buy that he's a 'game player' (I think he is, but more as a means of distracting from his own flaws/issues than to win the prize money) but his modes of communication are certainly rather atypical; he interacts on a semi-detached level, attracted to conflict but always at one remove (ie. criticising people when they're not actually in the room), and erects numerous smokescreens and distractions from his own fucked-upness.
 
 
Olulabelle
13:32 / 10.06.05
I like Yawn's theory, because I also actually think that Craig is behaving a lot like someone watching, rather than someone within the house. It would be interesting if he wasn't so wrong about everyone, example Lesley and his perception of her.

I'd like to see a 'viewer' on the inside (if they were perceptive) because it would be like having the discussion of the outside watchers narrated internally. But typically the people who apply are narcissistic and crave attention - not exactly 'observer' material. An observer character probably wouldn't get picked if they did apply.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:03 / 10.06.05
Yes, ganesh - it's his 'once removed' participation that led me think about craig as 'viewer' in the first place.

But I'd say his dithering over his own sexual presentation reinforces the vewer as 'player theory'.

Hardly watched it to be honest but at the mo:

craig to win.

He may go on a . . . . journey . You never know!

god, it feels like its already been on for about 8 weeks, no?!
 
 
Spaniel
14:20 / 10.06.05
I'm not sure that's entirely true. Sure, they're looking for extroverts and (perhaps) narcissists, but let's remember that narcissists and extroverts can be excellent observers.
I think BB has had its fair share of observant housemates, it's just that objectivity becomes a little difficult when you're actually having to live with people.
 
 
Spaniel
14:21 / 10.06.05
Last post in response to Lula.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:31 / 10.06.05
Does anyone think it's possible that the Derek/Roberto/Craig/Lesley grouping and behaviour could be due to the four of them realising that they face an uphill struggle, popularity-wise? Including Vanessa, to a lesser extent. None of them has a chance of winning right now and they already seem aware of the fact, so they've banded together and, in doing so, are just serving to make the situation worse for themselves.
 
 
Olulabelle
19:40 / 10.06.05
Yes indeedy, although I do actually think Roberto is completely clueless about his outside popularity and is willing to suffer his inside popularity for enough food. That and the right to say what the hell he likes to whomever he likes without consequence appear to be his main game plan strategies at the moment...

Funniest eviction moment just now was everyone arguing over who was booed the most. "I was." "No I was." "No I was."

Sam looked completely shocked that she was booed - perhaps she'll liven up a bit now and start being a little nicer.

So it's Lesely to go. At least we'll get to see the police outfit in all it's moving glory. I can't wait to hear the bitching she does to Davina about Sam.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
20:04 / 10.06.05
Yeah Craig, you think about what this means.

Ha.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:30 / 10.06.05
Oh my. I did I really just hear Roberto trying to convince himself that Lesley had been voted out because the public felt sympathy for her?

He really is a PE teacher, isn't he?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
20:41 / 10.06.05
He sure is.

I didn't mind Moonpig once she'd been evicted but I am sad that we will never have the chance to spread her name across all corners of the media.

I wouldn't have guessed that she was going to be 2nd out 2 weeks ago.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:07 / 10.06.05
I think I just heard Derek comparing Lesley to Jesus.

"The thing is we've lost a good crusader. She said what she thought" (something about regardless of what the response was) " and the thing is, that's exactly what Jesus had to go through. When all around him were doubting him."

Yep. I did just hear it.
 
 
Shrug
21:15 / 10.06.05
That's it! From now on when I'm at my lowest ebb I'll just ask myself, "What would Moonpig do?".

Genius Derek

Eu-fucking-reka.
 
 
tea and biscuits
21:23 / 10.06.05
Science berating everyone for saying "I'm starving" when expressing hunger is just the epitome of who he is (pretending to be). Come on mate.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
01:54 / 11.06.05
Lesley's not a bitch, she's a cow and it's not very becoming. I warmed to Sam a bit when I realised quite how cowish Lesley is...

...says far more about you than about either woman. And it's not very 'becoming'.
 
 
Triplets
02:07 / 11.06.05
You did have a moment where you sat on the bed and held hands with Sam. Was that just for the cameras? No. I did actually feel sorry for her because she is an insecure girl. She had to get a boob job to a size C.

...

Where you jealous of Sam? No way. Not at any time was I jealous of Sam. What's to be jealous of?


Hmm.. I'm wondering now, how Lesley will fare outside of the house personality-wise. I believe it was Nina who was hoping more time in the house would crack her tit-focused character armour and lead to a bit of character evolution.

Now she's going to be able to get a hold of all those luvvly "Ain't she a fattie" articles in the Sun/Mirror/Star - and as a girl of the BB-type, who WOULDN'T want to get hold of as many "me" focused articles as possible? - and I can that initial crack in her armour growing over like a big callous. More extreme bodily dysmorphia to follow?
 
 
40%
07:57 / 11.06.05
I think I just heard Derek comparing Lesley to Jesus.

He also more subtley compared Science to Ghandi or Martin Luther King a few days ago, trying to give him an example of how much impact you could make by being a good role model.

Creep.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:07 / 11.06.05
Absolutely loved the superb job the ditors did of Moonpig's Montage.

In fact, it needs to become part of the graduate syllaubus in non-linear editing - Moonpig's Montage.

She really, really deserved it. And it actually looked as though it worked - yes, dear, that really is how hideous and unpleasant you came across to 4 million viewers.
 
 
Fist Fun
09:47 / 11.06.05
Glad to see Moonpig out. Seemed like Davina was struggling to hide her contempt.

I am starting to feel sorry for Maxwell. He is, along with Saskia, the nicest person in there but he keeps having to put up with weird behaviour. Roberto chucking a heppie and throwing food at him. Lesley consistently bullying Sam.

I like the way Maxwell is willing to play along with the rules. Like how many others in the house would actually have stayed on the 'naughty step'.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
11:53 / 11.06.05
Science has earned himself a few nominations this morning, and Derek has officially dissolved their friendship.

This box task is GREAT TV
 
 
fuckbaked
12:55 / 11.06.05
Ok so I've never seen the show, but I stumbled upon something about it today, and was interested in the box thing. How long are they staying in the boxes? What if they need to go to the bathroom?

If I had a clean way to go to the bathroom, and food and water, I could stay in a box for weeks...

Does anyone else think Lesley is hot? I know everyone thinks she's a bitch (I wouldn't know, having not seen the show) so I guess that would ruin it, but I saw a picture of her on the Sun's website in a tight little police uniform.... *sigh* when I try to save a copy of the picture, the sun gives me a message about copyrights.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
13:34 / 11.06.05
They're staying in the boxes for as long as they can, If they feel the call of nature, they can either soil themselves in the box, or go to the toilet and fail, as far as I'm aware
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:16 / 11.06.05
Does anyone else think Lesley is hot?

Yeah. Lesley. Otherwise, I think even Peter Stringfellow would consider her idea of putting on a show of sexuality to have been a bit tacky.

She's got more to contend with than just the tabloids, too - it sounds like she was a member of the DigitalSpy BB forum last year, so no doubt she'll be popping over there to see what's been said. And there's been quite a lot said, including a "leave your personal message for Lesley here" thread. Ouch.

The biggest problem with having people like Maxwell grow on you (and Saskia, who's also become far more likable than the rest of them) is that you're just waiting for them to let you down as soon as they're asked to talk about their opinion on anything other than having a larf. It might not happen this year, given the way that the diary room is largely being ignored and how tasks have, over the years, moved away from having to have discussions and towards having them act like performing seals, but if does then we're going to be put straight onto the first train to Bigotry City. They're both amusing and sweet for now, but I suspect this isn't going to last for too long.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:33 / 11.06.05
Jesus wept. Craig - such a twat. Keeps on getting twattier.

Let's see what you've done so far, twat. You've done the drag queen bit. You've spread gossip and rumours about others behind their backs, then been nice as pie to their faces. You've... Oh, wait. That's all you've done. Truly, you're an inspiration to us all. You are the new Peter Tatchell. Fight the power!
 
 
Fist Fun
14:45 / 11.06.05
"then we're going to be put straight onto the first train to Bigotry City"

Why are you making the assumption that Maxwell is a bigot?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:56 / 11.06.05
Comments he made about Kemal to the others during some of the live feeds. The fact that he claims to have "no time for any political opinions" - I think it's generally the case that those who say they don't "do" politics have learned not to get involved in political discussion over time, as they're incapable of backing up their own poorly-considered positions when called on them or handling points of view contrary to their own.

He also hasn't got any time for vegetarians - positioning himself as a 'real' man, not one of the pussy hippie woofters.
 
 
Fist Fun
15:00 / 11.06.05
What comments did he make to Kemal?

I couldn't imagine Maxwell hating anyone.
 
 
Ganesh
15:06 / 11.06.05
On Day 1 or 2, Maxwell was told (by either Mary or Kemal) that Makosi spoke ten languages. He responded, "why doesn't she go back to her own country, then?" Not necessarily indicative of BNP founder membership, but an apparently unexamined seam of bigotry nonetheless.
 
 
Fist Fun
15:09 / 11.06.05
That isn't a nice thing to say. Missed that.
 
  

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