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10:55 / 26.10.05

Ooh! Ooh! I know that one!

The other characters are considered public figures, and Marvel uses their likenesses unlicensed (with the possible exception of the Avengers). Since they can't sue without revealing their identities, Marvel is safe from legal action. (Which is interesting, as it portrays Marvel itself in kind of a sleazy light. But anyway.)

There was a fifth-week event in 2000 where Marvel published their version of what comics in the Marvel Universe must be like. "Marvels comics," it was called. Kind of a fun conceit: the "Marvels" FANTASTIC FOUR billed itself as "The World's Only 100% Authorized Comic!"

The others varied wildly from in-continuity "fact," because (the editors figured) nobody in the MU really knows much about these costumed figures. So Daredevil is portrayed as an actual devil, you know, from Hell. The CAPTAIN AMERICA book is credited to writer Rick Jones and artist Steve Rogers. Mark Millar wrote X-MEN as a kind of Suicide Squad analogue, with captured mutant supervillains coerced into acting for the greater good. SPIDER-MAN was played as a horror book: there was also, from what I hear, a pretty good take on THOR.

Not that I read any of these myself, mind you.

12:23 / 26.10.05

I never knew that. That's interesting, though it doesn't really fit with Slott's She-Hulk (which imho is good, and you should all be reading it) where lawyers cite comics as legally binding precedent. But as I said it's probably best not to look to hard at this.
Your post did remind me of some old Captain America issues where Steve Rogers, who was working as a graphic designer in his secret identity, ended up drawing the Captain America comic.

14:24 / 26.10.05

In response to the 'poop flavored' Severin art: Not Brand Ecch! Accept no substitutes.

14:58 / 26.10.05

>> Are they basically the Linear Men of the Marvel Universe?

Basically, yes. I think Walt Simonson introduced them in his FF run, not sure. And the "TVA" is a play, I think, on the historical Tennessee Valley Authority, for old fogies who have heard of that in their high school Social Studies books.

22:28 / 26.10.05

They are also a tribute (visually) to Mark Gruenwald, champion of continuity.

17:13 / 27.10.05

I have no idea which X-title shares continuity with which. Can anyone concisely explain? Does Joss Whedon's Astonishing continue from Grant's New directly?

17:28 / 27.10.05

Pretty much, yes. It follows Morrison's run directly.

21:54 / 27.10.05

As far as I know, all the X-Men books are in continuity with one another, except for Ultimate X-Men, which is in continuity with the other Ultimate books. Each book, however, (Astonishing, Uncanny, and No Superlative For Me, Thanks!) has a different team lineup, so it's as though the X-Men are broken into squads. Wolverine is on all three squads (and the New Avengers), and everybody complains about it, and the writers all make jokes about it in the books ("Gee, Wolverine, why don't you give somebody else a chance to be an X-Man?" Har ar ar).

09:19 / 28.10.05

The Ultimate Vision sure ain't got no willy:

19:48 / 02.11.05

Are you SURE?

03:00 / 03.11.05

Does anybody know if there was an issue where Scott and Maddy Pryor find out she's pregnant? In the Essential X-Men books they just show up and she's already pregnant, but did this happen in some other book, or was it just an offscreen development?

10:15 / 03.11.05

The Ultimate Vision sure ain't got no willy:

Well no, those darn Russians apparently took everything below the waist and up the left side of his body. Some poor Rusky super-soldier's hanging out in the nuke-mined bunker with a solar-ray firing dong, or something.

I don't think that'll be Vision though. As of the end of Ultimate Nightmare Vision was definitely masculine. That might be the Ultimate version of...Ultron's playmate (War Toy?)?

10:30 / 03.11.05

I've seen an advertising card for Ultimate Vision with that image....

10:59 / 03.11.05

ROBOT BREASTS! ALIEN ROBOT BREASTS!

Knowing Ellis, they probably hold some sort of nerve agent that he is going to spend six pages detailing the chemical structure of. Writing so taut it could only be ripped from American Scientist!

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

11:00 / 03.11.05

Does anybody know if there was an issue where Scott and Maddy Pryor find out she's pregnant?

This was in the X-Men/Alpha Flight 2 issue mini, (issue 2 detailed here) collected as 'Asgardian Wars'. Xavier scans Maddy and finds two sets of brainwaves. There's full synopses at the link.

15:02 / 03.11.05

I really liked that mini, Paul Smith was a such terrific artist (his recent Marvel work seems not quite as good as his older stuff, though Leave It To Chance was very solid and fun), and I used to love Alpha Flight under Byrne (back when Byrne was good)....Claremont did AF proud, since that was back before Claremont entered into hackdom. Sigh.

16:33 / 15.11.05

Whatever happened to the Lobdell (I think) created Dr. Reyes? I quite enjoyed her short tenure in the X-Men and she seemed to vanish as soon as Claremont took over Uncanny in 2000-ish.

17:32 / 15.11.05

early in CC's run she seemed to have gotten hooked on a mutant crak and left the team to rehabilitate herself. I think I remember a cameo were she's working at a local hospital or something. Perhaps in Mutant town.

17:43 / 15.11.05

I'm pretty sure they killed her off. Or possibly said "Hey, she's dead" in a letter column just recently.

It is probably Frank Tieri's fault.

17:48 / 15.11.05

I just happened to read something about that, and you were right...she was killed off-panel during his WEAPON X series.

18:46 / 15.11.05

Isn't she scheduled to appear in X3? I smell resurrection...

19:37 / 15.11.05

I think there was a rumour that Shohreh Aghdashloo was supposed toplay Dr. Reyes but she is actually playing Dr. Rao.

And I liked Dr Reyes too. Can't believe they killed her off-camera.

What about Maggott? Or Marrow? Are they still about?

Also, what's Doc Samson up to these days?

20:28 / 15.11.05

Doc Samson did some stuff in recent issues of HULK, I believe (maybe House of M related, maybe not, not sure, didn't read 'em) -- and he's about to get his own miniseries, 4 or 5 issues, which looks kinda eehh.

20:33 / 15.11.05

What about Maggott? Or Marrow? Are they still about?

And the benefits of googling Barbelith are displayed once more!

Is Maggott even still alive?

Nope. He was killed in a concentration camp over in WEAPON X.

01:41 / 17.11.05

Possible Spoilers for New Avengers

Since apparently Ronin is Echo, would somebody mind telling who the fuck is Echo? I've never even heard of her or him. I'm not even sure. Hell, I have no clue whatsoever.

End Spoilers

03:19 / 17.11.05

I'm still going through the original Claremont run, up to 221, and I'm curious about what prompted the movement of Kitty and Nightcrawler out of the X-Men. Were they written out specifically so that the new title, Excalibur, could be breated, or was it more a case of Claremont choosing to write them out and then eventually deciding to put them into Excalibur?

I guess what I'm wondering is was Marvel telling him to spread the characters around so they could get more titles, because it seems odd that they would get rid of all but two of the pre-existing X-Men in the post Massacre period.

06:40 / 17.11.05

matt, Echo was a deaf girl who studied DareDevil's moves to such an extent that she became a master ninja just like him. She fought him, the Kingpin manipulating her to think that he was responsible for a death in the family, I think.

08:12 / 17.11.05

I'm still going through the original Claremont run, up to 221, and I'm curious about what prompted the movement of Kitty and Nightcrawler out of the X-Men. Were they written out specifically so that the new title, Excalibur, could be breated, or was it more a case of Claremont choosing to write them out and then eventually deciding to put them into Excalibur?

It seems like they were written out purely so they could join New Excalibur. In Decimation they say "See ya! We're going to see what's happening in England." then in New Excalibur #1 they all show up leading Captain Britian to comment "It's like an Excalibur reunion!"

12:07 / 17.11.05

I believe he was talking about the ORIGINAL Excalibur, in which case I believe the answer is "Yes". In theory, they were supposed to be recovering from the traumas they'd suffered, but those injuries were eventually forgotten.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

12:52 / 17.11.05

Weren't they recuperating on Muir Isle during the first few issues of Excalibur?

06:48 / 23.11.05

Weren't they recuperating on Muir Isle during the first few issues of Excalibur?

Yes, they did and Moira was dressed in the darnedest slutty Nurse’s uniform for the duration.

Okay, I've a Vision related question. Seeing as Ultron and Hank Pym are Vision's "father" and Alkahema and the Wasp his "mother". Where does Jocasta belong on this terrifyingly shit robotic family tree?

Oh, and in reference to this image:

I was also wondering if anyone could tell me which mutants make up the new X-Factor? I recognise Jamie Madrox, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy and M. But who’re the bored, redhead (please don't say Madelyne Pryor) and the guy sitting on the file cabinet?

07:41 / 23.11.05

Marvel website's got the line up as; Madrox, Guido, Wolfsbane, Siryn (redhair), M and Rictor (guy on filecase).

07:58 / 23.11.05

What happened to Fantomem (Phantom X)?

09:25 / 23.11.05

Jocasta is Vision's stepmother, since she was basically created to be Ultron's mate (Alkhema replaced her)

And Fantomex was last seen in Tieri's WEAPON X. Not sure what happened to him.

09:50 / 23.11.05

Given Wolverine's healing factor, can he get pissed?

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