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11:44 / 13.09.05

Oh, the warpies, I can answer that- turns out they all had latent mutations that were triggered by the exotic particle radiation from the dimensional portals opening up all over the British Isles as Merlyn's machinations in Excalibur came to a head. When the lighthouse, the tower that existed in all worlds as the lynchpin the multiverse was yoked to was destroyed, the warpies were supposed to slowly revert to baseline human form.
Of course, everything else Alan Davis has contributed to Marvel has been erased, so it would amaze me if this still stood.

08:48 / 14.09.05

I don't think Rogue bleaches the stripe in her hair, does she?

11:10 / 14.09.05

According to an FAQ, thos question was answered in a lettercolumn of Uncanny X-Men, sometime during the 100's.

Yes, she does.

05:55 / 15.09.05

I don't think Rogue bleaches the stripe in her hair, does she?

To paraphrase Wolverine: "the kid bleaches her hair". No, I'm being serious, he actually said that once...when they were in Japan...shortly after killing her in the last issue. He was trying to be droll.

Yesterday I stumbled across this site Classic X-Men Covers. Geeks with weak hearts STAY AWAY!

And I found this image, featuring a man-sized Sentinel. I've always thought that Sentinels were jumbo, towering lumps that fall over and make creeking noises when they bend to pick things up. This no longer seems to be the case. It seems a smaller, more mobile version once existed. One with yellow legs.

Why was their size changed and why is Jean swinging from a vine while chatting away on a cellphone? Oh and see there, Beast is scanning the floor for a lost contact and the Sentinel is all like, smell my pits and Xavier is like, whoa sniff my finger first. Ha, funny! Kirby truely was a legend.

05:58 / 15.09.05

http://www.samcci.comics.org/xm-01-25.htm

Oh, sorry.

09:08 / 15.09.05

HA! I've got a reprint of that issue. It's just like Springer- Prof. X and Trask, the guy who created the Sentinels are on a talk show, debating mutant rights, and Trask basically says "Mutants are dangerous, and to prove it, here are some giant killer robots I prepared earlier- wha? NO! NO! STAY BACK! I CREATED YOU- I AM THE MASTER- AIEEEEE!".

10:29 / 15.09.05

The Essential Uncanny X-men is a vital purchase. All the issues are like that: Full on crazy silver age goodness.

08:26 / 16.09.05

I love it when they visit the Beatnik bar and Hank takes his shoes off, and all the beatniks hoist him up on their shoulders and parade him around and paint faces on his feet. Alan Davis namechecked the poet from that issue in X-Men/Clandestine, when the original team were going to see his one-night comeback...
Oh, and the fight with the Avengers! Iceman to Thor: "Go fly a kite, Goldielocks! You're too square to scare anyone!" Heh, it's great when people remember that Bobby Drake, Johnny Storm and Peter Parker all have that twisted sense of humor.

08:33 / 16.09.05

Rogue bleaches her hair? Oh, I haven't been this devastated since I found out Black Canary and Negative Woman both wore wigs...
Next you'll be telling me Psylocke isn't a natural purple.

10:01 / 16.09.05

i'm guessing that somewhere along the way marvel retconned the timeline so that the x-men weren't around in the swinging 60s

did they do the same to thor and iron man so that they never got to go to latin america and knock over communist governments like they used to? funny that they are the two most liberal members of the ultimates with that sort of past record in the 616.

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

20:01 / 16.09.05

The way "Marvel Time" works is that the Fantastic Four went into space 10 years ago, no matter when it is now. Back in the early 80's, Byrne said in Fantastic Four stories that it was 7 years, but recently an editor at Marvel said that un-officially, they are treating it as if it's now been ten years.

23:12 / 17.09.05

Exept for the Punisher and Iron Man, whose origins are tied up with the Vietnam war, so eventually Marvel will either have to retcon them into the Gulf, or give them some of Nick Fury's Infinity Formula, or have them tottering around on heavily armed walking frames and rocket-powered segways.

Essential Dazzler

23:27 / 17.09.05

The Punisher is in his early fifties in the current run, Ennis'll have him kicking ass till he get's alzheimers, and didn't Ellis change Iron-Mans origin to the gulf war?

01:29 / 18.09.05

Marvel time is now 15 years, aksherly, post Alias #22 or so, when Jessica Jones was Forrest Gumped into Spidey's origin with the caption '15 years ago'. When I used to try and work these things out in my head it was on the ratio 3:1 years, so that's about right by me.

01:38 / 18.09.05

Yeah, that'd make Peter Parker 30, though, and they'd never let that happen.

Comic book time never makes sense, and I leave it at that.

rabideyemovement

16:08 / 18.09.05

Yes, I'm not quite ready for my comic characters to go real time just yet. Still, someday it'll be nice to see an elderly Bruce Wayne trying to keep up.
And I already had the impression that Peter Parker has passed the thirty mark. How old would Johnny Storm be right now?

16:31 / 18.09.05

Johnny started off being a year older than Peter, but now he's probably younger than him, or the same age, which is kept around 25-ish, I suppose. Neither of them has aged in years.

rabideyemovement

00:07 / 19.09.05

So that would make Johnny about fifteen when genius Reed Richards let him ride a rocket into space?
I'm afraid to ponder how old Sue was when she first hooked up with Reed.

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

00:18 / 19.09.05

I'm afraid to ponder how old Sue was when she first hooked up with Reed.

In the most recent "Marvel Universe Handbook", they state that Sue was 12 when she first met Reed and decided then and there that she would marry him some day, much to his chagrin. Reading between the lines, that would probably make Reed in his early 20's when he met her (since he was done with college) and puts their age difference somewhere around 10 - 15 years. It's also pretty clear that Reed was in his late 30's or early 40's when the FF first went into space, since Kirby clearly stated that Reed was as old as he was when he created the character.

Of course, Stan says the same thing now.

Luckily, Lee and Kirby were both about the same age.

01:02 / 19.09.05

So, how old was Sue when Reed let her "ride his rocket", hmm?

01:10 / 19.09.05

When I used to try and work these things out in my head it was on the ratio 3:1 years

When I was in junior high school I worked it out to 4:1 because when Spider-Man was going through his whole clone thing, he said the clone was born "five years ago" and it had been twenty years real time. It seems to be a fairly decent rate if you really care to keep the whole "ten years or so" thing and I think it makes Peter about 27.

didn't Ellis change Iron-Mans origin to the gulf war?

I thought they'd done it so that Vietnam had been swapped with some territory the Mandarin's guys were occupying, but I suppose Ellis's revamp would override that.

As for the Punisher, I got impression from the BORN series that the deal with Death or whomever he struck is keeping him young or something. Am I remembering this right? It seemed like a decent kind-of solution to deal with the Vietnam thing.

New question, while we're on the subject: was Bruce Banner's gamma bomb project still sabotaged by communists, or has that been taken out? I always figured that the Soviet Union had just collapsed later in the Marvel Universe than in the real world.

01:16 / 19.09.05

I think the deal in Punisher: Born was metaphorical. But that was just me.

01:20 / 19.09.05

Re: Bruce and the Bomb: Byrne made it Skrulls.
Sensational idol of millions, musician and ham radio operating professional sidekick and former television host, Rick Jones, metatexted that out of the way.
Now, I'm pretty sure it's up in the air but probably still involving a Gargoyle in some way.

01:34 / 19.09.05

Skrulls, eh? I guess alien impersonators could also explain Kruschev's appearances in old 60s Iron Man comics. Heh.

I think the deal in Punisher: Born was metaphorical. But that was just me.

I thought that was put in there by Ennis for the people who really REALLY needed that continuity explanation, but kept it ambiguous so that it can be ignored if you don't like the idea of supernatural forces being mixed up with the Punisher.

02:23 / 19.09.05

So what's the dealio with COUNTER EARTH vis a vis recentish MU continuity? Why were the Thunderbolts there? Are there any cool Counter-Earth tales besides Warlock-Avengers-Squadron Supreme?

And is it a mirror of "our" MU earth a la DCU (where everybody has an analog), or is it just a planet with six billion entirely different people?

I must know this in order to sleep soundly at night...

02:24 / 19.09.05

So I gather Aunt May once worked for/almost married Doc Ock. Is this as freaky as the old maid has gotten, or are there other such gems? My heart brims with desire for "Imaginary Aunt May" stories...

02:28 / 19.09.05

"New question, while we're on the subject: was Bruce Banner's gamma bomb project still sabotaged by communists, or has that been taken out?"

Riffing on the above and continuing with the two prior "imagnary Stories" and Alternate Earths posts, wouldn't it be cool to see an JSAish, "Earth-Two" MU series set in a present day where the FF et alia have been around for fifty years?

03:18 / 19.09.05

06:23 / 19.09.05

Wow! Thanks for the info. Was it any good?

14:31 / 19.09.05

That FF Annual was one of the best annuals Marvel's put out in thirty years, if only because most annuals are shitty. There's a 'Wizard of Oz' vibe running all the way through, oftentimes nicely subtle with the occasional THE WIZARD thrown in. There's actual weight and mild sadness at things like Bruce Banner just getting old, the old soldier poker games, cheesy happy family togetherness, puns, sandwiches made for gods... good stuff.
I'd very much like Kesel to do some extended FF work at some point. He had that try-too-hard Thing and bishie Johnny, Sue Mother-of-All Storm and her lovable but dense rubber-hubby thing all stitched up and elegantly presented.

19:33 / 05.10.05

Seriously though, what the hell was Ultimate Adventures supposed to be? I'm completely flummoxed.

09:20 / 12.10.05

Are Northstar and Aureola, I mean Aurora, still elves?

11:12 / 12.10.05

No, that particular story was eventually thrown out as one of Loki's deceptions. I guess the editors finally realized that making Northstar a _real_ "Fairy" was remarkably stupid.

08:46 / 13.10.05

Re: Aunt May and Otto Octavius, they di dindeed almost get married. turns out ole Aunt May inherited a nuclear power station from a deceased relative(yes, A NUCLEAR power station) and Otto being being mad keen to take over the world with radiation and stuff started to woo the old gal to get his handas on her plutonium core(EEWW!!!). Much craziness ensued and i forget the rest. Hey, on that note , didja hear that jarvis and May have hooked up on New Avengers. To quote pete:' NAHH NAAAH NAH I am not listening!."

12:09 / 13.10.05

Aunt May certainly gets around, last I heard she was seeing Willie Lumpkin, the Fantastic Four's mailman.
And wasn't she dead?

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