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Doctor Who Season 3 UK (No Spoilers)

 
  

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Shiny: Well Over Thirty
04:49 / 19.06.07
WE CAN HAZ LOLMASTAS?
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
04:59 / 19.06.07
The "Vote Saxon" trailer on his site has the first "Mister Saxon" mention as back in "Love and Monsters". He's also mentioned in Torchwood a few times, especially at the end.... which I would assume, takes place right before this episode.
 
 
Dark side of the Moonfrog1
07:49 / 19.06.07
Sorry, couldn't help myself...

 
 
Miss K
10:05 / 19.06.07
Sorry, couldn't help myself...

You might enjoy this. I know I did. Sorry if it's a repost.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
16:36 / 21.06.07
Vote Saxon, erm
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:22 / 22.06.07
'This is not the real Vote Saxon website. This is a fictional website created for the new series of Doctor Who by the BBC. We apologise for any inconvenience caused if you thought this was a real website.'

Damnit, where's the real Vote Saxon website?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:26 / 23.06.07
Rewatching last weeks episode with the commentary, Phil Collinson points out, during the first scene with Jack and the Doctor outside the TARDIS, that David and John have never worked together before, yet are such good actors that it almost makes one forget that John played opposite a different actor, they react to one another so well.

Fifty minutes to go...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:26 / 23.06.07
I'M HAVING A PHANTASMGASM!!!
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:46 / 23.06.07
Me too. We've finally seen Gallifrey and the Time Lords.

Eeeee!

Doctor: "It's like when you fancy someone and they don't know you exist."
Martha: < stares >
Jack: < looks at Martha > "Oh, you too huh?"
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:47 / 23.06.07
Yeah, that exchange was fucking beautiful.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:53 / 23.06.07
So many great moments, the Doctor and the Master talking... the Master watching Teletubbies, jellybabies, Anne Widdicombe shilling for Saxon...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:00 / 23.06.07
Ewwww, could do without the pop music though. And it's another massacre! Otherwise a great episode...
 
 
Triplets
18:04 / 23.06.07
Who let the Doctor Who Confidential sound editor in the studio?!
 
 
Quantum
18:05 / 23.06.07
That was so good!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:05 / 23.06.07
Six billion, hmm? And it would break the Doctor's hearts to know what they are? HMM. Sorry, getting too speculative. Will stop now.
 
 
sleazenation
18:06 / 23.06.07
All those were good moments, but...

I dunno.

I enjoyed it, but it still feel a bit of a letdown from last week. But, you know, last week we had fewer expectation whereas this week expectation has been that much higher...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:06 / 23.06.07
Really? I thought it stank. That was also the case with the penultimate episode in each of the previous series, though, so I'm hoping it picks up next week. As fifty minutes of television in and of itself, though, it was a bloody mess.
 
 
Triplets
18:09 / 23.06.07
Simm as the Master, though. Class! "Well, it's my first week on the job and, you know how it is, all that paperwork. I think it may have dropped behind the settee? I had a look this morning and I found a pen, a sweet and a bus ticket."
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:13 / 23.06.07
Randy- I'll agree with you insofar as I thought some of it was a bit rushed, but I don't think that spoiled it.
 
 
Quantum
18:15 / 23.06.07
I love the master. Simms and his laser screwdriver, hehehe, phantasmagasmic childlike allies, massacred the cabinet, quality.
 
 
sleazenation
18:16 / 23.06.07
But it's not The Master of old - it's a reinterpretation making him maaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Nothing wrong with reinterpretation. But comedy madness?

I think that is the thing that doesn't really work for me.

But, you know, there's plenty else that does...
 
 
A fall of geckos
18:23 / 23.06.07
It did feel a little rushed, but I think that actually worked for me. It was as if the series was going into overdrive.

Also:

"I thought he was your secret brother or something."
"You've been watching too much TV"

was beautiful.
 
 
sleazenation
18:24 / 23.06.07
Yes, that was good.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:24 / 23.06.07
Also the Master, though. I honestly think they've fluffed him badly - not the writing or the acting (although I do agree with sleaze on the comedy thing - comedy madness I can accept quite happily, the last couple of minutes of last week getting it note perfect, but it was too broad here and ended up sucking the menace from the character), but the rubbishy way they dealt with his background. A flashback and a short conversation don't cut it - if I was a new viewer, I'd still be wondering who the fucking hell this bloke is, other than Series 3 Big Bad. No lead up - just bam, he's suddenly there, being nasty. No reasons given as to why he wants to destroy the planet other than he doesn't like the Doctor and he's "mad".

It's all a bit Caleb.

On top of that, too many elements repeated from previous series - most notiably the mobile phones, which recall the headsets from the Cybermen episodes last year - and too many elements in general.

Just too busy. Too many ideas, none of them well enough developed.

I did like the sky splitting open, though.
 
 
Spaniel
18:26 / 23.06.07
And it's another massacre!

I know I'm not one of you guys, but, yeah, YA-A-WN! Talk about bloody done to extremely unfrightening and completely lacking in gravitas death.

Also, some of that dialogue seemed awfully difficult to deliver - a problem I repeatedly have with Russell T penned stuff.

Enjoyed it despite all that, though.
 
 
sleazenation
18:28 / 23.06.07
Well, the sky splitting open could be cause for speculation...

in another thread of course.
 
 
sleazenation
18:37 / 23.06.07
Oh and the UNIT helicarrier!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:39 / 23.06.07
Everything about this episode was great - how deftly the explanation for how the Master is back was handled, same for Jack's Torchwood connections.

"Let the business of government... begin!"

"I like it when you use my name."

I think it's possible that the Troklaphane are the humans who made it to Utopia - remember the Doctor said he'd locked the coordinates so the Tardis could only travel between roughly 18 months of when they'd come from and the end of the universe - presumably bacl and forth as many times as The Master wanted, though...
 
 
Spaniel
18:46 / 23.06.07
Thank God someone around here isn't worried about speculating. Most stupidest rule evar, if you ask me.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:48 / 23.06.07
Thank God someone around here isn't worried about speculating. Most stupidest rule evar, if you ask me.

Agreed.

Fly, that's a neat idea, but were there 6 billion people still alive? May have to watch last week's again.
 
 
sleazenation
18:55 / 23.06.07
The unfortunate thing is that when there is speculation, and that speculation spawns spoilers there are plenty of people who get upset.
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
18:56 / 23.06.07
I don't think there was a single thing I didn't love about the episode. Simm was perfect as the Master - and I don't think he was terribly far from the old version myself - true he delivered the lines in a more manic manner than previous versions, but I'm sure the Master has always had a tendency to suddenly hve very violent things done to people in his way, and to make over the top megalomaniacal speeches, so to me it definitely seemed like recognizably the same character.

The only moment I didn't entirely love was when the sky opened and for a few seconds I thought the void was opening a Dalek's were pouring out - but that was just my Dalek paranoia so it's all fine, I reckon.

Also loved the way the Master was several steps beyond even the Doctor for the entire episode - it's great to see the Doctor challenged on an intellectual level, by someone who can credibly compete with him, rather than have him always be the smartest character in the show.
 
 
sleazenation
18:58 / 23.06.07
By the by, I thought the Doctor said he locked the co-ordinates so the Tardis could only travel back to where it had come from (which means that the master landed in modern Cardiff...)
 
 
Sibelian 2.0
19:02 / 23.06.07
I KNEW he was going to watch the Teletubbies. I KNEW.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:10 / 23.06.07
Nobody, as far as I can remember, has ever said that speculation is verboten. As I have repeatedly said, and as sleaze has just mentioned, the problem is that people here have some serious difficulty differentiating between speculation and spoilers. So could we maybe not keep on moaning about it?

There's a list of things that I never want to see in another episode of Doctor Who:

The Houses of Parliament
Big Ben
Celebs having cameos where they play their own miserable selves
Current-day London (actually, I'll extend that to current-day Earth)
Internet sites designed by people who've clearly never seen internet sites irl
Mocked up BBC news reports
Mass invasion scenes that force lots of awful extras to try and look frightened
Flashbacks
Stupid colours in the lighting (seriously, what the fuck was going on with all the lavender in the inner workings of the aircraft carrier?)
References to spin-off series

It all goes back to this thing of how you've got the most perfect setup for a fantasy tv series ever - a guy who can go anywhere, anywhen - and yet the people currently in charge are purposefully ignoring it.
 
  

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