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Big Brother 2006

 
  

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Ganesh
17:18 / 20.06.06
Regarding the Pete/Nikki thing, I don't think he was exactly pressured into it.

No, but I don't think he initiated it either. I think he went with the flow. I'd just like to see him do otherwise. I'd like to see some passion from Pete, or at least some opinion.
 
 
Ganesh
17:35 / 20.06.06
Nikki, Imogen, Lisa and Mikey nominated this week. Bwahahahahahahhh!
 
 
Shrug
17:42 / 20.06.06
Excellent. *Rubs hands together gleefully*.
Plus, *wipes sweat from forehead* now I don't have to fulfill any dares. Bwahhahah, indeed.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:47 / 20.06.06
All the Plastics up for the public vote. Spoiled for choice! Has to be Lisa.
 
 
Ganesh
19:02 / 20.06.06
Stoatie on Aisleyne:

Her attitude towards the game seems to be one of playing in the less Machiavellian sense of the word.

I broadly agree, but recall a BBLB wherein Dermot said that, on tests of 'Machiavelliness' (and I'm assuming this is some sort of obscure psychometric questionnaire), Aisleyne was way out in front. Go, as they say, figure.

And yes, Lisa to go. Another malignant rumour-tumour requiring excision; the House will be all the more benign for it.
 
 
sleazenation
19:12 / 20.06.06
Be interesting to see if this news has an effect on how the plastics interact with each other... surely they must have noticed that they are unpopular with the voting public - perhaps time for them to change tactics and turn on each other?
 
 
Ganesh
19:18 / 20.06.06
Well, one might've thought that one would've clicked with them before now, eh? I'm sure previous years' Housemates were more attuned to popular opinion. There seems to be a sort of tacit acceptance that it's all down to editing and everyone gets booed.

Having said which, it'd certainly be nice if the remaining Plastics auto-combusted. At the very least, Imogen will feel out on a limb, and may well huddle with Mikey, for warmth...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:26 / 20.06.06
I got annoyed at the soft-as-diarrhoea pop psychology of the 'different types of bitching'

I totally agree. And, no disrespect to your profession, but they could have dispensed with ANY type of psychology, really (which would invalidate BBBB as a programme, obviously, but it IS rubbish, so no harm done) by cutting to the chase and saying "Grace was being quite nasty, really".

I don't know if that was the conclusion they reached- as I say, I went to bed instead of watching the rest- but (even speaking as a layman) if there's one person involved in this whole malarkey who I dislike more than either Grace or Sezer, it's that woman they get on BBBB.

Incidentally, did anyone see about Sezer's soaking?

Crouch End has long been one of my favourite places... it just got better.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:56 / 20.06.06
I wonder if this is the Machiavelli test? It was linked to on Digital Spy with that claim but seems a bit amateur. Thinking of the standard that prevails on BBBB though, that shouldn't disqualify it. I'm 66% Machiavellian, apparently. Less than Madonna but more than Madge Bishop.

Have been thinking a lot about the pleasure to be had from the vilification of housemates such as Sezer and Grace. Maybe we do hate the ones the most who remind us of the traits within us that shame us and we wish to disown. BB gives us the chance to banish anyone who annoys us sufficiently, unlike real life, where we're stuck with them and have to negotiate some means of coexisting. And the knowledge that we can do no real harm, as we perceive it, to these people, frees us to give full rein to our sadism. It also allows us to project all of our traits onto the scapegoat before the ritual of banishment.

This would certainly explain why I get so furious to see Grace still bobbing up, grinning smugly, on BBLB and being pussyfooted around by Dermy Baby. I have a sadistic urge to see her punished for being a not very nice person (who nevertheless has never actually done me any harm). All real Bread and Circuses stuff, huh?

The scapegoat is supposed to accept its fate meekly and wander off into the desert, not to keep popping up on tv again. Grace is a crap scapegoat. More of a moose, I'd say.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:03 / 20.06.06
It occurs to me that the thing I feel about Nikki- I love watching her on telly but would kill her within moments if we had to share a house- seems to be reflected in her fortunes. She's always up for eviction (chosen by the people who have to live with her) but gets kept in by the people who like watching her on telly. I'm fairly sure she's safe this week, too, what with Lisa being up and all...
 
 
Ganesh
20:14 / 20.06.06
And, no disrespect to your profession, but they could have dispensed with ANY type of psychology, really (which would invalidate BBBB as a programme, obviously, but it IS rubbish, so no harm done) by cutting to the chase and saying "Grace was being quite nasty, really".

No offence taken; like I say, I ain't actually a psychologist as such...

I dunno. Previously, there seemed a bit more to it. This year, Blonde Psychology Woman (I'm sorry; I can't remember her name, and a Google search is turning up nothing) has consistently irritated me with her unbearable lightness of being a bit shit. The 'alpha' stuff in Week 3 (or Week 2?) was bad enough, but the supposed 'levels of bitching' thing just didn't hold together at all.

And yeah, in Grace's case, I think it would've been more interesting to hear some theories about why Grace is perceived as unpleasant. That might've stood some chance of bringing Grace a hairsbreadth closer to Selfawaria rather than smilingly reinforcing the sense that it was okay for her to behave abominably because she's clever and entertaining.

I've been thinking about the whole Grace phenomenon after reading this week's Heat (yes, I know), which trumpets "The FULL behind-the-scenes story of that INCREDIBLE eviction" and, actually, there were some interesting tidbits. Seemingly security was much higher than on previous evictions, and sniffer dogs were checking every guest (for what, I don't know). Apparently loads of banners were deemed offensive enough to be confiscated: Heat saw at least 20 ditched. As the evening wore on, Grace's mum was "taken away by security to a private area to calm down, after crowds taunt[ed] her with banners saying Grace Babe, The Only Pig In The City and chants of Get Grace Out". Grace's mother apparently ran at the crowd, screaming at them to shut their (possibly fucking, moose-like) mouths.

Heat confirms the speed with which Davina hustled Grace through the crowd, past banners and jeering, with security lining the path. Perhaps the most interesting bit, for me, concerned the studio audience:

10:09pm
Grace is led through to the studio to be interviewed by Davina. As the audience take position, the studio manager informs them, "My butt's on the line here. The chief exec has told me that you MUST NOT BOO". So that explains the cheers - we thought the crowd had softened all of a sudden.


I'm not sure how I feel about all of this. On the one hand it's good that Endemol's taking its responsibilities seriously where evicted Housemates are concerned. On the other, it's starting to seem, to me, that Grace is in danger of being overprotected from any serious sense of her actions having widespread negative consequences in terms of public opinion. It's clear that her family aren't going to sit down with her and explain, "people are angry with you because X, and it was wrong of you" but I'm genuinely unsure to what extent it's Endemol's job to try to reality-orientate.

Hmm. Perhaps it's just because I want to see Grace punished some more. Like, at all.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:20 / 20.06.06
See, I'd normally think the discouragement of booing to be a good thing. And I'm sure I will continue to think that.

But in Grace's case, it's all kind of invalidated for me by the look of smug superiority on her face on Lottery Night when she initially thought the chanting was people booing Aisleyne- who was really freaked even when she realised the chants were for Grace (see the difference?). (Sorry, I meant to post this in response to Hattie's Kitchen DAYS ago, but never got round to it, so now seems an appropriate time to bring it up). If there are rules to this type of behaviour, then Grace had tacitly agreed to bide by them with that.

Good to see Aisleyne nominated Mikey- I thought there may be something developing between them, which would have put the shitters on my dream of Mikey copping off with Imogen, to the general disgust of both Sezer and Grace. Surprised she didn't go for Imogen, though, for the same reason she chose Lisa.
 
 
Ganesh
20:24 / 20.06.06
See, I'd normally think the discouragement of booing to be a good thing.

I think we're talking the reaction in the studio. As far as I'm aware the studio interview is conducted amid a hand-picked crowd of family, friends and Endemol employees. I can only imagine it's the latter element that was threatening to boo...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:25 / 20.06.06
Ah, that makes more sense, actually. My point still stands, though.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
20:26 / 20.06.06
See, the current reaction of Nikki is the reason I really dislike her. Tears. I cannot stand her constant screaming or weeping, hand on her forehead, drama drama drama.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You have no idea, no idea!
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:29 / 20.06.06
I would normally say that, with a four-way split, the vote is going to be less predictable. However, Sezer scored a record negative percentage despite the vote being split three ways. So I predict a Lisa landslide!

Pop psychology then pop psephology! My next post will offer pop philosophy: This week Mikey is mostly thinking about airheads. Some think this means Imogen but Russell Brand says it's a reference to Anaximenes of Miletus. Lea is critiquing Schopenhauer's Negation of the Will with Nikki in the living room while Lisa lays the blame on Albert Camus when she finally snaps and strangles Richard in the garden.
 
 
Ganesh
20:32 / 20.06.06
My points still stands, though.

Yes, it does. I think they're fine with a degree of booing outside the studio but create an artificially 'approving' environment once Davina gets the Housemate inside. Frustrating thing for me was that, at the start of her interview, Grace referred to the cheering crowd, saying, "why weren't these people outside?" or somesuch. Just a shame it wasn't possible to say, "yeah, well, we've coerced these ones into cheering".
 
 
penitentvandal
20:36 / 20.06.06
Don't worry so. It is our job to reality-orientate the Gracist. With every pint of Stella we receive for the rest of our lives, if need be.

I was thinking - for all Mumsy Grace's 'top talent agents' bullshit, she can't get away from the fact that Grace is basically fucked right now whatever. I mean, what do BB housemates go on to in the best of circumstances? Jade Goody has her freakshow docusoap on Living TV. John Tickle pops up on Brainiac. Kate Lawler - as past winner, for Satan's sake, wound up as 'Lawler the Brawler' on Celebrity Freakin' Wrestling.* Most housemates wind up, what, opening supermarkets and doing PAs at dodgy club nights. Can Grace conceivably do this? Ffffffffffffuck, no. Clubs and supermarkets can't afford the same security budgets as Endemol. They basically have to make a choice between having Grace there and putting up with levels of chaos and Grace-hate that could well lead to property damage, personal injury, and potential lawsuits from Big Momma Grace, or not having her there and having shops and clubs that function normally. The profit margin from having Grace will not offset the cost and potential risk of having her there. Frankly, even if she is Mariella Frostrup's goddaughter, Grace is frinked.

AND THERE WAS MUCH REJOICING!

*Incidentally, why was Jerry 'The King' Lawler never brought onto that programme to pretend to be Kate's dad? If they'd done that, I could have watched that programme. But noooooooooo.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:38 / 20.06.06
I mean, what do BB housemates go on to in the best of circumstances? Jade Goody has her freakshow docusoap on Living TV. John Tickle pops up on Brainiac. Kate Lawler - as past winner, for Satan's sake, wound up as 'Lawler the Brawler' on Celebrity Freakin' Wrestling.* Most housemates wind up, what, opening supermarkets and doing PAs at dodgy club nights.

The fact that Eugene didn't replace Richard Whiteley on Countdown still fills me with sadness. Could you think of anything more fitting?
 
 
Ganesh
20:39 / 20.06.06
See, the current reaction of Nikki is the reason I really dislike her. Tears. I cannot stand her constant screaming or weeping, hand on her forehead, drama drama drama.

Well, to some extent I can see why being nominated three times in a row might make one react catastrophically.

On the drama front, this is precisely why I really like Nikki. She does drama like a small child, in the sense that a) it's intense but blows over very very quickly, and b) it's really quite hard to take her distress seriously. There's just something about her tone - and, crucially, her unintentionally amusing choice of words ("I ain't sucking arseholes!") - that makes me laugh, even when she's having a ten-minute tantrum. Here, it's the fact that she's directing the full Lady Macbeth at a camera.

And her face! It's like one of the vampires from Buffy, the way it scrunches and unscrunches in seconds.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
20:39 / 20.06.06
Yes! Worked it out!!! It's the way all the plastics think they're promised glory, and are so shocked that anyone should dare to vote for them. And then Nikki saying "How dare they nominate me!" Like thats not part of the game. Good, that girl. And she is still saying sucking arse! She needs a kick up the arse, or a blow to the windpipe. Or a wrench to the head. Lead pipe maybe. Lynching?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:40 / 20.06.06
I want Nikki to stay in purely so I can see if it's actually possible to come up with something even funnier than "I'd rather use... toilet paper!!!" She's raised the bar for herself, and indeed for everyone.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
20:43 / 20.06.06
It's like one of the vampires from Buffy, the way it scrunches and unscrunches in seconds.

Strongest truth every writen anywhere eva!!!1!!
 
 
Ganesh
20:45 / 20.06.06
And then Nikki saying "How dare they nominate me!" Like thats not part of the game. Good, that girl.

Being fair, Nikki's "how dare they" differs from the Plastics' sense of entitlement in that it might reasonably be appended with "again". Unlike Imogen, Mikey and Lisa (and, previously, Grace), Nikki has been nominated, more than once. She's arguably more justified than the others in throwing a "why me" strop.

And she strops so amusingly.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:02 / 20.06.06
Oh dear, Nikki can't take it any more. Fortunately, you'd never know because she's not the kind to scream I'm not sucking fucking arseholes at the camera on national tv. Hehe. She's a wonder! Possibly my favourite of the bunch to watch. Greatest entertainment value.

Aisleyne's looking better all the time but, like Stoatie, her furry streak turns me off a bit and could lose her public sympathy. She is shrewd though and often offers up perceptions the others would do well to listen to, now that Graceless isn't putting the evil eye on them if they do.

Glyn's starting to seem less wide-eyed and innocent. He's learning the game. I don't suppose he can be blamed for that but a large part of his public appeal rests on his Snowdonia Hillbilly routine, so the wilier he gets, the less endearing he'll be.

Imogen - who she?

Lea is just a mess. She has funny moments but increasingly her paranoia is damaging her ability to bond and she appears to think she's Jocasta to Pete's Oedipus. *shiver* She seems to be thrashing around constantly looking for proofs of her victimhood.

Lisa - get her out before she combusts and takes half of Borehamwood with her in a Dark Phoenix-like fury.

Mikey should really have a tail. As something said well back, he's livestock.

Richard still seems like the calm centre of the teenage storm to me. I am mystified by the accusations of game-playing. I don't know that I'd mind if he were playing out a masterful strategy but I think we've learned over 7 BBs that nobody is that clever. Glad he has Susie in there now to back him up and Aisleyne to have some fun with.

Susie seems pleasant in a rock star's wife kind of way. I like her mostly because she's ballast, balancing the pernicious influence of the Plastics, and taking care of Dickie.

Oh, and Pete. Forgot to include his name till I thought of him when mentioning Lea. I agree with Ganesh re Pete but I think the public's with Stoatie.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:09 / 20.06.06
Glyn's starting to seem less wide-eyed and innocent. He's learning the game. I don't suppose he can be blamed for that but a large part of his public appeal rests on his Snowdonia Hillbilly routine, so the wilier he gets, the less endearing he'll be.

I think so too. Of everyone on there, though, I think Glyn's probably getting the most from it. He's met a homosexual! And he wasn't actually scary! (And, well, one that was, but that's all in the past now). He's "kissed a blonde gerrl with big ones" while playing "spin the bottelle". Grace left the house the same person she went in. Glyn's gonna be unrecognisable by the time he comes out.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:14 / 20.06.06
Glyn's gonna be unrecognisable by the time he comes out.

Not half and, as we know from BB of yore, the GBP likes to see a journey. What a journey - from churning sheep curd for amusement to erotic asphyxia between Lea's zeppelins.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:19 / 20.06.06
It's weird... now tonight's BB has finished, instead of watching BBBM, I'm watching a Channel 5 documentary on the BTK killer... and I haven't had to retune my brane to get from one to the other...
 
 
h1ppychick
21:27 / 20.06.06
And then Nikki saying "How dare they nominate me!" Like thats not part of the game. Good, that girl.

To give the girl a modicum of credit, it wasn't so much the nomination, more the fact that she thought Losa was being totally hypocritical with her as she'd been reassuring her in the bedroom immediately before the nominations.

You've got to wonder how good the Diary Room soundproofing is, however.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
21:33 / 20.06.06
Cripes, yes. I always envision people standing outside with their ears glued to the diary room wall when Nikki's in there giving it some screamy shouty sweariness for two hours or so ...

... and then being blown through the glass doors with the sheer force of the word "ARSEHOLES!!!!!"
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:36 / 20.06.06
Yeah, I think it was more Lisa's reassurances before that "you're not gona get nominated" rather than the rules of the game that Nikki was pissed off with.

(Stupidly, this documentary on the BTK killer is called "The World's Most Elusive Serial Killer". Seeing as how they got him a couple of years back, that seems silly).
 
 
h1ppychick
21:43 / 20.06.06
Two shows tomorrow = new housemate going in. What do we think - comely male twins trying to fool the other housemates with the old switcheroo? That would be top notch.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:47 / 20.06.06
I'd like it to be a bear.

Not a "bear".

An actual bear.

If he can spit bees, so much the better.
 
 
Ganesh
21:52 / 20.06.06
If it was a bee-spitting bear, it would have to fight Pete to be L*rd *f th* B**s(!1!!)

What do we think - comely male twins trying to fool the other housemates with the old switcheroo? That would be top notch.

That's certainly been rumoured for a while, hasn't it? And I think there's a second concealed mini-house accessible through the Diary Room...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
22:10 / 20.06.06
A bear would be no match for Lisa. Better put in a rhino.
 
  

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