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Grant Morrison's Batman

 
  

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SiliconDream
07:14 / 07.03.08
No, Hurt is the criminal master mind who's telling Bruce his name.

Personally, I interpreted the "Is he telling me his name?" line as referring to the Black Glove, given what Bats is looking at in the same panel.

Not that the Glove couldn't be Hurt, I suppose.
 
 
Spaniel
07:21 / 07.03.08
They could quite possibly be one and the same, yeah.

Course, it's worth pointing out at this juncture that Grant engineered an encounter between Batman and the Devil on a previous occasion, so the idea that Bats is literally facing down Satan has the support of precedent.
 
 
The Natural Way
17:15 / 07.03.08
Dr Hurt's putting hypnotic triggers in Bats's head, he's engineering groups of psychotic bat replacements (who seem designed to trigger Bruce's worst fears) and quite likely to be implicated in the murder of one of their families in order to induce life-long trauma - he's the evil shit behind the whole issue, and the catalyst for the thought process that results in Bats reaching the conclusion that there's a big, Big Bad. I mean, it's not as though Bruce starts ruminating on this stuff at random. He's provoked by the story that Demon-bats tells. And if it turns out that Hurt is also the Black Glove, I won't be at all surprised.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
20:49 / 07.03.08
yeah. i'm enjoying this trip to Bruce's own personal hell, and Daniels' art is ironically quite fitting - if anything, his Bat-Mite gives me chills for the right reasons; some panels like the cop with dead family and blood pentagram, just feel wrongly done. hopefully a new artist will come in when It's Time.
 
 
Triplets
22:45 / 07.03.08
Yeah. Can I just say that I love Bat-mite talking to Bruce in the wood last ish? I'm not sure if they're a typical part of his design but the rough stitching on his cowl really makes him look like a doll that Death (or whoever) is holding up. Even his dialogue sounds like it's being filtered through something else.

And that close-up shot of him, with his big staring eyes. That's stuck with me. Now, traditionally, showing Batman's (or any hero's) pupilled eyes behind the mask has been a stylistic mark that it's a gritty! serious! take on a story (you can see Gunbat's eyes behind the cowl, for instance) but here Bat-mite's eyes are simultaneously realistic (pupils) and unrealistic (far too big), they stare right back at us from depths of the Uncanny Valley, which I thought was a great touch from Daniels.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:40 / 09.03.08
In the new ish, he's wearing death on his back like a rucksack/face-hugger, but I'm fairly certain it's not death ventriloquising. 'Zrrrf' (see ASS 6, Death in Smallville, for more) has been mentioned and 'gate 8' and, as I said above, it's all got very 5th dimension.
 
 
Triplets
22:21 / 12.03.08
My forbidden planet really needs to get the newest ish in stock.
 
 
Spaniel
09:00 / 13.03.08
Forbidden Planet, you say? Fucking hell, it's been two weeks. Les crap.
 
 
Triplets
21:27 / 25.03.08
They were pretty slack. Delay was long because the guy who sorts out the reserved list had taken a week off and they can't find their arses with both hands, apparently.

But new, (old) Batman. Mmm. It's good.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:17 / 01.04.08
Freewheeling backwards over dozens of pages (seriously, dozens, honeys), I picked up a cheap copy of the Batman & Son trade this week and I actually liked it better than I was expecting, even if it was far from perfect (Kubert didn't even make me want to vomit as much as I'd assumed he would). Damien could get ... old ... fast, but I liked Tim's reactions to him. I can't quite keep track of what's going on with Talia between this and other books, but whatever.

Alfred was spot on.

"The Clown at Midnight" was a bit of indulgent pulp fiction that didn't do very much for me by comparison to the main story, though I did like the "super-self" Joker concept as a concept.

One day, Harley should just eat the Joker and become ten times worse than him. I'd read that.

I'm actually glad that Bruce failed to reform Talia, because what? He's Wonder Woman all of a sudden? Reformation was never his schtick.

I would like to see more Black Casebook stuff -- does that come up later on in the run? Please please please?
 
 
This Sunday
21:30 / 01.04.08
Not that the Glove couldn't be Hurt, I suppose.

I know what this says. I also know how I read it, which isn't necessarily as what it says.

Now if only, in special comics lettering allcaps we can get Batman to say it. With a "goddammed" in there for good measure.
 
 
Triplets
00:10 / 02.04.08
I would love it if Batman had something called the Hurt Glove. In a special box. For special people. Who deserved it, obviously, but possibly for reasons only he was privvy too.

Better yet, if Batman could say, "The gloves are coming off but THE HURT GLOVE IS COMING ON" before administering a certain kind of justice.

Are you reading this, Grant?
 
 
The Natural Way
07:18 / 02.04.08
Has anyone seen that image doing the rounds, reversing the Death in the Family cover, with Robin cradling Batman's broken body? I'm not sure where I saw it now - possibly the latest interview w/ Didio over at Newsarama - and I'm at work so I don't have time to check. Actually it's quite likely it's there, 'cause he teases the events of the next ish. Sounds good.
 
 
Spaniel
11:48 / 02.04.08
Not in the interview.

Blog post?
 
 
The Natural Way
10:20 / 03.04.08
Yes it is.

From Dan Didio's Batman RIP interview @ Newsarama:

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'We open up in part one of “R.I.P.” (Batman #676) with a better-adjusted Bruce Wayne than we’ve seen in years, getting on with this life. Bruce is happy. The issue also contains two flash-forwards, one that reveals a coming confrontation with the Joker, and another that shows just where the Batman is going.'
 
 
Triplets
13:36 / 03.04.08
Does anyone else think that having an uber-baddy called "Hurt", who attacks Batman using psychological trauma, is both incredibly cheesy and great?
 
 
Spaniel
15:13 / 03.04.08
Yes

Pigs, the image of Robin carrying Batman, I mean.

Blog post?
 
 
The Natural Way
17:16 / 03.04.08
Fuck! I don't know where I saw that now.

Definitely did, though. It was some interview, that perhaps isn't up on Newsarama anymore, concerning Final Crisis and all the big DC events. Was someone important, too. Weird. Only read it last Saturday, I think.
 
 
Eskay Uno
17:44 / 03.04.08
Here you go.
 
 
The Natural Way
21:08 / 03.04.08
Cheers.

Robin looks like he's been shot in the forehead. Quick! Ambulance! Someone's shot Robin in the forehead!

Anyway.... Ties neatly in with 666, soesn't it? How's Bruce going to get himself out of this one? Secrets of death and all that, but I didn't think the imp meant it literally.
 
 
The Falcon
12:55 / 04.04.08
That's a Robin cover, dudes.
 
 
This Sunday
13:02 / 04.04.08
How's Bruce going to get himself out of this one?

Hurt Glove.
 
 
Spaniel
19:27 / 04.04.08
The only way
 
 
SiliconDream
03:45 / 05.04.08
Better yet, if Batman could say, "The gloves are coming off but THE HURT GLOVE IS COMING ON" before administering a certain kind of justice.

The Hurt Glove would have to be an ordinary rubber gardening glove with "YOU'RE UGLY AND YOUR MOTHER DRESSES YOU FUNNY" stamped on the palm, of course.

And Batman couldn't use it without first dimension-dumping his arms up to the shoulder.
 
 
Triplets
23:24 / 05.04.08
Of course.
 
 
krakaboom
03:58 / 17.04.08
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H3ct0r L1m4
15:01 / 17.04.08
i wonder who'll be the next Batman... apparently all the obvious candidates have been ruled out. so i guess is Alfred the only one left. or will we see an Alien Wayne of some sort?
 
 
Triplets
16:16 / 17.04.08
That one cover of Batman gurning with a shining red light above him and everything going very primary colour. Could that be him transporting (uplifted, abducted) to Zur En Arrh? Triplets thinks yes.
 
 
The Natural Way
17:06 / 17.04.08
Morrison didn't rule out any of the bat-candidates, Hector. He just talked about the kind of Batman they'd make.
 
 
Triplets
20:03 / 17.04.08
I.

I will be the new Batman.

Grant is going to write it.

It is a magick sigil.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
20:27 / 17.04.08
I will be the new Batman

A Neal Adams, hairy-chested, international playboy Batman no less, until, in issue four ...

(I will retire to the cave, for my cape)

I wonder if Mitchell doesn't need a rest though, again, or a change of scene. He's currently writing the last Superman arc, the last Batman story, the last DC Universe ... thing, etc. Nobody's going to pay a blind bit of notice, as well he knows; must he be such a buster?
 
 
The Natural Way
22:58 / 17.04.08
They will if they fully intend never to read another Batman/Superman comic again unless a good writer's on them.
 
 
Triplets
12:33 / 18.04.08
Speaking of Batman and decent writers... what ever became of Warren Ellis' go in JLA: Classified? His opening, with Bruce taking 90 pages to get his shoes on, seemed to be the only thing notable about it. Was it any good?
 
 
This Sunday
12:40 / 18.04.08
New Maps of Hell? I enjoyed it. I was the only one, very possibly, but I did. I even enjoyed the careful transformation sequences for the heroes that everyone else hated. And the sharpness to the Daily Planet banter. The bit with Lois and Clark and bicycle shorts that a thousand fanboys collectively went ick! at. And the extropian ethos turned bastardy cockiness vibe that permeated the story. It's one thing for the superhumans to be better than, but the story took it to a different level, where humanity was good enough, strong and smart and functional enough to defeat the enemy. The superheroes just look better doing it because they're all ripped and toned and capable of shooting sparky things out of their eyeballs and whispering naughty phrases to dolphins.

That said, it was not particularly solid Ellis. It was Ellis doing a favor, written long before it was published, and it kind of clearly reads that way.
 
 
The Natural Way
17:11 / 21.04.08
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If you check out the vid of Dan Didio and chum chatting away about Batman over at Newsarama, then you'll see that there's some fairly conclusive proof that The Black Glove's back in RIP.

Word 'em up.
 
  

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