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Supaglue
09:49 / 18.01.07
Ooh, I've just put a new character on a server called Archimonde, but it's english Speaking.

I got the game on the day of release - for a past-time that's supposed to be played by 1 in every 1,000 people, there were a whole lot of copies left on Tuesday evening.

Not headed over to the Outlands (although I'm just about to peak 60 - Woot!) yet but took a look at Exodar and the new starting points. The weekend is gonna be my first venture into the wilds. Problem is Nordrassil hasn't been that reliable - The new areas have crashed a couple of times, and the whole of the Kalimdor continent crashed last night, strangely leaving just the people left on Azeroth still online.

It's going to be annoying losing all my fancy blue and purple rare gear to better green items again....
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
03:16 / 19.01.07
BC pulled me back in. I just rolled a Blood Elf Pally (like EVERYONE ELSE) and am loving it. The noob area is enchanting, the quests varied and the Blooe Elf society if really interesting.

No regrets.
 
 
Hieronymus
14:54 / 24.01.07
On a wholly non-BC note, does anyone else have any experience running a guild? I've just become a guildmaster for a guild and am discovering it's a mountain of work. Organizing a forum webpage, a bank with up-to-date inventory on the web, TeamSpeak or Ventrilo, et al. Any tips or things that your guild does that have worked to make it a homey, inviting little clubhouse to be a part of?
 
 
Supaglue
15:24 / 24.01.07
I've not any experience in running a guild, but I was a signatory to the one I'm in, last October and it's going strong with 120 members or so.

The guy who's the guildmaster puts hell of a lot of work in - forum and its editing, setting up a bank for gold, mats, recipes, arranging a 'Dragon Kill Points' system to allow people who contribute the most to teh guild, to take more out, and so on. I think WoW provide the shell for a forum that can download players stats and stuff.

Form the sound of it, I think you've covered the main areas that need sorting - Teamspeak and the like. Do you have a calendar add-on that connects to the guild? That's pretty useful. As is the Raid Assist add-on, if you raid alot.


It's the little touches that make our guild though - every now and then they'll do some silly fun stuff - A hide 'n seek around Stormwind, a lottery sweepstake, quickest dungeon run.


Another idea I saw on a roleplay server was to get a theme - The one I'm thinking of had a Roman style to it - all the officer titles had names like centurio, praefectus, or whatever. Another one was all pirates and demanded a dress code. They looked sweet going around as a gang with parrot pets.
 
 
Hieronymus
15:38 / 24.01.07
Yeah, I've inherited leadership of this guild from founders that got their high tier gear and then just abandoned us. So I'm doing what I can to patch up the group and have really good officers at my back.

We've only now had a few members crest 60 so I've been picking the brains of WoW veteran friends I know about how to handle end-game organization (a DKP system, etc). Not easy at all but it's something I feel like needs to be codified for the guild to continue to exist as something more than an overblown pick-up group. The guild's named "To the FACE!" so I immediately went in and re-designed the ranks to look more criminal underworld. Punks, Bruisers, Buttonmen and the capo.

But the fun stuff... that's something I've been wanting to create more of. To make the guild a pleasure to be a part of and not a gaggle of strangers to one another. So that hide and seek idea or a lottery sounds fantastic. I'm currently trying to amass some decent guild bank funds for drunken parties, etc or to buy the winner of some inner-guild contest a nice piece of gear.

Any other ideas or anecdotes from people about contests or games within their guild would be so appreciated.
 
 
Peek
17:31 / 24.01.07
Running a guild is very hard work. Make sure you have some trusted officers to delegate to or you'll burn out fast and end up quitting.

I'm not guilded in WoW, but some of the stuff we used to do for light relief in Everquest was:
- set up buff stations in newbie zones (less useful in WoW but still..)
- treasure hunts - make sure they don't just buy things!
- naked L1 gnome races across dangerous terrain, bragging rights and a cookie for the winner
- guild-run quests for new applicants (that was fun.. macroing the responses, organising some basic kit and a little cash for rewards, other guildies helping the applicant along a bit if our directions were a bit obscure.. parking highlevels as "NPCs" in the bottom of newbie dungeons and stuff...)
- hide and seek, hide the officers in various places with some worthless tokens to hand out, first to get back with (say) five tokens gets bragging rights
- same-race noob nights (eg everyone create a dwarf, no twinking, rampage!)
- don't use large monetary/high end kit rewards, or people will cheat. Yes, they will. And there will be tears before bedtime.

Not sure how well this stuff would translate to WoW which works very differently and has a different demographic. Get the guild involved with thinking up ideas (one of our problems was always that everyone would apparently look to us - there would be loads of people log in and sit around saying "So what are we doing tonight") You will probably also find that it'll be the same small group that participate every time, and nobody else will care, so make sure YOU have fun with it or you'll feel grumbly and resentful.

As far as end-game raiding, we never used DKP but kept track of who'd had what, who'd contributed what in terms of time and attendance, and handed out raid rewards accordingly. This will not work with a group that aren't already familiar and trust each other, or with a very large guild. Officers have to be ruthlessly fair as well. Whatever rules you choose, ensure everyone is clear on them and then stick to them without exception.

The thing that seems to do most for guild spirit is to have lots of lively guild chat, lots of in jokes, always acknowledge another guildmate you bump into with a /wave or a cookie, always help out, encourage others to do the same. Get shot of the freeloaders and leeches. Organise real life meets, if you can, if there are enough folk within reasonable striking distance. Have everyone turn up in a white hat, or something, to aid recognition and break down shyness barriers - or get some tshirts printed up with a suitable guild slogan.

Feel free to PM me if you like!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:06 / 30.01.07
Yet again, I thought I'd tired of this game. My account was frozen for a couple of weeks because I hadn't paid off my credit card bill, and I bought a pre-payment card. That was three days ago. I hadn't logged in ONCE, and was starting to think I'd wasted my money. Now it's just gone 11pm, when I thought it was about 8-ish, and I've lost another day to the bugger.

Mind you, I had a wicked time in the Scarlet Monastery, and made some new friends. Don't think I'll be able to afford Burning Crusade this month (though I may be blagging a free one off a friend...) but I'm back in Azeroth, and yet again it has me by the balls.

DAMN YOU, BLIZZARD!!!
 
 
Supaglue
14:24 / 31.01.07
If yer planning on getting TBC Stoats, don't spend any gold and save everything relevant to your profession.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:28 / 01.02.07
...why?

I don't have much gold at the moment. I'm still saving for a mount.

To be honest, when I get TBC I'm planning on starting a new character anyway, to check out the new races...

...will bad shit happen to my current character when I install it? You've got me all worried now.
 
 
Hieronymus
02:04 / 01.02.07
Maybe he's referring to the money needed to buy a flying mount?

Otherwise I've no clue. As Outland cash is disgusting in its abundance.
 
 
Supaglue
15:29 / 01.02.07
Heh, that was probably a bit oblique - I meant that buying the older stuff from AH is a bit of a waste of time as the newer items from Outlands far outstrip them - and alot of them come from quests. I'd spent a wodge on Darkmoon fayre card decks with a view to selling them and interest suddenly dropped off.

Also, I dunno about yer server, but there's been a bit of inflation about our AH

Yeah I was referring to saving yer cash for the epic mount (15k is still hell of a sum!) - and training will make a dent - 10g a skill increase. Also, I'm an alchemist and the newer recipes take a big hike in the amount of ingredients .

It is easier to make cash through the portal, granted, but I made myself pretty poor buying new shit in Outlands before the grinding paid off. I'm just shit, mind.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
07:46 / 16.02.07
So, my new computer came today, and I can finally play this. It's great, although it took hours to download all the patches. I got a few hours in, and my Blood Elf Paladin is now sixth level. I love my Blood Elf Paladin. He has anime hair and a cool triangular shield.

I haven't ranged very far yet, just done a bunch of quests to get a full set of beginner gear. I can tell I'm going to spend a lot of time in Azeroth. Poor NWN2. It's gonna be a while before I start it up.
 
 
Seak
12:03 / 16.02.07
With barely time to breathe, I've managed to get to 61. Outlands is amazing - although it does suffer somewhat from entering about a month after everyone one else.

Getting groups for the instances is difficult, although there are a few people in my guild of similar level which does make things much easier. Plus I now regret spending any money at all on items, because I'm wearing a new set of greens and there's an epic mount to save for and I need resist gear for raids and... and...

But the scenery still amazes me. Winterspring was fantastic, but Hellfire Penninsula with its floating islands of rock, and blasted red landscape had me in fits of giggles (admittedly partially inspired by over a month of anticipation). Then I moved into the next zone - cooling blues and green, quiet soundtrack and woodland Ents strolling about. Magic.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
22:50 / 18.02.07
I'm level 18 now. I started on a low-population, role-playing server, but now I'm kind of regretting it, because there isn't anyone around, and absolutely no one roleplays at all. It's okay though, because I'm having a blast all by myself, and I haven't been anywhere but Silvermoon and the Ghostlands so far. I am revered in Tranquillien. It's nice to be appreciated.

I'm off to read up on mining. I can't seem to find anything other than copper, even though I paid for the training.
 
 
Mistoffelees
07:50 / 19.02.07
I'm off to read up on mining. I can't seem to find anything other than copper, even though I paid for the training.

In the start areas, there isn´t much more than copper. For example, if you start as a dwarf/gnome, you´ll be around IF/Dun Morogh for the first levels, and there´s just copper. Then around lv 14, you go to Lake Modan, and there´s a bit of other metals, but not much. You should find more metals, once you reach the third area in your early twenties.
 
 
■
20:12 / 19.02.07
Whu? Server down? Where did all that washing-up come from? Where am I? Is there a laundry trainer around, I need to get my skills up.
 
 
Saint Keggers
20:30 / 19.02.07
I wish this game had frequent flyer miles. I spend more time on jumping around on a gryphon or riding a ship and using my carrot driven wondercat than I do actually playing the game. Grrr. Lvl 52 and I want a motorcycle.
 
 
Aertho
14:08 / 20.02.07
Am I Barb's first 70?

Outland is SUCH an improvement over the 1-60 areas that I find it hard to go back and play alts. Instances are bite-size and easy enough to do 2 or 3 in a night. Gold falls from everything. Greens have expanded from the "of the animal" variety to include more important stats like crit and defense rating and mana regen. "Of the Elder" = Drood lewtz!

Urthona chose to become a Scryer, at the expense of certain +int inscriptions... something his Moonkin form regrets. But I'll be able to make Arcane Resist gear for myself and other LW friends.

Speaking of oomkinning, Holy god my class was improved! Treants, Tree of Life form, Lacerate, Cyclone, Mangle, Lifebloom, ... for a while I used to think druids were the gimp class. Now I walk through feilds of elites with my Shadow Priestess friend and Warlock leveling partner. Curse of Shadows should be our guild name.

I'm having a blast cooking too. Everything has a 30 minute bonus. My favorite is Basilisk Bites which gives me +20 spell power.

I miss Zul'Gurub though.

Whats odd is that in conversation, we rumor about the NEXT expansions, what Blizzard should-have-done, and what to expect in the future. I prefer to imagine the new "Maelstrom" expansion zone, with the choose-your-faction "Goblin" race, the Golblin Trade Princes of Kezan, Deathwing finally being found, Zandalar and Rastakhan, Dalaran opening, and the new tradeskill of "Woodworking" that you need to build ships that take 5 people to pilot.
 
 
locusSolus
09:23 / 27.02.07
Hmm, so if I'm thinking about starting WoW, what server/character would be the best? I'm in US EST btw.
 
 
Feverfew
16:40 / 27.02.07
Cassandra, I have to admire your imagination, there.
 
 
Supaglue
10:17 / 01.03.07
I like that idea Cass. A carpentry profession - you could make staffs and bows at lower level (no-one can make them at the moment as far as I know), building up to making carts (or boats. Pirate boats!) that can carry a group. That'd be quite fun. You'd have to be able to gather types of wood from trees though.
 
 
Bear
17:41 / 01.03.07
I miss this game a huge ammount now, when I first stopped it wasn't that bad. I think it's the BC that's done it I'm a sucker for taming pets and knowing that there are new things out there that I never got makes me wish there was a South American version of this... any hunters here? Have you tried some of the new critters?
 
 
Aertho
18:04 / 01.03.07
Woodworking is merely something we bat around... I doubt it's even possible without an enormous patch dropping new trees into the existing lanscapes. Still, it'd be cool. Could make arrows, traps, staves, bows, wooden trinkets, toys, decoys, and finally Ships, which alter the gameplay entirely.
 
 
Spaniel
21:34 / 01.03.07
So we know where you've been then
 
 
Aertho
04:18 / 02.03.07
I make my own adventures now.

:-)
 
 
Hieronymus
18:01 / 02.03.07
The hard part with ship development is that Blizzard likes to have that part of travel utterly controlled. It would be awesome to incorporate that somehow when, if ever, they open up to the sea around the same time they open up Nazjatar and the Maelstrom. There's been talk about an expansion into The Great Sea and I'm sure they'll do it eventually.

But given the huge stall that is Burning Crusade, it'll be a while.
 
 
Hieronymus
18:10 / 02.03.07
any hunters here? Have you tried some of the new critters?

My tauren hunter is 65 and I recently tamed a green ravager from the Outlands named Jalapeno. He's a damn fine little tank and DPS disher. But since BC came out, all pets have been nerfed and equalized. Save for a few powers in caster pets (worst pets in the game) and Warp for Warp stalkers, there's nothing specifically special about pets that you don't put into your talent tree. Before BC, some pets were better at some things than others. And if you did your research and knew where to look, you could snag them. Now... homogeny is the name of the game.

Which to me, utterly ruins the novelty of camping out and taming that speciality pet. I tamed Brokentooth back in the day, waiting at the same area for days and days and days because he had the fastest attack speed. Tamed, he used to slap enemy casters silly. Now? Meh, his speed isn't any different than any other cat, polar, hawk or turtle. Which I find about as asinine as not finding whiskers or claws on cats when collection questing.
 
 
Aertho
16:29 / 05.03.07
it'll be a while

Well, Ofc. I'd been part of a pretty active guild with several 60s for about 3 months prior to BC coming out. So you can imagine the shock and joy we're all experiencing when quest rewards make sense, professions seem balanced and nuanced, and instances shorter and more edible.

If Blizzard was capable of such a vast improvement with their first expansion, we simply ask and imagine 'what do the next expansions hold in store?'

Personally, I'd like the group dynamics to switch up. Perform an instance where reliance on a set tank and a set healer have no bearing, but rely more on timing and coordination. Instead of 5 people as one fighting force, 5 people as one entity - namely a Ship. One to steer the rudder, one to operate the sail, one to repair the ship's damage, one to defend with cannons. A different kind of skill set entirely.
 
 
Triplets
15:41 / 06.03.07
Chad!
 
 
Aertho
16:29 / 06.03.07
:-D
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:22 / 06.03.07
So, BC arrived today. My main character's still not high enough level to go through the Portal, but I don't care, as Joeyramone the Draenei priest is having way too much fun. And the crashed ship is beautiful.
 
 
Supaglue
10:30 / 08.03.07
What server you on Stoats?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:21 / 08.03.07
My new one's on Khadgar... at some point I'll create a Horde character too.

If anyone else is starting from level 1 again I'm more than happy to join them.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:59 / 09.03.07
OK, my main now has a parrot.

Why, in the year-and-a-bit I've been playing this, did nobody tell me you could get a parrot?

Fucking hell. This is the best anything ever.
 
 
Aertho
14:02 / 10.03.07
You DO realize that if you commit yourself to killing the goblins of Booty Bay, Ratchet, Gadget, and others affiliated with Steamwheedle Cartel, you GAIN REPUTATION with the Southsea Buccaneers. If you achieve exalted or soemthing, you gain access to a Pirate vendor, from whom you can buy pirate gear.

This cosmetic move comes at the price of never being able to step inside a Goblin city.

Enjoy!
 
  

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