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Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:24 / 09.08.06
The last page of #14 - Those are some *fucked up* eyes.

But! Mercury! I've always had such a big, soft, liquid metal heart for the Metal Men. I'm almost inspired to work some more on my Vertigo Metal Men imaginary story thing.

Otherwise, I now desperately want Eric Powell to draw a Metamorpho series.
 
 
Spaniel
19:11 / 11.08.06
Did we all spot the "AUUUUUUU"?
 
 
The Falcon
21:10 / 11.08.06
Mercury at the start?

I just noticed, in #13, a shady figure in the distance viewing mad Ralph Dibny under the bridge. What can his (doubtless) sinister plan entail?!?!?!?
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
21:15 / 11.08.06
Writing a blog under Ralph's name?
 
 
Spaniel
18:30 / 12.08.06
Wasn't really a question, dunc, more of a "yay, look Morrison got an "AUUUU" in".
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
17:40 / 13.08.06
I thought it was a Booster Gold reference...
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
19:53 / 13.08.06
So what's the Auuuuu all about then?
 
 
Spaniel
19:55 / 13.08.06
Grant likes 'em.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
20:37 / 16.08.06
*ahem*

So. Issue 15. I don't want to spoil it yet, but reactions?


(And if Supernova is actually a bad guy or something, he's doing a very good job convincing me otherwise)
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:57 / 17.08.06
Enh. The issue - and that scene in particular - more or less underwhelmed me. I wanted more screen time for Renee and "Charlie" Question. And Mercury! They dangled Mercury in front of me and...and..

I want my damned Metal Men. Damn it.

Supernova...well. I hope it turns out to be someone new.
 
 
Professor Silly
15:37 / 18.08.06
In regards to Supernova's behavior in 15--he still seemed heroic and maybe even honorable, yet he also displayed a level of smugness and self-rightousness. If this were the Marvel Universe, I'd suggest it's Hawkeye...but being DC I'm not coming up with many heros of this flavor.

Considering every power displayed could be the result of a high-tech suit, Green Arrow came immeadiately to mind...but he usually reserves his attitude for the "rich white elite," or whatever. I've seen Aquaman written with smug undertones...but really I think I'm good and stumped.

Who the heck IS Supernova?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:19 / 18.08.06
I want it to be someone new, someone who's never put on a suit before.

Hell, maybe it's Doctor Light with those fancy-schmancy illumination powers...
 
 
Mario
16:22 / 18.08.06
The leading theories I've heard, so far, are:

Lightray of the New Gods (my choice), and

The Pre-Crisis Booster Gold.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:27 / 18.08.06
Was Booster even around Pre-Crisis? Or do you just mean Pre-IC?
 
 
Mario
17:15 / 18.08.06
Pre-Infinite (he was actually the first major pre-Crisis character). The argument seems to be that the Booster that left after Countdown was in some way different from the one that turned up in 8C.
 
 
gridley
17:16 / 18.08.06
His powers do seem very similar to Booster's. Maybe Booster from an alternate time stream?
 
 
Mario
17:16 / 18.08.06
I mean he was the first major POST-Crisis character
 
 
Optimistic
13:17 / 19.08.06
Considering the problems with Skeet's files being incorrect/corrupted (whatever), could the Booster we've been reading until now be from a different timeline? And Supernova's the "real" one? (so to speak)

Anyone?
 
 
Mario
13:28 / 19.08.06
It's not impossible.

From a recent interview, it looks like Supernova is somehow connected to Galaxy Broadcasting.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:32 / 19.08.06
Maybe it's Blackrock!
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
18:25 / 19.08.06
Or maybe Batroc!
 
 
doyoufeelloved
19:02 / 19.08.06
Or maybe MODOK!

 
 
FinderWolf
14:06 / 20.08.06
I know Booster has been a jerk for most of 52, but he really acted horribly right before his 'death' (I don't buy it yet...I bet he's back in 1/2 a year). Could Supernova have done something to Booster's mind to make him go *extra-psycho* in front of all Metropolis? It's very fishy how Supernova just makes the threats he faces 'go away,' like zapped away to the 'cornfield' from that old Twilight Zone episode. Makes me think the threats Supernova has faced are staged/fake threats as well, like many of Booster's...

Metal Men alive again! Yay! (well, at least Mercury)

Will we ever get a connection drawn between the Bulleteer's SmartSkin and Steel's new metal skin, I wonder, given Morrison's involvement...?
 
 
Spaniel
18:41 / 20.08.06
God I hate that Steel storyline, it's a mess of cliches, lazy concepts and appalling characterisation.

I agree about Nova, it's all too convenient and reeks of staging.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:00 / 20.08.06
Beautiful. 52 is series of the Earth just for covers like these:


Solizzits:
The story of the year continues in four more chapters of America's only weekly super-hero adventure!
WEEK 26: “How altruistic can you be when you’re funded by LexCorp?” Plus, The Origin of Hawkman by Waid and Joe Bennett.
WEEK 27: “It’s Jean Loring. Sue’s murderer.” Plus, The Origin of Power Girl by Waid and Adam Hughes.
WEEK 28: “Maybe our time here is over. Red Tornado’s gone walkabout.” Plus, The Origin of Catman by Waid and Dale Eaglesham.
WEEK 29: “Th-th-they’re going to kill me. S-S-Supergirl’s going to kill me.”
“That's — the BLACK MARVEL FAMILY?” Plus, The Origin of The Joker by Waid and Brian Bolland.
WEEK 30: Get ready for the story you never expected! "Batman...No More” — a full length 22-page adventure featuring Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and...Batwoman?!?
 
 
FinderWolf
23:40 / 20.08.06
So Red Tornado's head hurtled through space and made earthfall in Australia...?

Yeah, the Steel plot is getting a bit tiresome... let's move it along, folks. I love the T.O. Morrow and Will Magnus plot, though.

And I think we're going to find out a lot more about Skeets soon and why ze's time/history spider-sense has been so messed up. Some have speculated that Skeets might be eeeevil or messed up a la Hal 9000.
 
 
Rachel Evil McCall
13:36 / 21.08.06
I can't wait to see how they manage to fit the origins of Hawkman and Power Giurl into only two pages each...

Also: Catman! Whoo!
 
 
Jackie Susann
05:59 / 22.08.06
If there's one thing I can't get enough of, it's ignorant overseas writers offensive stereotypes of indigenous Australians.
 
 
Evil Scientist
09:45 / 22.08.06
I can't wait to see how they manage to fit the origins of Hawkman and Power Giurl into only two pages each...

Ditto The Joker.
 
 
Evil Scientist
09:54 / 22.08.06
If there's one thing I can't get enough of, it's ignorant overseas writers offensive stereotypes of indigenous Australians.

It's a stereotype I agree, but could you expand on why you find it offensive please?
 
 
Jackie Susann
21:26 / 22.08.06
Because there are already more than enough know-nothing misrepresentations of a culture struggling for its continued existence in the face of 200+ years of dispossession and attempted genocide?
 
 
Evil Scientist
12:30 / 23.08.06
Because there are already more than enough know-nothing misrepresentations of a culture struggling for its continued existence in the face of 200+ years of dispossession and attempted genocide?

Okay. But that doesn't explain why the picture is offensive. Why is the picture a know-nothing misrepresentation?
 
 
Aertho
13:04 / 23.08.06
Anyone who's seen Crocodile Dundee knows that the aboriginal people of Australia don't run around in loincloths and carry spears. Now the cover characters might be, in the context of the story, on some survival-walkabout thing, but there's no evidence to imply that. So instead, it's just nekkid dark-skinned people portrayed as exotic savages, again.
 
 
Evil Scientist
14:05 / 23.08.06
Now the cover characters might be, in the context of the story, on some survival-walkabout thing, but there's no evidence to imply that. So instead, it's just nekkid dark-skinned people portrayed as exotic savages, again.

A picture, they say, paints a thousand words. However you are right that it's all about the context. Considering it's cover art we will have to wait for the actual story to see whether or not it's an "exotic savage" stereotype.

Considering that Uluru is a big part of the local Pitjantjatjara people's belief system it isn't beyond all reason to suppose that they are in traditional dress for religious reasons is it?

I understand that Westerners should be extremely careful in what context they portray any society that has been as persecuted as the native Australians have been by us and I'm not trying to be obtuse here but I genuinely can't see why the picture is offensive. I have no idea if Morrison is writing the Red Tornado parts of 52 but his depiction of native Australians in the past (ie The Invisibles) has semed to me to be respectful.

I'm sorry if this is making me look a little ignorant but can you explain this to me in a little more detail?
 
 
Aertho
14:34 / 23.08.06
I would assume you to know quite a bit more about Australian religious practices than the great comic-buying public.

I'm suggesting it's in the tradition of western artists to put exotics in various states of un-dress. That we are also expected to assume that the portrayed nudity is spiritual and customary is related —and also telling.
 
  

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