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The Falcon

16:55 / 23.06.06

Actually, while I've enjoyed a lot of 52... my God, did the Kate/Montoya scene suck enormous amounts of ass. Greg Rucka certainly seems to have ownership of these characters, and a rep for liking lesbians, but so bad were the dialogue and captions I can only assume Geoff Johns, who has apparently never spoken to a human in his life, penned them.

Best bit (read: 'worst') is when Montoya mentions how glamorous Kate Kane is and Ken Lashley has chosen to draw her like a malformed stick figure.

LDones

00:41 / 24.06.06

Anytime Montoya shows up in this comic my eyes start to glaze over. Her dialogue reads like softcore porn about detectives. Beyond The Valley Of The Hacks.

Jake, Colossus of Clout

01:47 / 24.06.06

The Montoya bits are unquestionably the worst of the series so far. I'd like to actually see The Question occasionally, y'know...

My translation of Johns' (or whoever's) scripts: "Look, everybody! A lesbian! A woman who has sex with other women! She's hot! And tough! Isn't this sexy!?" I honestly have no idea what's going on in the Montoya plotline except that she's a lesbian with a raygun.

FinderWolf

13:09 / 07.07.06

So now we're in "Steel Steel" land! Hmmm.

In the Wizard website series where cover artist J.G. Jones discusses the creation of each cover (kind of a cool feature), he says [about Devilance the Pursuer] "Grant Morrison wrote this, so of course it’s some old Kirby character we haven’t thought about in 40 years." lol.

The Natural Way

14:30 / 07.07.06

Fight between Steel and daughter very crap indeed. I just want to pre-empt anyone justifying this wholly unlikely, piece-of-shit character interaction as 'a standard trope in comics... the Xmen are always fighting and they're in love..etc' by saying before time: SHUT UP.

But WHOLE PLANETS AS TRAPS? JesusfuckYES!!!

Good thing about 52 - there's always something fun to make up for all the bad.

So Grant appears to be doing Booster and Buddy. I know they reckon they're mixing it up, but, c'mon, it so much easier if each writer focuses on specific characters, innit? Taling of Grant and cool things; why oh why has nobody mentioned the best line in any comic ever, courtesy of Booster Gold in 52 #8, 'Shut up or I'll punch you in the neck!'?

tickspeak

20:13 / 07.07.06

That sounds like Excalibur-era Warren Ellis to me. And Stormwatch-era Ellis. And Planetary...you get the idea.

The Natural Way

10:04 / 08.07.06

Grant enjoys comedy violence too. From Big Dave to Seb O.

My personal favourite:

'How I detest the poor...'

diz

12:47 / 08.07.06

I honestly have no idea what's going on in the Montoya plotline except that she's a lesbian with a raygun.

You know, phrased like that, it sounds so much more interesting than it actually is.

Spyder Todd 2008

18:46 / 12.07.06

I'm not going to say much about Issue 10, except...

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SPOILERS!!!!

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...Mister Mind!!!!!!!!!!

Spyder Todd 2008

19:03 / 12.07.06

*Ahem* As in "I demand more..."

Mario

19:04 / 12.07.06

I thought the easily missed revelation about Black Adam was interesting...

LDones

00:09 / 13.07.06

Pretty confident Supernova has something to do with or *is* Lex Luthor.

His original color scheme from JG Jones' 52 cover blog clinches it. And now he's practically wearing the damn American flag.

Mario

00:50 / 13.07.06

I've heard it suggested he's Lightray of New Genesis. That works for me.

Spyder Todd 2008

17:02 / 13.07.06

The "Shazam" line Mario meantioned was quite interesting. I'm curious where they'll go with it.

Is anyone paying attention to JSA OYL (I'm not)? Has anyone seen our dear Adam? I'm suspecting not, but maybe in the new Shazam! series. Too bad the writer of it doesn't excite me...

Eskay Uno

18:40 / 13.07.06

For those of us who don't know much about the Marvel family/DC mythology, why exactly was that "Shazam" line so significant? I don't get it.

Mario

18:48 / 13.07.06

Saying "Shazam" should have summoned the magic lightning that transforms him into his mortal form.

Nothing happened.

doyoufeelloved

19:15 / 13.07.06

Is anyone paying attention to JSA OYL (I'm not)? Has anyone seen our dear Adam?

None of the 52 leads will appear anywhere else in the DCU until after 52 has concluded -- gotta keep the suspense, y'know?

rabideyemovement

01:20 / 14.07.06

actually, they keep pissing me off by mentioning some of the 52 plot threads in the OYL books.
Teen Titans spoiled a bit of the Super-resurrection cult. Superman blabbed about how Lex once more falls from grace.
They need to be extra careful with that stuff.

Professor Silly

16:34 / 14.07.06

I think they intend the majority of the suspense to remain in the how's and why's, not the what's and the when's.

The Black Adam thing is interesting--if memory serves his "Shazam" invokes different names than Capt. Marvel's, no? Perhaps his mortal form died? Or perhaps he has been severed from the magics of transformation? What will the long-term consequences be?

I don't like the idea of Luther being Supernova--as Kent points out, Supernova seems to display an experience of helping others--such as the little boy nearing the giant hole in the street--that I don't think Luther could fake.
That said, I have no alternative suggestions to offer.

John Octave

17:17 / 14.07.06

I think the original green-and-purple design is more of a nod to Nova, the identity Superman took on when he lost his powers rather than Luthor's color scheme. Also, Luthor is never subtle when it comes to public good deeds, and so if he used the metagene therapy on himself to be the next Superman, he'd do it unmasked so everybody would know what a swell guy he was and how much they should love him.

Actually, I prefer the theory that Supernova is Booster Gold from the new/revised 25th century. Booster's subplot is paving the way to a Booster/Supernova confrontation, and how great would it be for Booster to find out he's been fighting his own doppelganger, and that "our" Booster is the evil twin (or at least the ethically questionable twin)?

Mr Tricks

21:08 / 14.07.06

considered the 7 Soldiers thread for this sighting but I figured it would sit fine here as well...

is that Phil Jimenez art?

Professor Silly

21:46 / 14.07.06

Wow, John (can I call you John?), that's a fantastic theory! It has a wonderful symmetry about it!

I was leaning toward one of the previous Flashes...but I don't think any earlier version of the Flash has any kind of connection to Booster Gold...so I'm liking your idea more.

The Falcon

21:50 / 14.07.06

That's definitely Philly J. I'm sure I read somewhere he was doing one upcoming ish.

Assembled are: Flamebird (?), Bulleteer, Firestorm, is that Ambush Bug? and I have no idea who the big chap is.

Mario

22:57 / 14.07.06

Firehawk, not Flamebird. That is Ambush Bug, and the big guy might be a new Black Bison.

LDones

23:17 / 14.07.06

That World's Finest cover throws my Luthor theory. I've wondered if it was a new Booster, too, since the current Booster seems slated for death in the not too far future.

John Octave

16:55 / 15.07.06

My dear professor, I wish I could take credit for the theory, but it's actually been making its rounds around the internet for a while (probably a few pages back on this very thread, even). Still, it makes more sense the more I think about it, especially since everyone seems reluctant to say that Supernova actually has powers. He flies, teleports and fires a "peculiar eyebeam" that makes that truck disappear, all of which can be done mechanically (and I think I would wet my pants with glee if Supernova did the trick with the truck using a Phantom Zone projector).

The Falcon

14:03 / 17.07.06

Short Newsarama article about the - thank God - end of that howlingly awful Jurgens History backup, to be replaced by Waid-penned two-page origins, some pretty class artists:

Wonder Woman - Adam Hughes
Elongated Man - Kevin Nowlan
Metamorpho - Eric Powell
Steel - Jon Bogdanove
Black Adam - JG Jones
Lobo - Keith Giffen
Joker - Brian Bolland
The Question - Joe Bennett
Animal Man - Brian Bolland
Adam Strange - Kevin Nowlan
Catman - Dale Eaglesham
Nightwing - George Perez

"And many, many more artists are lined up. Ivan Reis. Jerry Ordway. Andy Kubert. Adam Kubert. Lots."

Eric Powell, plus Hughes and Bolland sequentials particularly excite me - although, y'know Waid shouldn't be writing Buddy Baker's.

grant

14:07 / 18.07.06

Ambush Bug?

In 52??

Reallly?????

The Falcon

14:43 / 18.07.06

Yeah, they've bin saying pretty much from the off he'd be in. I'm not really privy to the appeal, having never read a comic featuring said, but I know he's got big cult appeal.

FinderWolf

19:12 / 18.07.06

Ambush Bug is seriously VERY funny, high-quality satire/comedy stuff. They should do a paperback of all the best AB stuff...but sadly, they have not yet, so it's just back-issue hunting (or downloading off the net) if you care to check it out. And the Bug's creator, Keith Giffen (who wrote & drew all AB appearances, except for his one panel in the first CRISIS) is doing 52, so I trust he'll be in true form.

15:20 / 19.07.06

Brian Bolland drawing actual comics again! Good news, even if they are only two pages.

gridley

16:34 / 21.07.06

So is Renee being set up to be the new Question? Is this his way of training his replacement?

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

17:14 / 21.07.06

Seriously the prettiest thing I've seen in ages.

Phex: Dorset Doom

17:24 / 21.07.06

Yeah, I can't stop looking at them either. The people in the picture I mean, Wonder Woman and, I assume, some other characters, or something. Maybe there's a pretty background, like two planets right next to each other

Spaniel

18:18 / 21.07.06

I'm gonna say it.

Phex, that has to be the worst description I've ever read.

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