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Big Brother: Revenge of the Sixth.

 
  

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Alex's Grandma
02:38 / 06.06.05
On a separate note, will I get canned off here if I admit to finding Saskia's 'back-story' relatively interesting ?

And if that's all right, if that's all right, is it ok if I say that I love her, very much ?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:51 / 06.06.05
I know that some of you PC extremists think the worse of me now, but it can't be easy for her, in there. Just because 'in real life' Saskia presumably can't really move for guys putting 'roofies' in her drinks, doesn't mean she isn't a brilliant person ?!
 
 
Ganesh
06:37 / 06.06.05
What is Saskia's backstory?
 
 
Spaniel
08:58 / 06.06.05
Wot I woz wondering.

Spill!
 
 
Fist Fun
09:50 / 06.06.05
I like Saskia the most although I don't like anyone this year. It was fun when Science threw a bin at Maxwell. Science is very weird.
 
 
Ganesh
10:38 / 06.06.05
He is.

All I know about Saskia is what's on the C4 bio and the Endemol-spun summary in the first show ("normal girl", big tits, quarter-Sri Lankan racist, wants to be a footballer's wife). What's yer source, Alex?
 
 
DaveBCooper
11:10 / 06.06.05
Coming late to the party, but:
Craig’s revitalised after surviving the eviction process ?

Why then, this is the year 2000, and as god is my witness, my time machine DOES work!
 
 
Spaniel
11:18 / 06.06.05
But only if you wire it up to your balls.

Alex, get here right now and explain yourself!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:32 / 06.06.05
I wish I had anything better, but Saskia's 'back-story' would be the story about her back, and the burden it's under.

I'm sorry.

And I know that I've probably made baby Jesus cry in heaven, and that the abyss yawns a lot wider for me after that gag, but, I regret nothing. Or everything. It's one or the other.
 
 
Ganesh
18:58 / 06.06.05
Ummm... okay.

In other news, a suspect package was found at the House, and a bomb disposal team called in. Perhaps picking up on the creeping sense of dislike/disgust with almost all of the housemates, no-one alerted or attempted to evacuate them...
 
 
Shrug
19:15 / 06.06.05
I heard that Saskia was raised by pirate werewolves in a barn in Norwich.

I wonder what was in the package and also how was it suspect?
 
 
Ganesh
20:25 / 06.06.05
Roberto being preachily patronising to Kemal about how he came out to his parents.

Cunt!
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:27 / 06.06.05
Pompous Roberto explains to Kemal how he ought to have gone about coming out to his parents. Shut the fuck up, Mr Ed.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:29 / 06.06.05
Ganesh rifling through my brain from his desk there feet away and forecasting my posts. D'oh!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:35 / 06.06.05
Big Bro wireless headshare!
 
 
tea and biscuits
20:51 / 06.06.05
Previously I just disliked Lesley due to snobbishness, now I dislike her because she's a disgusting bully. Come on, she wasn't even attempting to pretend it was a joke there.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:52 / 06.06.05
Interestingly, in her row with Mary, Saskia said she'd had open-heart surgery twice and that therefore this is proof she would not have had a boob job. A fairly fascinating back-story, if true.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:53 / 06.06.05
I should add here that it appears to be a complete lie, given the fairly fundamental lack of open-heart-surgeryesque scars.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:07 / 06.06.05
I agree that the whole 'Sam's make-up bag is lost' game is pretty nasty fare given the previous belongings she's also 'mislaid', and I think the playground bullying aspect of it seems to be Moonpig's first real attempt to assert her position in the group. She seems to have reverted to school tactics that may have worked for her in the past, that of 'make a gang and find someone smaller to pick on.'

I don't actually think it was entirely Moonpig's idea, or that she would willingly have let it go on so long, except that it's finally giving her some power in a group where up till now she hasn't had any.

As for the bad attempt at interesting tabloid fare in the shape of several bodies in one bed, it is the epitome of everything that is dull about this years BB. It was like watching a group of adolescents do something deliberately because they thought it might make everyone sit up and take notice, even down to the fact that the rest of the group had to come and have a look. As a seven year old child I wrote 'DOOM' on the door of a shed and set up a 'witches coven'. All we used to do in there was make potions consisting of something, something, and gelatin (always gelatin). I don't know why, but this 'baby sex' has made me recall that.

Other things: Makosi's Christian ideals seem to be fast fading, given the lap-dance she gave Science. What's the score there? Was that a blatant attempt for TV minutes and is the Virginal Christian image no longer required?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:14 / 06.06.05
Mm.

I'm not entirely sure if I even want Roberto to come in my face, now.

Still, Kemal must be thinking 'Phew, glad I'm not at school in ********* *****, otherwise I'd have been ******* up over a ***** ****, ******* ** blood everywhere by now*.'





* None of this has been legally substantiated, I should stress.
 
 
Ganesh
21:21 / 06.06.05
I don't actually think it was entirely Moonpig's idea, or that she would willingly have let it go on so long, except that it's finally giving her some power in a group where up till now she hasn't had any.

It wasn't; it was Craig's idea, but Moonpig and Vacuum hardly needed much persuading. Like a twisted Wizard of Oz trio, Craig found confidence, Moonpig found (male) approval and, as you say, power, and Vacuum briefly found an actual voice (has she actually contributed anything so far?)

The highlights show really screwed Sam over in their editing of this, making her out to be the aggressor, getting hysterical over something petty. One doesn't really get a sense of quite how long the "prank" went on for, and how nasty the atmosphere was, with everyone sniggering as they watched Sam hunt more and more frantically. Not nice.

Saskia's open-heart surgery? Well, without a very close examination (under those pendulosities), I'd be wary of saying there're no scars...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:23 / 06.06.05
Pity me, for I had to read (and summarise) the Daily Star's "BB TXT MANIACS". Apparently Lesley is the "ultimate bird", "bonny face / dirty bitch I would do her". Someone gave these people fingers. I blame God.

Seriously, and almost on topic, this year is the year I'm quite tempted to watch it (well, I HAVE to read about it in the papers, so I may as well know etc). I intended to tonight, but missed it. Am I missing "fun to watch" stuff, or is the ever-decreasing amount of newspaper coverage an indication that this one's dead and dull? Or is it likely to REALLY kick off and be top telly?
 
 
Ganesh
21:24 / 06.06.05
As a seven year old child I wrote 'DOOM' on the door of a shed and set up a 'witches coven'. All we used to do in there was make potions consisting of something, something, and gelatin (always gelatin).

OMG!!!! You are Mary Teh White Witch!!!1!!

Or maybe Sypha Nadon (except you meet people).
 
 
Tryphena Absent
21:24 / 06.06.05
Moonpig has let me down.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
21:27 / 06.06.05
The highlights show really screwed Sam over in their editing of this, making her out to be the aggressor, getting hysterical over something petty

Did you watch the coverage last night? I thought the highlights were pretty close to what I was viewing... once Sam's hysteria set in it really set in extremely fast.

That's not to say they were right to bully her like that, they should have given it back when she got genuinely upset... that's why Moonpig let me down.
 
 
tea and biscuits
21:30 / 06.06.05
I don't know whether it was just me, but the puppy-sex left me feeling really rather uncomfortable. Maybe it was the way they kept switching the shots back to Roberto sitting alone and looking uncomfortable, but they seemed very purposefully exclusive and showy. (Do I even need to say attention seeking? That seems so much a given with so many of the housemate's actions, could it be the new g*me pl*n?) As such they managed to shut half of the group out of the proceedings but I identified much more with those not engaging than those who were.

It's rather interesting that the girls have partially banded together on this one as opposed to individually fighting for attention. The boys don't really seem to mind.
 
 
Shrug
21:46 / 06.06.05
Also on the "Wow Moonpig how could you!" bandwagon, the look on her face, her cold hard face, there was real venom there. Poor cyphersam.
Equally agree with the cunt statement about Roberto and glad that Kamal ,articulate as ever, was able to make him see the error of his ways? Could the forlorn self-hugging be a sign of forthcoming repentance? I feel that Roberto definitely came off worse in the argument and realises this at least.
 
 
Shrug
21:55 / 06.06.05
Actually thinking about the argument and the hugging were probably hours apart and I'm just connecting the two because of the edited time frame. Still it's a sign he feels like shit and he deserves to the bastard.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:59 / 06.06.05
How does this compare to previous years? Is it worth jumping on this time?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:19 / 06.06.05
Difficult to answer that, Stoatie - really depends on what you're after. Speaking entirely for myself, I'm happy just sticking with this thread so far.

I've previously become hooked every year around weeks two and three, as the biggest tworks fall by the wayside and more honest, solid relationships start to be built in the house. That's what I get out of it, I guess - seeing how they interact when the desire to perform and constant awareness of the cameras falls away. From what I've read here and the little of it that I've watched, though, it seems to be a condensed rerun of last year's, only with a bunch of people who are even more despicable than anyone who's been in the show before. I was expecting that I'd be up for it after Mary was booted, what with her doing exactly the same things to my head as Kitten managed previously, but it's not happened yet. Maybe if they can lose Maxwell sharpish.
 
 
The Puck
22:21 / 06.06.05
No. just a bunch of unlikable, socially backwards, fucktards arguing about nothing.

I am so dissappointed this year not one of them is even bearable. Watching that programme is picking at my scab of misanthropy.
 
 
Shrug
22:28 / 06.06.05
IMHO
Yes do, especially as you have to collate data on it anyway. This year is quickly becoming very good whether it's relating to the volatile mix or the contestants as separately volatile, insecure, narcissistic entities. There's infighting and bitching and misrepresentation, a nasty streak of mob mentality coupled with revelatory insights into people's characters/thought processes that have surprised me. Comparatively with other years: it could be a contender!
 
 
Smoothly
22:35 / 06.06.05
Definitely worth diving in, I reckon, Stoatie. It's really early days for one thing, and if you've been reading this thread as well as the papers then you're perfectly prepared. Don't listen to Puck; like the rain in June and sunshine in November, people always think it was different last year. I, for one, pretty much always hate them all at the two-week point. It's part of the journey.

So what are people's assessments of Big Brother the machine, this year? Every series there's a slightly different approach - the rich and poor, surprise new housemates, Big Brother as Evil... is there evidence of any themes emerging so far in this series?

Talk of a 13th Housemate having a particularly nasty time of it seemed exaggerated when Makosi's secret mission quickly resolved and her sentence as unlucky-13 expired. But giving Saskia the chance to be Big Brother makes me wonder whether social/political power and status are going to be the thing BB fucks with this year, that housemates are singled out for special treatment individually and behind closed doors.
There seems to be more evidence of BB being more untrustworthy (allowing Sakia to manipulate and then observe Maxwell's diary room session for one thing, but also the way housemates were wrong-footed in the counting challenge).
What I think might be interesting about this approach is that sooner or later housemates are going to realise that Big Brother is not always telling the truth, might not be keeping their secrets and might have snatched the body of one of the housemates at anytime. If Sakia lets slip her complicity in Maxwell's (rather adorable, I thought) diary room confession, then people aren't going to trust the sanctity of the Diary Room, are going to be less likely to confide in BB and it could introduce a new tactical element. If increasingly fiendish secret missions continue to be assigned, they're going to work it out one by one. If their last refuge of privacy is removed, then it's going to ramp up the paranoia and insecurity. Look at how much Roberto relies on it for escape and reassurance. Could be interesting.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:55 / 06.06.05
How does this compare to previous year's ?

I'll happily to bow to superior wisdom on this, but it seems to me that this year, they're all falling apart psychologically a bit more quickly than usual. I mean it's only been a week...

Recommended bedside reading would be JG Ballard's short stories, plus you'll almost certainly need hard drugs, and lots of them, as well as a decent cellar, but once you've got all that organised, and are suitably medicated, watching Big Brother end to end is pretty much the way to go in the English summertime.

You can trust me on this.
 
 
Ganesh
23:04 / 06.06.05
Did you watch the coverage last night? I thought the highlights were pretty close to what I was viewing... once Sam's hysteria set in it really set in extremely fast.

Saw bits of it, and the live updates, in real time, gave me some sense of pace. What the highlights didn't convey, I thought, was the build-up, the amount of planning than went into coordinating six housemates against one (with Craig doing most of the legwork), and the run-up to actually hiding the bag itself (mainly "let's all ignore her").

I agree that, once she discovered the bag missing, Sam became distraught pretty fast. Did we see Derek's part in it? Rather hypocritically, he's subsequently had a go at Sam for waking him hunting for her bag (despite knowing full well where it was concealed). Moonpig went one step further in pushing Sam to apologise. To her.
 
  

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