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The New Doctor Who

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14:02 / 10.05.05

apparently the Yanks want to rename the series, completely oblivious to the Dr Who history, to something like Rose and the Mysterious Stranger. Basically they like Rose, not the Dr.

Where did you see that? All I've heard was that the Sci Fi Channel didn't like the production values.

19:34 / 10.05.05

The Sci Fi channel don't know their arse from their elbow. They axed Farscape, after all.

Anyway, not wishing to annoy people too much, but I've just seen the Empty Child, and thought I'd offer the warning that no children should be allowed to see it before their parents. Mainly because it'll give parents such a bad case of the willies that they won't want to risk their kids imitating it before they've had a chance to prepare. Think Sapphire and Steel crossed with Goodnight, Sweetheart. Brr.

[Sleeping with the lights on tonight]

Oh. My. God. Best. Two-parter. Evar.

20:50 / 14.05.05

Where did you see that? All I've heard was that the Sci Fi Channel didn't like the production values.

I can't name my sources but someone who's worked on the whole Who thing very closely.

But he did say they blew the FX budget within the first few episodes... and the next one looks VERY CGI heavy. Maybe the producers found a couple of thousand down the back of the sofa.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

23:33 / 14.05.05

I thought tonight's was great (well, last night's, really, but, y'know, time travel and stuff)- a nice blend of the classic horror Who and the skiffy "laws of time travel" stuff. Had I not been so drunk I may not have found it quite as emotionally involving, but I was, and I did. It was beautiful.

And very Luther Arkwright (not to mention Donnie Darko), which is never a bad thing. (For big dragony things, think Disruptors. I could be way off the mark here, mind... I haven't read LA in years. But I'm about to start reading it again now.)

I'm sure when I watch it again tomorrow I'll be able to find millions of flaws in it, but on an immediate watch... y'know, the way MOST of the audience will be expected to view it, rather than us geeky internet people... it was excellent. One of my favourites yet.

00:17 / 15.05.05

not to mention Donnie Darko
Well, a whole room of 'lithers (that's about three, in case you're curious) said the same thing. It does bear re-watching, thanks to the dad's brilliant performance. Anyway, the series is on a reaaly big upward trajectory from here, and I think you'll see exactly where the SF budget got blown next week.

00:43 / 15.05.05

Found this (last) night's episode the most emotionally involving thus far. Time travel stuff fairly hokey but, within that, there were some stunning performances (Rose's father) and amazing special effects (the Time Antibody creatures were appealingly Boschian, with their combination of fishlike bodies and claws/fingers).

Our Lady Has Left the Building

07:44 / 15.05.05

The best episode yet. I watched it this morning and couldn't stop the odd tear or two. And explains a few things from earlier episodes. Nice to see where Rose gets her intelligence from. But, as well as Rose and her Dad (and someone, I think possibly in the RT, said about how Billie Piper has been a revelation in this series and, despite the slight air of condescension I agree), the scene in the church with the Doctor and Stuart and Sarah, where he hears how they got together and says "Who said you're not important? I've travelled to all sorts of places, done things you couldn't even imagine, but, you two! Street corner... two in the morning... getting a taxi home... I've never had a life like that. Yes, I'll try and save you."

The one possible complaint, if the Doctor had got back to the TARDIS and it hadn't gone, would he really have left Rose behind? Slight double standards with the end of last weeks episode? I think the ambiguous nature of how it's played lets them get away with it.

09:21 / 15.05.05

Told you it reminded me of Crime Traveller. And people sneered. Tch!

09:26 / 15.05.05

Next week's episode looks very good.

10:35 / 15.05.05

But where was the bad wolf reference? I didnt catch one this week.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

11:12 / 15.05.05

Oh, I didn't want to give the impression that I DIDN'T think it would be worth watching again... just that I was fairly hammered when I watched it last night and didn't want to get too, too effusive about it before watching it again sober, in case it turned out to be poo.
But definitely one of my favourites, along with... erm... was it called "Ghosts of London"? The Charles Dickens one, the third episode.

So we're about half way through now, and the general consenus seems good... seems about the right time for people to start telling me which they thought have been best so far.
Anyone?

Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!

12:45 / 15.05.05

But where was the bad wolf reference? I didnt catch one this week.

Graffiti on the wall around which Rose and the Doctor sneak as they watch themselves, and make a second go of it.

ONLY NICE THINGS

12:53 / 15.05.05

I'm loving that Cube keeps on mentioning that he's seen episodes from the future... AS IF HE WERE A TIME TRAVELLER. Do you see?

I'll watch this again at some point when less sleepy and tipsy, but I really liked it. It was the sense of scale ... when Ecclestone mentioned, almost in passing, that the entire world was like that - that the world had ended off-camera, it was a beautifully shuddersome moment. Strong performance from Eccelstone, all round. The trauma is starting to come out, which might explain why he is being inconsistent about Rose/Adam.

13:48 / 15.05.05

I love the way Haus repeated himself just there just as if he was Rose doing the same thing all over again. ;-)

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

17:05 / 15.05.05

Do you mean he double-posted?
And then WENT BACK IN TIME TO CHANGE THINGS?

Dear God, Haus, what have you done???

Our Lady Has Left the Building

19:03 / 15.05.05

But if time's going to be erased, so none of us remember this, can I just take this opportunity to say you're all a bunch of fuckers and I hate each and every one of you!

Our Lady Has Left the Building

19:04 / 15.05.05

... Shit. Erm, look over there, it's the cast of CSI: Miami murdering nuns!

01:59 / 16.05.05

Yeah, I got all sucked in emotionally on this one. Surprised me a bit.

***spoilers***

When her mom was telling young Rose about the mysterious woman who held her father's hand as he died... and.... oh.... I think I might go have another good cry....

17:12 / 16.05.05

Quickly: RTD to be interviewed on Front Row tonight, apparently.

(Also, next episode's trailer: Rose looking kinda like Jenny Sparks, hm? Hitch influence to the fore, anyone? Rah!)

Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!

23:41 / 17.05.05

Cock.

Apparently, the BBC has started cutting parts of the next episode. Right here.

Hm.

07:26 / 18.05.05

Oh, crap. I think they're probably right, though. If I'd seen that when I was young it would have completely freaked me. Parents would just not let kids watch it any more. It'll still be scary, though. Shame they had to go and spoil the Captain Jack gags.

07:50 / 18.05.05

I've found this really interesting page which posits that the TARDIS is 'bad wolf'.

20:35 / 18.05.05

Nope, I'm sticking with the Company of Wolves theory. Someone is hairy on the inside. My money was on Jack, and it still is.

21:04 / 18.05.05

Handy to have all the Bad Wolf stuff on one page and his theories are quite interesting BUT as I've said before RTD threw in all the Bad Wolf stuff without really knowing where he was going with it.
The episode Bad Wolf is either nothing to do with it (I can't remember what my friend told me) or does explain it entirely but isn't written by RTD because he couldn't be bothered to work out the mystery he'd invented.

One thing I do know though... the last two episodes should feature the return of someone/thing we all thought was dead.

14:14 / 19.05.05

Sorry for being dense, but what/where is the Company of Wolves theory? I've looked over this thread and I can't find it.

My Barbelith time-travel is failing me.

ONLY NICE THINGS

16:04 / 19.05.05

Company of Wolves - Angela Carter, I think is the reference - the theory being that one of the good buddies we have so far encountered is in fact the big bad.

16:35 / 19.05.05

Micky! You Bastard! You've turned into the Master...

Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER

19:16 / 19.05.05

"Micky! You Bastard! You've turned into the Master..."

Wasn't this practically the plot of the TV movie?

I do still have my doubts about the Doctor in relation to the whole "hairy on the inside" business...either he's really, really traumatised, or he's putting on a big hammy show and is the Master. Of course, what would be more interesting would be if the set-up was something along the lines of the Ian M Banks novel "Use of Weapons", where

-SPOILERS FOR FINAL TWIST IN BOOK-

the protagonist isn't in fact the wronged party in his youthful trama, but his murderous foster-brother, who has since convinced himself that he was his own victim. So Ecclestone could have been the Master all along, but so fundamentally fucked-up by the Time War that he's convinced that he's the Doctor.

-END SPOILERS FOR FINAL TWIST IN BOOK-

The whole "Captain Jack" business could be interesting if it's done sensitively, especially considering certain hints in one of the Eighth Doctor novels (Vampire Science, I think)...

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

12:37 / 20.05.05

According to the tabloids, the episode "Bad Wolf" features some sort of future reality TV/gameshow dystopia- the Big Brother house, and that kind of thing (and, I think, The Weakest Link, somehow). Sounds terrible on paper, but it's written by RTD, and I reckon he might pull it out of the bag.

12:38 / 20.05.05

'According to the tabloids'?

Regrettable Juvenilia

13:08 / 20.05.05

My money was on Jack, and it still is.

Jack being a character introduced in tomorrow's episode? It can't be him, then. The Welsh psychic girl tells Rose: "You've seen the Big Bad Wolf" - past tense. So it's got to be someone or something Rose has already encountered.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

13:39 / 20.05.05

Yeah, Biz, there was a thing in one of them a couple of nights ago about Channel 4 letting Who use the Big Brother house (hey, don't blame me- I get paid to read this shit).

14:04 / 20.05.05

Oooooh. Oooooh.

If the Doctor is the Master then that would explain the whole 'leaving after one series' thing which Ecclestone is so reticent about.

16:54 / 20.05.05

Jack being a character introduced in tomorrow's episode? It can't be him, then. The Welsh psychic girl tells Rose: "You've seen the Big Bad Wolf" - past tense. So it's got to be someone or something Rose has already encountered.

Seen him? Jack's been around a bit. Nothing to say she didn't serve him a few years ago in her shop when he was a doddery old man. Yes, I admit it's stretching confronted with the Welsh girl's exact words, but there is something in "Doctor Dances" that suggests there's more to him than meets the eye. Nothing obvious or plot spoilery, unless (like me) you're looking for it.

Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER

18:21 / 20.05.05

If the Doctor is the Master then that would explain the whole 'leaving after one series' thing which Ecclestone is so reticent about.

The more I think about this, the more I want it to be true...
Given that the tvfilm still seems to be canon (despite the Tardis being un-Gothicked), we're still waiting for the explanation of the McGann/Ecclestone?Tennant? regeneration, as well... I'm assuming this is to be done off camera?

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