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15:39 / 18.08.05

V For Vendetta release date being moved to Spring 2006, allegedly to allow "more time for post-production."

Translation: Somebody saw the rough cut and panicked.

Prediction: Expect further announcement of delays, a gradual waning of mainstream interest, a rising stink of flop-sweat coupled with a gradual radio silence. Press releases will halt. Broken images will start showing up on the website.

V FOR VENDETTA will finally limp to the marketplace in a direct-to-DVD release some time in 2008, in a version so heavily cut and rewritten that it's entirely incomprehensible—that is, if it's not simply shelved outright—and the fanboys will be too weary to even complain (again) that Hollywood can't seem to get Alan Moore right.

Somewhere in the night, a beard that walks like a man weeps, and Don Murphy feels briefly vindicated.

Keith, like a scientist

16:01 / 18.08.05

I'm sure that the London train bombings came to bear on this decision as well.

01:10 / 19.08.05

That seemed too obvious to be worth mentioning, so I didn't.

Keith, like a scientist

01:21 / 19.08.05

ah. i thought your comment about the 'saw rough cut and panicked' was saying that they thought it was bad... no matter how good the trailer was, i'm still pretty sure there is going to be massive amounts of suck in this movie.

02:18 / 19.08.05

So, is there not the teensiest possibility that they’re telling the truth about the reasons for this delay?

Only, y’know, I haven't actually made any modern, SFX-laden, blockbuster-type films myself, but it always seemed like a rather tight schedule to me, to start shooting something like this in March and have it in the cinemas by November the same year. Maybe they really *do* need more postproduction time for all the effects and fiddly sound things and stuff. Maybe the 5th November thing was only ever a way of getting headlines in normal newspapers and places other than the nerdy fan press, and maybe there’ll be a similar ‘the film that was too dangerous and challenging to be seen by the sheeple after the London bombings!!1!’ campaign come March.

09:41 / 20.08.05

Nah. As much as the trailer seemed pretty good, I suspect Jack Fear has seen the future, and that it is murder.

10:04 / 20.08.05

The point of a November 5th 2005 release was specifically the 400th anniversary of the attempt to blow up parliament. That is a tight deadline, but it seems odd at best that the film's makers and distributors didn't decide to put the release back a year to Nov 5th 2006. I just strikes as being akin to releasing Independence Day at Thanksgiving...

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

02:14 / 21.08.05

I really do have to laugh at the people making hay out of this in the media, and wonder if they realize that its based off a graphic novel written in the 1980s. They seem to think that this is a new, deliberate assault on current actions. Its like boycotting video stores for carrying "Independence Day" after the 9/11 attacks.

And yeah...the trailer DOES look good. But then again, so did the "Van Helsing", "Underworld", and "Leage of Extraordinary Gentlemen" trailers.

Really the only watchable Alan Moore-based movie has been "From Hell", and that was only vaugley based on the book.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

12:58 / 21.08.05

I'd argue that 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' was actually a good film and did seem to be trying to stay in the vague area of it's source material for a while before deciding to say bollocks to it. Tom Sawyer was dull but Dorian Grey was fun, as were the changes made to the storyline. It's heart was in the right place.

14:41 / 21.08.05

Have you ever listened to producer Don Murphy's commentary on the DVD? Defensive, clueless, condescending: he swears up and down how much he loves Alan Moore's work, while failing to demonstrate any understanding of what actually makes the League an entertaining comic—then justifies dumbing the story down because that's what the audience wants. So horrible I watched it twice—once in jaw-dropping astonishment at the film itself, the second time with the commentary to se how anybody could've thought this was a good idea.

That said, Dorian Gray: Bulletproof Fop was a nice concept, if poorly executed.

ONLY NICE THINGS

18:44 / 21.08.05

Certainly my enjoyment of the film was marred at the time of its release by the suspicion that the DVD commentary was going to suck...

LXG was a very silly film, which I remember as having some fun moments, mostly as Jack says focused around Dorian Gray, but whihc made some spectacularly bad decisions - most obviously, putting a father-son relationship between the reliably hammy Sean Connery and the utterly uninteresting Tom Sawyer at thhe heart of the film, immediately clogging its arteries.

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

21:12 / 21.08.05

"What are you?"
"I'm complicated."
...as he regenerates from having a soldier empty an entire clip into him. That was priceless.

It was an awful movie, but there were some scenes in it that you do have to enjoy. The tank in the beginning was great. And...c'mon. "Automatic firearms? How unsporting! Probably Belgian!"...though what that scene REALLY needed was to then have Ford Prefect show up, get shot at, and duck under a table screaming "Oh, belgium!"

Now, if only the Invisible Man had been Hawley Griffin instead of Rodney Skinner, things would have been inifitely better. And...y'know...if Mina hadn't been a vampire.

15:15 / 31.08.05

Back on track...

LA Times article on the problems plaguing V FOR VENDETTA.

Official reasons for the March release date, while acknowledging it's not the full story:

The Wachowski brothers, who wrote the screenplay, saw a cut in recent weeks, after which it was returned to the editing process — but it isn't clear whether that means the excising of particular screen moments that might hit too close to reality's home. (The Wachowskis declined to be interviewed.)

David Lloyd seems closer to the mark:

"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist — there is a lot of truth to that and it raises issues that cannot ignored nor should be ignored in light of what's going on in the world today," he said.

But Lloyd's voice had a tinge of resignation in it as he spoke on the phone from his home in a coastal resort town in the south of England: "I just hope the film comes out here. I can see a certain unfolding of events over the next few months that might make it difficult for this film to be presented and accepted in England."

Lots more at the link.

15:32 / 31.08.05

>>>Have you ever listened to producer Don Murphy's commentary on the DVD? Defensive, clueless, condescending<<<

I remember in another thread you described it as "the aural equivalent of staring into the cold, soulless eyes of a murderer", which is possibly one of my favourite things anyone's ever said about anything.

Sorry, back on track!

17:25 / 31.08.05

"The mask is covering an idea, not a person. That's the mask come off. Hugo is a great actor but really, it didn't matter at some points who was under the mask. We're under the mask."

Thanks, Nat.

Although this actually gives me hope that Evey, at least, will be mildly compelling even though she'll no doubt say some stupid, awful shit. I find Portman mildly terrible (tho' she did NAIL the accent in Garden State) but sounds like she's at least committed. Or she has a decent publicist.

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

23:12 / 31.08.05

Weavings is a good actor, but I do find it worrying that he never read the book.

And now...well...

"There is no flesh and blood under this cloak, Mister Anderson. There is the Matrix. And the Matrix is bulletproof."

...but anyway.

Rewatching the trailer, his accent is good, but...I dunno. V's speech bubbles always suggested this creepy, vaugley maniacle way of speaking. The voice of someone who was so far gone to his own psychoses that he was coming back around to sanity again (albeit a very odd sort of sanity).

lonely as a cloud...

06:38 / 01.09.05

Well, whatever V went through in the prison camp is supposed to have made him ultra-charismatic, so I always imagined him having a rich, very theatrical voice. But that's just me...

11:20 / 01.09.05

Richard Roxborough went for that in Van Helsing with, uh, interesting results.

Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!

23:45 / 11.11.05

As to Eggy in a Basket...

Okay, I was as irritated by this as everyone else here, but Nobody's Girl mentioned that it does sound British when I told her about it. I refused to countenance such a thing, saying it was absurd.

Then, a couple of months ago we sent her brother away to college, and as we were discussing how he was going to feed himself (being a very poor cook) NG looked through one of his "Cooking on a Budget"-type cookbooks, and what did she find? Could it have been...

Eggy in a Cup!

Who knew?

00:32 / 12.11.05

Yeh, but, was it an American cookbook for cooks with poor cookluck?

Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!

19:34 / 13.11.05

Um... no.

British cookbook, in Britain, for a British boy, going to a British Uni.

More British than boiling food 'till it submits.

20:16 / 13.11.05

Well, my mum used to do "egg in a window" which was a a slice of fried bread with a hole in the middle into which sh broke and fried an egg. Guess what I'm off to cook now?

20:41 / 13.11.05

Eugh. We did things differently in the 1970s, didn't we? Even with a taste for fried food that was quite manky and explains why such a dish died out. I reckon Eggy in a Basket could be a regional variation which, quite correctly if that was anythign to go by, died out.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

08:03 / 14.11.05

I think we may be over-egging the pudding here...

08:15 / 14.11.05

Do you think it's because powedered egg on rations was still to clear in peoples minds?

Keith, like a scientist

12:35 / 16.11.05

lonely as a cloud...

14:30 / 16.11.05

"BASED UPON CHARACTERS APPEARING IN MAGAZINES PUBLISHED BY VERTIGO". Now there's a credit. Couldn't they have just credited David Lloyd?

14:56 / 16.11.05

Since when was a pointy knife more important to V than a big comedy stick of dynamite? Or roses?

17:36 / 16.11.05

God, I hope that's not for real. It looks like a fan job.

18:16 / 16.11.05

Its ok! all early 20th century eastern european revolutionaryness with PRODUCTION VALUES.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

17:35 / 17.11.05

Well, Alan Moore will be pleased, his name isn't on it. I quite like the vague feeling of 'Soviet propaganda poster' that they're going for here, but I'm not sure if the odd angle on Evey and V helps any.

23:15 / 17.11.05

"An uncomprising vision of the future from the creators of the matrix"

Only that they compromised the vision of the book and the relationship between the author and the company (I know I know, DC and Moore haven't been friends in almost twenty years but this was the straw that broke the camel's back).

I'm not sure I'll be seeing this because I haven't seen the other two Moore adaptations. If I do, I certainly won't be paying for it.

Phex: Dorset Doom

18:06 / 24.11.05

More V posters, all of which are very nice, here

18:10 / 24.11.05

They're okay. I give them credit for at least TRYING to do something other than the usual photoshop headshot montage crap, even if the actual execution is a bit clumsy.

Why the fuck do they include the "Army of V" on the posters? Surely that's a scene that's kind of climactic?

02:11 / 25.11.05

I like 'em. That constructivist stuff always did have weird angles in it.

Female delegate, stand to the fore! 1931

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