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23:12 / 03.03.06

Check it--they're all in Slaughter Swamp!

Coolsville.

23:35 / 03.03.06

There's still a Volume 4 TP to come, which I imagine will feature our boy Frank rather prominently.

00:22 / 04.03.06

>>>Check it--they're all in Slaughter Swamp!<<<

You didn't notice that from the first two covers?

Fun to see how these are working out...I'm very curious to see the final volume cover.

01:37 / 04.03.06

Who was it that was on Vol 3 again? Paquette?

Though it was no doubt the hardest yet to draw, I also think it's the weakest. The first thing that struck me with your cover Cam, was that it was a very odd Zatanna for you to draw. Then I saw Bianci's cover from Vol. 1 and realised that it was actually a very good interpretation of his Z.

I find the third cover a bit jarring. It doesn't follow suit in the same way. Klarion and Guardian don't look much like yours at all, and if it is Paquette, I don't think it's up to scratch with his internal comic art. Alix looks very crude in comparison, especially since it's his character.

01:51 / 04.03.06

It is Paquette.

02:08 / 04.03.06

Hmmmm.

I've been totally loving his work in Bulleteer, but I'm really not sold on this cover.

Don't suppose it matters at all though, since I won't be buying the trades.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

07:21 / 04.03.06

Mr Tricks Might Frankie's absence from these cover spell out death for our not-quite-dead hero?

Although he's a Grundy and it is Slaughter Swamp so...

The Soldier dies in SS #1 though, not hir individual story. And is it just me or does Klarion on the latest cover now look very Jake Gyllenghalish?

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

16:14 / 08.03.06

From Newsarama:
SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 PRICE AND PAGE COUNT UPDATE
SEVEN SOLDIERS #1, the final chapter in Grant Morrison’s mind-boggling megaseries, will arrive in stores as a 48-page issue with a cover price of $3.99 U.S.
Due to this change, the issue will be made returnable at a later date.

Yay!

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

16:27 / 08.03.06

THANK FUCKING METRON!!!!

16:41 / 08.03.06

So... which Soldier will die? I have an oddball theory, but first, let's look at the candidates.

1: Zatanna. No chance in hell. She's far too popular.
2: Shining Knight. Possible, since Ystin's story basically ends if the Sheeda are defeated.
3. Guardian. Unlikely, since there are hints of him being used elsewhere.
4. Mister Miracle. They just brought him back... killing him again would seem anti-climactic. Plus, if 8C takes place after 7S, we've already seen him survive.
5. Frankie. He's a freakin' zombie. Nobody would believe the sacrifice. Plus, there's a possible 8C cameo.
6. Bulleteer. A definite possibility, since it would be fitting that she finally accepts her role as a hero, only to die.
7. Klarion. Another possibility, although as he's a Kirby character (technically) DC might not let him go.

I'd say Alix is the best bet, with Ystin a close second... except for one minor detail.

In the original Nebula Man story, the Soldier to die WASN'T one of the Seven. Hence, my prediction is that they all will survive. The victim?

I, Spyder.

17:57 / 08.03.06

Plus, if 8C takes place after 7S, we've already seen him survive.

I thought 7 Soldiers was considered to be after Infinity Crisis (During 52 and before One Year Later). I may be way off on that so don't quote me and I can't remember where I read it either... so, I'm really no help other than to mention it.

18:43 / 08.03.06

Nup, Grant said at Wondercon/SDCC (?) that he considered it to take place in the week leading up to 8C.

19:04 / 08.03.06

Well, I read it but I apparently did not retain it. Here's the link just in case:

Link

For what it's worth, I like the idea of I, Spyder as the death but I'm leaning more towards Shining Knight for some reason.

Dan Fish - @Fish1k

09:46 / 09.03.06

Possibly unrelated, but I have a thought (yeah, shocking, I know)

I just read JLA:Syndicate Rules I think it was called, the Busiek/Garney arc following up on threads from JLA/Avengers and Earth2.

In it, Metron was playing around with the egg-thing from JLA/A. I just wondered if it could be tied in to Qwewq?

Sorry if this makes no sense, but they're not completely fresh in my mind. I haven't read SS:MM4 yet, but the Metron connection got me thinking.

10:34 / 09.03.06

Probably not, since Qwewq predates JLA/Avengers, and is cubical. Furthermore, Krona is stuck in the egg.

10:41 / 09.03.06

Hurricane Gloria = Castle Revolving, set on HI

11:39 / 09.03.06

Or some sort of a disguise for it. Makes sense to me.

20:11 / 09.03.06

In the original Nebula Man story, the Soldier to die WASN'T one of the Seven. Hence, my prediction is that they all will survive. The victim?
I, Spyder.

The theory I've been harboring is that one of the Seven will die, meaning that that there are now six soldiers and the world is doomed. Then I, Spyder changes sides again, bringing the number back up to Seven.

Of course, this theory is based on a single throw-away line in SS #0, Shadowy Man referring to Spider: "You have at least two sides to you" implying to me that he will be a triple agent: Member of Vigilantes' six soldiers in #0, then agent of the sheda, then last minute Seventh Soldier.

20:42 / 09.03.06

I suppose. Really, the only reason I think it might be him is that he was transformed by the 7UM after he was stung by a Sheeda. They might have set him up as a stalking horse.

01:01 / 11.03.06

Having just noticed that there are versions of the name 'Helligan' in non-7 Soldiers comics, both as people and places, I have to ask... is this something (spelled, however) that I should be getting, and I'm just particularly thick at the moment? Either, something common in regular, walking-about life, or something you see far more of in comics than anywhere else, but crops up all over anyway, like 'Corto Maltese' or 'a body... likes/can/wants'?

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

21:44 / 13.03.06

Where have you been seeing it, Daytripper? No coincidences in my life around the name, maybe it's special to you? I think it's just a ripping good name, and one that suits Sky-High's devil-may-care, big-picture-viewing, all-in-one nature.

That's a fair crop of hyphens.

Helligan is one of those "secret hearts" to the Seven Soldiers books, and is almost an Audrey - she's pure of heart and almost intrinsically thematic as well, escaping the confines of modular storytelling (like Shilo) to see the big picture - she's the one that can piece it together. She unites the Shining Knight with Bulleteer and both of them with Seven Soldiers #0, pulling all the strands together for the the characters as much as for the audience. She is (possibly) the beautiful reflection of Gloriana Tenebrae's destructive qualities, taking all the threads and weaving them together as much as Gloriana takes all the threads and obliterates them. She can see with enough clarity to say that the Sheeda are future folk.

18:36 / 15.03.06

Given the delay to Frankenstein #4, SS#1 has been pushed back to 26/4.

04:17 / 16.03.06

Over the past month, I've noted a Helligan type term in 'Area 53' (the Gorilla series), an old issue of 'Detective Comics' around the time when you had Zatanna hopping from book to book, looking for her dad and such, and an issue of some X-comic around the time of Bastion (I pulled a bunch of random comics involved in that out and read through them at once - only later did my paranoid noting of recurring Helligans crop up). Google throws up lots of 'Lost Garden of Heligan' but I don't make an immediate connection of any sort. Maybe it's just shaping up as my personal twenty-three.

12:51 / 16.03.06

Also, has anyone else noticed all the 'random' numbers in the series? I've been reading through the minis over the past few days, and they're all over the place. I'm at work at the mo, so can't get the specific issue, but there's a big 45 in Mister Miracle #2 (I think) and there's a 23 in Shining Knight #2. They're on building signs and are pretty prominent, so I'm wary of simply discarding them. So we have any numerologists on the board? I'm sure there are more - I'm gonna scour them (with my eyes, not a brush) when I get home.

Another thing that keeps popping up is people (usually kids) wearing superhero symbols. In SK#2 there's seperate Batman and Supes symbols (I'm sure I spotted what looked very much like Clark Kent wearing a supes T-shirt walking past Ystin at the end of #2). In MM#4 the kids are wearing superhero shirts when Shilo is trying to get out of the straight-jacket, and his lil' daughter is wearing a Batman T-shirt when he lifts her up. This happens far too often to be a coincidence - what do we think is happening. One idea I had was that the world/DCU/people the charcters meet are trying to remind the heroes of what they are (which would be why Shilo is surrounded by the images when he's trapped in Omega, and why Ystin sees them when he's being followed by the Mood 7 Mind Destoyer). Has anyone else spotted any more of these?

I'm glad DC has put back SS#1 until after Frankie #4 though, I was dreading having SS#1 in my pile, knowing I shouldn't read it. It would have been too much, I tells you. Who else is starting to wish there was an #2 though? I know I am!

15:00 / 16.03.06

Hmm... superheroic symbols as memetic antibodies to Sheeda infection?

15:33 / 16.03.06

Who else is starting to wish there was an #2 though? I know I am!

Y'know, to be honest, I'm glad there won't be. I'm enjoying 7S a bunch, and a big part of that is the knowledge that it's a self-contained story with a beginning, middle, and end. I like knowing that 7S #1 doesn't have to be plotted in order to leave hooks for #2.

I'll miss the characters, and wouldn't be averse to seeing them continue in other series, even. But the fact that Seven Soldiers ends at #1 is a lot of why I like it so much.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

18:26 / 16.03.06

Agreed- I like my stories to be heading somewhere predefined.

Just bought the first trade, and I have to say, I thoroughly approve of the choice to publish the stories in order. Not being one for following the relevant bits of minutiae from one series to the next over a period of months, reading the first few issues all crushed together and in the right (story) order makes the whole overarching thing a lot less nebulous to me. (Yeah, I know I could have done that with the comics too, but I never got round to it. Here it is all served up on a plate).

19:26 / 16.03.06

In MM#4 the kids are wearing superhero shirts when Shilo is trying to get out of the straight-jacket, and his lil' daughter is wearing a Batman T-shirt when he lifts her up.
I just thought it was how superhero culture was in a world with real superheroes. Like how people walk around wearing different sports stars jerseys on our earth. I thought Morrison payed more attention to that kinda stuff like all the mutant culture stuff in his New X-Men.

19:36 / 16.03.06

Ditto for Denfield.

Sooper'ero culcha.

19:46 / 16.03.06

Yeah, it's quite typical; there's guys in Marvel Boy with Cap and Punisher tees on, f'rexample.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

20:11 / 16.03.06

Also look at the "real superheroes" culture in Bulleteer.

12:03 / 18.03.06

From Wizard World LA:

Shining Knight and the other Seven Soldiers will show up in "Infinite Crisis #7." “Shining Knight kicks the Riddler’s ass pretty bad,” Johns said.

12:41 / 18.03.06

...and Newsarama mentions something called "Freedom Fighters"...

?

17:07 / 18.03.06

Freedom Fighters is a Golden Age superteam composed of Uncle Sam, The Ray, Phantom Lady, Black Condor, and the Human Bomb. Pre-Crisis, they were based in Earth-X (where Germany won WW2) but were re-integrated into the DCU as an adjunct to the JSA.

In 8C #1, they were pretty well decimated, but they are coming back, in a mini spinning out of the "Battle for Bludhaven".

No notable connection to the new Soldiers, AFAIK.

Keith, like a scientist

23:28 / 18.03.06

Shining Knight and the other Seven Soldiers will show up in "Infinite Crisis #7." “Shining Knight kicks the Riddler’s ass pretty bad,” Johns said.

I thought that the official word was that 7S takes place AFTER Infinite Crisis?

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