I'd utterly forgotten about the maps - I'll have to go back and rewatch those episodes.
I had forgotten, too, until someone posted them online somewhere recently. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly where. But, yeah, there are little islands all around the main island on the map.
I thought the same, but Rousseau's camp seems to be within the area in which Cerberus is operational; perhaps it has previously restricted her movements around the island?
Hmm. Possible. I am skeptical of any explanation that involves the monster, since I am increasingly skeptical that it actually kills anyone, but it makes sense as much as anything.
One thing that does bug me about seasons two and three is that it doesn't seem like people are afraid to go out into the jungle anymore. I mean, Hugo walks back from the Pala Ferry almost all the way to the survivor's camp by himself. Hugo. In season one, if anyone other than Locke or Sayid or someone like that went out, even in a group, people acted like what they were doing was tantamount to suicide.
I'd disagree with your conclusion that the crash was intentional, however, as it seems to me to be highly unlikely.
I agree that it strains credulity, but the level of necessary coincidence at this point is even less believable. I think the crash and the island are very clearly a complicated experiment of some kind, culminating a series of other experiments and interventions in the lives of the Losties, and the people arranging the experiment have some ability to see/predict the future, affect probability, or both. There's no other way that any of this makes sense.
Which, of course, leaves it open for the obvious criticism, that it just doesn't make sense, but I think the fact that the characters themselves openly discuss, in universe, the extremely unlikely nature of some of the things that have happened and it seems to be an ongoing narrative concern means that there's something there.
Where has it been revealed that Cindy was involved with Troup?
Apparently, ABC released some fake interviews with Troup to amazon.com, and, as FW said, it's referenced in Bad Twin.
I think Cindy's appearance in the nose before the crash and her appearance in the tail section after it is a mistake by the writers, in the same way that Charlie is also in the nose before the crash but appears in the midsection after it.
You could be right, but even without that, I think the evidence is weighted towards at least some of the flight crew being involved in the crash. Supposedly, we're going to be seeing more of Cindy later this season, so we might get more information then.
Diz - Wouldn't Libby have been at the hospital for the guy who flipped out over the number's station he heard once? Why is it tht Hurley is on yr list of definately important people? Have I forgotten something?
I have a few possible theories regarding Libby, Santa Rosa, the numbers guy (Wikipedia is telling me his name was Leonard), and Hurley. I'm taking it as a given that Santa Rosa is involved with Hanso/DHARMA/the DeGroots/whatever* (I'm just going to say DHARMA for ease of reference).
Hurley may not have been significant to DHARMA before being sent to Santa Rosa, where people are most likely part of observations and experiments conducted by DHARMA. It's possible that Hurley only became significant after he had contact with Leonard, who was being watched by DHARMA for obvious reasons, and after he left and used the numbers to win the lottery, DHARMA made him a high priority candidate for observation as well. It's also possible that Hurley was already being watched by DHARMA for as-yet-unknown reasons prior to having been in Santa Rosa, and that's why they were sent to Santa Rosa as opposed to anywhere else.
But either way, after he left Santa Rosa, if not before, I think it's clear that they were watching him, if only because Libby glommed onto him like white on rice for no apparent reason as soon as she got to his camp, and we know she was working for Them. Since Libby gave Desmond the Elizabeth at least 3-4 years prior to the crash, and we're presuming she was working for DHARMA at the time, and we know Hurley had not yet won the lottery at that point (I think - when was he seen on TV winning the lottery?), that she was definitely feigning insanity to infiltrate and observe the patients. However, I think that whether or not she was originally solely observing Leonard, she was definitely watching Hurley, too, by the time he left, either because of his contact with Leonard, or because he had been being watched prior to his incarceration there.
In any case, I suspect that if DHARMA had not always been watching Hurley for whatever reason, Libby's the one who "flagged" him for DHARMA, and that it's because she picked him out that he was on the plane, and that she was continuing a mission of observing him while she was on the island and probably on the plane, too.
I don't mind the flashbacks, myself. What I mind is when they say the names of books. You know, really say those names.
The "Look! Look! I'm making a literary reference!" stuff? Yeah, that bugs me, too.
Speaking of that, I know that they've said again and again they're not dead and the island is not purgatory, but it really seems like some of their little references point in that direction anyway. An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge is the most glaring one. Apparently the heiroglypics at the end of the countdown at the Swan station are the ones for "Underworld," and just recently we have Locke on a vision quest of sorts, journeying into the underworld (the cave) and battling Death (the bear) to save the soul of his friend (Mr. Eko). All of this seems to be a dry run for rescuing Jack, Sawyer, and Kate from the belly of the Hydra. Underworld journeys and references to same abound.
* I think it's likely that there are multiple factions of Them, competing with each other (for the minds and souls of the Losties?). I think that Penny Widmore and her father are on opposite sides, and Libby and Kelvin Inman were on Mr. Widmore's side, probably along with at least one faction of the post-DHARMA fragmentation. I think the Others are more knowledgeable than the Losties, but are themselves being manipulated by the major factions. |
