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Star Wars - Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith (SPOILERS)

 
  

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Loomis
13:27 / 28.04.05
I wouldn't say Smith is a total apologist. He certainly has plenty of criticisms of Lucas in this interview at Empire Online.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
08:38 / 29.04.05
I just read the comic book adaptation, and it hinted that the Emperor may have been Anakin's father. Palpatine is telling Anakin that his master was so powerful that he could stop death, and even manipulate midichlorians to the point that he could also create life. I think he lied about the death part, but the create life bit might explain Anakin's birth.
 
 
sleazenation
13:10 / 29.04.05
The force is God, and a suspiciously Judeo-Christian God...
 
 
Jack Denfeld
14:25 / 29.04.05
Oh, and Anakin is an evil evil fuck in this. The Force must be really forgiving not to have some sort of Sith Force Hell for people like Anakin.
 
 
MJ-12
15:56 / 29.04.05
this flick is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching "Othello" or "Hamlet"

Ummm, I'm wondering, has Kevin Smith ever seen a production of "Othello" or "Hamlet"?
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
16:06 / 29.04.05
Maybe he means "Othello" or "Hamlet" as directed by George Lucas....
 
 
Jack Denfeld
16:55 / 29.04.05
I saw the set in current times versions.
 
 
penitentvandal
09:16 / 02.05.05
Iago: Othello doesn't trust me! He doesn't think I'm ready! But he's wrong, I know it!

or...

Hamlet: I killed them all. All of them! I slaughtered them like animals! Even Ophelia!
 
 
penitentvandal
09:17 / 02.05.05
Oh, and of course not forgetting -

Othello: Issa Desdemona gonna die?
 
 
penitentvandal
07:36 / 03.05.05
And of course...

Othello: Put out the lightsabre, and then put out the lightsabre...

Okay, I'll stop now.
 
 
DaveBCooper
10:37 / 03.05.05
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I heard a section from Williams’ score for this yesterday – ‘Battle of the Heroes’, I think it was called, and it was the usual Williams class, combining pre-existing ‘character themes’ with incidental surges etc. Might well be the big volcano-brim fight music, methinks.

That aside, George isn’t getting a cinema-ticket’s-worth of money out of me again. Fool me twice, shame on me, and all that.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:50 / 03.05.05
http://entertainment.excite.com/celebgossip/pgsix/id/05_03_2005_1.html

Bai Ling Cut From Episode III

May 3, 2005

Page Six reports that Bai Ling, who was cast as Senator Bama Breemu in 'Revenge of the Sith', has been cut from the film:

BAI Ling was cut out of "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith" after it was announced that she was posing nude in Playboy, the disappointed actress claims.

The sexy Chinese-born Ling, who was supposed to play Senator Bana Breemu in the final installment of the "Star Wars" series, burst into tears at the Tribeca Film Festival premiere of "The Beautiful Country" the other night while she was describing how her scene was snipped:

"I just found out that my part has been completely cut out of the upcoming 'Star Wars' movie. I do not know what happened," Ling said.

LucasFilm spokeswoman Lynn Hale told us that Ling's sole scene was cut more than a year ago. "It was just one scene," she said.

Hit the link above to read the full article.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:30 / 03.05.05
interesting Lucas interview (from WIRED magazine), plus a smaller Q&A piece with Lucas about assorted topics of our times, to be found at aint it cool news over here .
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:03 / 03.05.05
That aside, George isn’t getting a cinema-ticket’s-worth of money out of me again. Fool me twice, shame on me, and all that.

But dude! This is so clearly eight zillion times better than Clones and Menace! Have you seen the footage?!? And the...aw, never mind.

It's such an odd phenomenon though, that this is by and large the popular consensus. Just a general gist of the contents of the film seems to paint a picture that has ZERO room for the kind of limp exposition-filling material from the first two. With like five master class duels, three enormous battle set pieces, and murder murder everywhere, I just don't see where there'll be able to FIT the suckage. With Clones and Menace, it was all up in the air. George was taking his sweet ass time filling in the blanks in the prequel saga, and for good or ill, that has left him very little wiggle room in Episode III. All the introductory exposition in I and teen lovangst in II will be replaced by the soothing dulcet tones of Emperor Palpatine laying the groundwork for Anakin's fall here in Episode III. It's all high drama, perfectly suited for Lucas' Special Needs writing style.

So while I understand most of the planet's trepidation when approaching this film, I just can't see it happening this time around, whereas I definitely knew there was plenty of stumbling room in the first two.

And if there's ever been a film the needs to be watched on a screen several stories tall with speakers that look to beat you up in the parking lot they're so damn fierce and loud, it's this one. For the opening Space Battle alone. A DUDE FLIES OUT OF THE RUBBLE OF SPACESHIP AND LIKE FLOATS IN SPACE.
 
 
DaveBCooper
08:58 / 04.05.05
Ah, Birdie, you’re clearly kinder than I am – you say “George was taking his sweet ass time filling in the blanks in the prequel saga” when I think he was making it up as he goes along. Two films’ worth of seeing someone who doesn’t seem to know where his own story’s going (despite the ending already being set) is enough for my money… though a certain-it’ll-be-good friend has told me that he might pay for me to go, in which case I may have to retract my previous comment.

I partly wonder if a lot of people are unsure about this film because on the basis of his recent work, George seems not to be … er, let’s say ‘able to please the audience’, and the idea that he might not be able to pull off some long-awaited stuff might be like going to see a comedian and see them fluff the punchline. Could be cringe-inducing to behold.
 
 
wicker woman
09:47 / 09.05.05
Just curious: Am I the only one whom General Grievous strikes as Lucas' attempt to make up for fan dissapointment regarding the lack of use of Darth Maul? Grievous=Darth Maul EXTREME!! ("Look at him! He can handle four lightsabers at once! Even with his feet! They'll love it!")

The bonus being that, whatever exposition there is in Episode III, Lucas didn't write it. I'm sure that's already been brought up, I just don't have time to eat through the entire topic right now.

Believe me, Dave, out of all my apologist friends who were making excuses for the first two films, I was the only one consistent about their near-total suckage. But, despite my wariness, I'm still looking forward to III. I have to side with Gene and say that at least most signs point to a decidedly lesser amount of crap in this film.
 
 
Spaniel
11:22 / 09.05.05
Christ, I'm beginning to tire of the film already and I haven't even seen the fucker yet.

Roll on May the 20th so's I can get it out of the way.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:06 / 09.05.05
>> The bonus being that, whatever exposition there is in Episode III, Lucas didn't write it.

Huh? What do you mean?

Time magazine has reviewed Ep.III and says it's the best of the 3 prequels - still some clunky dialogue and bad acting in parts but overall an improvement from I and II.
 
 
haus of fraser
15:45 / 09.05.05
BBC gives a selection of reviews here.

Apart from the Mail they all seem to give it a resonable review- and given the choice i'd rather not agree with the Mail about anything...
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
15:46 / 09.05.05
Check out Bernadelli's on Rotten Tees. It's a great review. The fact that's positive is just icing.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
15:48 / 09.05.05
Birdie,
I think you could have summed up your post with my constant comment to all naysayers at the moment: STAR WARS RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

My ticket is bought already. I can't wait. It's, like, STAR WARS.

Lightsabers! And spaceships! And Stormtroopers! And lightsabers! Oh, and VADER!
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
15:49 / 09.05.05
i mean you're previous post, we must have been posting at the same time.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:14 / 09.05.05
Absolutely, Keith. But really that miasma of self-satisfaction pales in comparison to the overwhelming glee that will be actually sitting down and watching this thing. Repeatedly.

One of the things I love (loved? *sniff*) about the Prequel Trilogy is the detail that Lucas is now able to put into, like, every other shot. As someone who just barely landed into consciousness before ANH came out, I never really shared the religious attatchment people had to the OT. And since I was all of, what, five or six when I saw ESB in the theaters (and fell asleep, mind) it wasn't Han's sophisticated wit that got me, it was the asteroids and ice planets and the At-Ats. (And also, Yoda, of course.) THAT's what I wanted to see more of. I was never as enchanted with ROTJ for that reason, although Jabba was loads of fun, the only thing rife with delicious detail was the space battle at the end. Any wonder why Lando's co-pilot in the Falcon was and always will be my favorite character in the film.

And so when the re-releases came out, I was so feeling it. I loved all the expanded Mos Eisley stuff but what I loved most was the new ending to ROTJ. Sure, I loved Yub Nub as much as anyone else, but when I saw that new ending, I knew that there was a six volume story being told and I wouldn't really appreciate the last one until they were all finished. Also, it was our first glimpse at Coruscant. And that was like someone had just popped open my brain and said, "Oh, I've found EXACTLY what he wants. A planet made up completely of Wipeout tracks." So, you know. That's the kind of Star Wars fan I am.

When TPM came out, I didn't give a shit about the stilted dialogue ("Master Qui Gon, I heard Yoda mention Midichlorians. I have a question. What are Midichlorians?" How is it that you couldn't just fucking say "What are the Midichlorians Yoda spoke of"?!? THREE?? FUCKING??? SENTENCES???), I got to see Coruscant and Podracing and the most kick ass Lightsaber Battle ever. Hell, I was even blown away by Jar Jar, from a technical standpoint. I remember my friend and I looking at each other during that one shot when Boss Nass is promoting Jar Jar to General and they're like walking off and Boss Nass puts his arm around him and we're like "How. The fuck. Are they doing that." Awesome shit.

And then in Attack Of The Clones, we get more Coruscant, more blue tinting, and Yoda kicking the shit out of everything. Thank you. I'll be honest and say I didn't really appreciate AOTC until I watched it on DVD on an HDWSTV and saw that it was flat out the most gorgeous thing ever pressed to DVD.

And now I just saw this TV spot for Sith with a shot of a Clone Trooper Transport flying through Coruscant, which is basically the equivalent of a tank rolling through Times Square. Combine that with the reaction the film is getting, and the incredible soundtrack (Williams' best of the PT, IMHO), oh and that frickin' shot of Obi Wan leaping out of his starfighter, oh and also that shot of Darth Sidious dissolving the Republic Senate IN YODA'S FACE, well...I just cannot fucking wait.

The fact that there might be a handful of people eating crow? Sorry, I can't really hear it over the lightsaber duel.
 
 
Spaniel
17:09 / 09.05.05
*Passes Birdie a tissue*

Now clean yourself up.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:01 / 09.05.05
YUB YUB!! Wookies galore in Ep. III! Get ready to rrrrrrumbbleee!!

I just felt like saying "Yub Yub," really.

But I am guardedly ready to believe that III will at least be better than I and II. Although I don't expect a brilliant film, far from it (noting Time magazine's "there are still clunky moments and bits of bad acting).
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
20:35 / 09.05.05
that new ROTS spot is quite killer, I agree. I gotta say I'm looking forward more to the Sidious fights than the lava one...I mean, yeah, the lava one is the big one we all need to see. but seeing two fully experienced masters going at it in a huge crazy arena? that's gonna rule. (yes, i use the word "rule" a lot when talking about my anticipation of this movie)
 
 
Triplets
13:22 / 10.05.05
I think he lied about the death part, but

Until you consider Vader is pretty much a walking bondage cadaver.
 
 
diz
14:39 / 10.05.05
if i ever have a black metal band, i'm naming it Walking Bondage Cadaver. thank you, triplets.
 
 
grant
16:01 / 12.05.05
I just don't see where there'll be able to FIT the suckage.

By removing any last vestiges of plot?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:09 / 12.05.05
Regardless of the quality of the film... Benjamin, have you considered watching all the demos for high-end graphics cards back-to-back? It may be the most satisfying narrative experience of your young life.
 
 
haus of fraser
18:22 / 12.05.05
... and the haus once again makes the barbequotes for making me choke from laughter while drinking my tea
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:20 / 12.05.05
Regardless of the quality of the film... Benjamin, have you considered watching all the demos for high-end graphics cards back-to-back? It may be the most satisfying narrative experience of your young life.

Nice.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
20:33 / 12.05.05
And that was all I was going to say about it, until I found myself being described over at Barbequotes as yanked from the brink of orgasm by Haus' deft "Bucket Of Cold Water", a.k.a. the above quoted bon mot.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Praising the things I like about a movie have reduced me, in your minds, to some overweight fifteen year old with his pants around his ankles?

I was going to ignore the fact that what Haus said completely overrides any possibility that I might be able to appreciate the myriad complex narratives that I have no problem appreciating, appreciating a whole lot more than Star Wars, by the way. (After all, I've yanked my screen name from Deadwood, not A New Hope.) That I'd rather be watching shaded rectangles floating across the screen than, well, any reference to the things I do like at this point would just make me sound like I'm puffing myself up.

But, you know, it's quite possible to enjoy Star Wars for what it is and also have a brain capable of seeing the value of more complex narratives than a Raedon Screen Saver.

And it's also possible to use expletives and capital letters in praising something without having to stroke your cock while your doing it. In fact, I might be alone in this, but I find that I'm never further from orgasm than when I'm typing a response on a message board.

Just a heads up, for when you feel like trying to take me down a few pegs the next time I quite like something.
 
 
■
21:37 / 12.05.05
[off-topic]
I find that I'm never further from orgasm than when I'm typing a response on a message board.

You're clearly not a member of SuicideGirls.
[/sorry for the interruptus]
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:50 / 12.05.05
Someone is about to try to persuade Mark Kermode of this film's goodness on BBC2. Should be interesting.
 
  

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