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12:08 / 03.03.02

Originally posted by Sax:

Cliff: Got to be the Bjorkster

Well she did already write a song about throwing herself of a cliff (well, mountain, but y'know..)

I now return you to your game...

14:14 / 03.03.02

I'm Alan's secret evil twin sister, Alanis, and I will answer these for him.

Crag- Mary Shelley. Thanks so very fucking much for The Modern Prometheus. Whumpf.

Bag- Mary Kelly. Any extra source of income at the moment would be fantastic.

Shag- A SKELETON HORSE! Bestiality and Necrophilia... together at last.

I nominate Kali and:
Russell Crowe
Sheryl Crow
Cameron Crowe.

autopilot disengaged

15:26 / 03.03.02

quoteriginally posted by suds:

for autopilot disengaged:
brian warner a-k-a marilyn manson
brian molko
bryan adams

ok, well i think - FUCK! - i threw adams off the cliff without even thinking. gah. it just HAPPENED.

oh well.

now... what to do with the lord of darkness and the pimp of dimness...

ok: i'm forced to *make love* to the molkoid 'cause at least that way i don't have to marry him. and i can - forget - this - ever - happened. unless the bastard writes an entire album worth of bad 'confessional' poetry about the experience and how i dumped him for...

...a satanic marriage to marilyn... i figure it'll be interesting at the very least, yeah?

if anyone needs me i'll be in the boudoir trussed up, branded with pentagrams and undergoing a 4hour piss enema.

and for a little payback:

for sweet jane:
iggy pop
ziggy stardust
zippy

16:21 / 03.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Ganesh v4.2:

Anyway... Expressionless!

Grant Morrison
Jim Morrison
Van Morrison

Oooh.

I’d have to shag Jim Morrison. He’s fit, dead (so he wouldn’t hang around wanting any more expressionless action: dick 'em and dump 'em is my motto when it comes to rampant egotistic pop stars). Plus this is the funniest thing EVER.

Van Morrison I’ll marry. Songwriter, Celt, Christian, Mystic. We have a lot in common.

I’m afraid it’s the cliff for Grant. I mean, talk about a one trick pony - practically everything he writes these days uses exactly the same ideas. He seems to have swallowed an unhealthy dose of his own mythology (also true of Jim, but he’s fit and the baldy ain’t), which is a definite turn off. Fuck off further up your own ass so we don’t have to bear witness to your dullard ramblings, Mr Concept Career.

I nominate - Jack the Bodiless (because he’s prolly the only person here who’ll know all three on this list):

John Wayne
Bruce Wayne
Adam Wayne

(Regardless of John’s dodgy IRL politics, I still couldn’t chuck any of ‘em off a cliff)

17:14 / 03.03.02

quote:This one's for... Traz or Tempus, whoever answers first:

Elvis Costello
Elvis Presley
Lisa Marie Presley

Shoulda added Robert Crais's wisecracking detective Elvis Cole to the mix, Persephone. Ah, well...

Shag: Elvis Costello. Because if I married him, I'd have to put up with him singing "Veronica" in his sleep, off tune. And did you see the video? The stupid bastard can't even lip-sync. At least this way, I'll be spared decades of sleepless nights.

Marry: Lisa Marie Presley. 'Cause she deserves more than a man who's been handed a lifetime achievement award by Effeminate Loonball Batshit Albino Pederast Magazine.

Push off a cliff: Elvis Presley. I know Christian Slater would disagree with this choice ("I ain't gay or nothing, but if I absolutely had to fuck a guy, I'd fuck Elvis"), but I'd stuff my new father-in-law's mouth full of garlic and fried banana sandwiches, hammer a stake through his hunka hunka burning love, and then bury the King's body beneath a crossroads halfway between Memphis and Nashville. Let the tabloids write about Princess Di's undead adventures for a change.

Now, for Trijhaos, count adam or anyone else who lurks in the Comics Forum: Jakita Wagner in a bad mood, Elijah Snow in a worse mood and The Drummer in any mood at all.

[ 03-03-2002: Message edited by: Traz ]

Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!

09:41 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by autopilot disengaged:

for sweet jane:
iggy pop
ziggy stardust
zippy

Hmmm. It's difficult. Do I marry Iggy and revel in rock and roll madness? Or Ziggy and ride around in a groovy spaceship?

Well, on the grounds of never ever wanting to go near Iggy's cock, he's going off the cliff. But I'm sure he'll survive, I mean, he's still somehow alive now...

And then I marry Ziggy and I get to see the universe, and also sing merry tunes for a good long while.

Looks like I'm shagging Zippy then. I've had worse, and at least I can opt to shut the bastard up if I feel like it.

And now for Nick:

Douglas Adams
Ford Prefect
Bilbo Baggins

Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!

09:41 / 04.03.02

oh, and for Ierne or Flyboy:

Keith Moon
Keith Orville
Keith Chegwin

Regrettable Juvenilia

13:16 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Flux = Expert Textpert:
for Flyboy:

Jay-Z
Method Man
DMX

I'll never forgive you for not offering me the hungover Sevigny / sadistic Bjork combination, you know. Anyway, onwards, onwards...

Shag: Method Man. A fantastically handsome man with godlike charisma.

Marry: Jay-Z - to keep me in diamonds. I'd have to make sure we sign some kind of pre-nup that makes it clear I get all his lovely, lovely money in case anything unfortunate should happen to him (like if he should accidentally walk into a room filled with heavily-armed Nas fans - oops).

Crag: DMX. Sorry, Crunchy and other fans, but I still don't rate DMX as a rapper. And he's a bit mingin'.

quote:Originally posted by Ganesh v4.2:

Here's your delectable trio, Flyboy:

Pat(rick) Califia
Pat Butcher
Postman Pat and his black & white cat

You sick, sick man. Hmmm.

Shag: Pat Califia. The theory bitch credibility this would afford me would make it all worthwhile.

Marry: Postman Pat and Jess. Pat would provide a cosy and domestic homelife. The black and white cat would provide the sex. Miaow.

Crag: Pat Butcher. Tempting as domestic bliss in Albert Square might be, I just can't get past those earrings.

quote:Originally posted by suds:
for flyboy:
superman
wonderwoman
spiderman

You'd be better off asking a comics geek, you know. Oh. Go on then...

Shag: Wonder Woman. An Amazon. With a lasso. This is something of a no-brainer.

Marry: Spiderman - Peter Parker always seemed like a fun guy before the writers of the comic made the fatal error of trying to be Edgy and Dark. He's a journalist, he can't be that bad to live with (ahem) - and he's based in New York, somewhere I'd quite like to live. Plus, as with Postman Pat, he has a black and white feline friend I'm fond of...

Crag: Superman - the dullest of all men in tights. Not that it would do much good throwing this flying, nigh-indestructible chump off a cliff, but worth a try.

So I ought to offer three sets now, right? I'll do better than that...

For Rosa:

JT LeRoy
Shannen Doherty
that girl out of 'Dark Angel', whatever her name is

For Haus:

Rupert Giles
Ace (the Doctor's sidekick)
Pa and Ma Kent

For Nick:

Lady Victoria Hervey
Nigel Havers
Simon LeBon

For Flux:

Clea Duvall
Robert Duvall
Robert Downey Jnr

13:33 / 04.03.02

Do I get to play too?

Matthew Fluxington

13:35 / 04.03.02

I'll shag Robert Downey Jr... handsome man, very charismatic. Not a good choice for commitment, though.

I didn't know who Clea Duvall was, but I checked up, and it turns out she's pretty foxy. I'll marry her, see how it goes.

I'm hurling Robert Duvall over the cliff --- too old for me, I'd think. Talented guy, though. Shame to see him go.

For Flyboy:

a severely schizophrenic Mia Clarke
a quasi-catatonic Chloe Sevigny
a sexually frigid Eliza Dushku

For Ganesh:

(all ER-edition)
Anthony Edwards
Eriq LaSalle
Noah Wyle

for Mr. Todd:

(all SNL edition)
Tina Fey
Maya Rudolph
Amy Poehler

for Ierne:

Sean Connery
Stevie Nicks
George Carlin

13:35 / 04.03.02

Scrub them Angel they were shit. You have:

Billy Graham
Desmond Tutu
and
Ayatolla Khomeini

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Sauron ]

13:40 / 04.03.02

quote:for bear

Emma Peel
Tara King
Purdey

The Avengers are a bit before my time I'm afraid so I don't know much about any of these ladies...

so um Shag - Purdey because I saw a little picture of her and she was kinda cute.

Marry - Tara King because on searching for Tara King I foudn out there's a model by the same name and my mum would be very proud...

Cliff - Emma Peel worse name of the punch and she was played by Lumley right?

Ok who hasn't been done yet??

13:41 / 04.03.02

clea duvall is the don! not only was she in 'but i'm a cheerleader!' as well as in 'the faculty' with josh harnett, she is also going out with one of the ladies in the haggard. wooo!

Jack The Bodiless

13:49 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by expressionless:
I nominate - Jack the Bodiless (because he’s prolly the only person here who’ll know all three on this list):

John Wayne
Bruce Wayne
Adam Wayne

Ah. Finally.

Shag - Adam Wayne. Tall, fiery (Celtic, you know), fiercely romantic, with a really big sword... what's not to love? Apart from the fact that he has no sense of humour, I'd marry him...

Bag - Bruce Wayne... Billionaire, big house in the suburbs, hardly spends any time at home, like dressing up in rubber... another no-brainer, right, Fly?

Crag - The Duke. The Searchers and the last lines of [i]Hondo[i] aside, the man's iconic, but reprehensible. I kill him deadly.

On a theme: ephemerat -

GULLY FOYLE
LEMUEL GULLIVER
NOEL GALLAGHER

And for Deva -

ROJ BLAKE
WILLIAM BLAKE
BLAKE EDWARDS

Finally, for Haus -

Jocasta Newington
Thom Golenz
Caiaphas Slacks

13:52 / 04.03.02

Hum.

Shag: Tolkien, cause he wouldn't mind my furry feet and sticky-out ears

Marry: JR Hartley cause he's so cuddlesome and cardiganned, and would no doubt make good cups of tea

Cliff: JR Ewing, cause he's too chunky to shag, and I can't marry him because I don't suit shoulderpads

Oh, and I nominate Meme Buggerer with:

Muriel Gray
Alasdair Gray
Fran Healy

Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?

13:57 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Flyboy:

For Haus:

Rupert Giles
Ace (the Doctor's sidekick)
Pa and Ma Kent

Shag - Ace. Well, come on. She's Ace for God's sake. Plus, likes to blow things up.

Bag - Rupert Giles - well...he's funny, very well-preserved, extremely cool and we could spend long winter nights fencing, discussing dead languages and swapping university tales. Actually, that sounds liek a living Hell, but I bet the sex would be good.

Crag - Ma and Pa Kent. Because if CK was Superman, he coudl save them anyway, and if he wasn't then it might get him to get a reality check and start listening to that nice young Mr. Luthor.

Matthew Fluxington

14:06 / 04.03.02

for Suds:

Spiral Stairs
Westy
Bob Nastanovich

for Cherry:

Wayne from Wayne's World
Garth from Wayne's World
Tim Meadows as the Ladies' Man

for Autopilot:

Tristan Taormino, the "anal advisor"
David Holmes
Halle Barry

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Flux = Expert Textpert ]

autopilot disengaged

14:19 / 04.03.02

for lolita nation:

david hasselhoff
stephen seagal
cartman

"BEEEEFCAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!"

for nikon driver:

andy warhol
louise bourgeois
marcel duchamp

"hmm...."

for lyra lovelaces:
rich cronin, from the lyte funky ones
brad fischetti, from the lyte funky ones
devin lima, from the lyte funky ones

"4 REAL."

Goodness Gracious Meme

14:23 / 04.03.02

Jarvis Cocker
Joe Cocker
A Cocker Spaniel

Jesus, love, what you trying to do to me, huh?

Bag- well that's easy. Jarv, jarv. And none of that 'sexless marriage' malarky for me, thank you very much. And if in fact he's not as lovely as he seems but in fact a moody, irritating and smelly little man (entirely possible) then he should at least be able to keep me in plums for a while. Although it'd mean living in Hoxton. Hmph.

Crag-Joe Cocker. Have a deep and irrational hatred for him. He's gone. Toast.

Which leaves me to shag the Cocker spaniel...

Okay, one for Angel:

Angel (buffy)
The Angel of the North
Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa's top scorer)

14:51 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Flux = Expert Textpert:
for Suds:

Spiral Stairs
Westy
Bob Nastanovich

hooray for flux!
i'd have to push westy off a cliff. i know that's mean, but i'm not really into the whole ginga beard thing. and, hey, he can't drum.
i would have sex with spiral because he seems intense and mean.
but i would marry bobby n because he is handsome, friendly, chums with mark ibold (heh heh heh) as well as once being a silver jew and generally just being a keeper, all in all.

oh, what fun it is to imagine life with the boys of pavementos!

flux! how about you???

mark ibold.
spiral stairs.
stephen malkmus.

Matthew Fluxington

14:59 / 04.03.02

rough one, Suds.

See, Spiral seems like a better commitment person, but for reasons that are a bit dubious. and Malkmus is horrible commitment material.

I'll shag SM, keep Mark, and Spiral goes over the cliff.

Regrettable Juvenilia

15:02 / 04.03.02

Clea Duvall has my heart in a small glass jar, in a locked safe, in a basement in Los Angeles. It's most inconveniant.

quote:Originally posted by Flux = Expert Textpert:
For Flyboy:

a severely schizophrenic Mia Clarke
a quasi-catatonic Chloe Sevigny
a sexually frigid Eliza Dushku

On one level I think I asked for this, on another level you're starting to disturb me greatly.

Shag: Mia - on account of her writings in Careless Talk and on Drowned In Sound, she's in danger of becoming my new favourite member of Electrelane. And the schizophrenia thing isn't too relevant for a one night stand (worst case scenario: she starts stalking me, which would be an interesting role reversal) - hey, could even be seen as a bonus...

Marry: Chloe. I don't think I could actually have a successful marriage with someone who didn't slip into a coma every now and again.

Crag: the obvious fake Eliza clone.

15:34 / 04.03.02

quote:
for Mr. Todd:
(all SNL edition)
Tina Fey
Maya Rudolph
Amy Poehler

This one is tough--

shag - Amy Poehler, since she used to be in the Upright Citizens BRigade, which were pretty ace, and, most importantly, back in the day, played Andy Richter's obsessed-with-Conan little sister on Conan's show.

bag- Tina Fey - I always make passes at girls in glasses.

crag - May Rudolph - she's friends with Gwyneth Paltrow, who is one of the most annoying celebs on earth.

For, whoever choses , The all world leader addition-

Hamid Karzai

Junichiro Koizumi

Vincente Fox

16:01 / 04.03.02

Flux:
Michael Stipe
Christina Aguilera
Sean Connery

Crag: Michael Stipe - Yesss! Picture me running towards the edge, holding him above my head, tears of joy in my eyes. I'd pay the local air-sea rescue crew to retrieve the body so I could do it again. In fact, I'd equip myself with a parachute and throw him off the sheer face of a mountain, so that I could freefall with him most of the way and thus make the most of his terror, and poke him in the face and stuff as we went down. I'd scream at him: "This is for a whole week of sleepless nights; a whole week of that self-pitying toe-rag upstairs playing - and singing along to, mark you - 'Everybody Hurts' at top volume, on repeat, from 12 to 2 am! Bastard!" *poke*

Shag: Christina Aguilera - I don't really know enough about her to know whether she's marriage material, but I suspect she's not the sort to be happy working an alottment or admiring corrugated iron roofs on sheds.

Bag: Sean Connery - he must be mostly cyborg now, with loads of amazing gadgets in his arms and legs: hedge trimmers, orbital sanders and so on, at the tweek of a nipple. Very handy about the house.

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Saveloy ]

17:38 / 04.03.02

Shag - Vincente Fox - Hot Dang Vinny!

Marry- Hamid Karzai- How good would he look on your arm? Tom Ford'd be round for lunch like every single day.

Crag- Junichiro Koizumi - Looks like youre going the same way as the economy baby ...

18:54 / 04.03.02

Hey, I've been really busy recently (2 jobs! 2!!!), sorry for not joining in the fun sooner.

Dear Boy: I had to do some Googling in order to find some info on the other two Keiths:
Keith Chegwin – Hyperactive television presenter, whose finest moment was undoubtedly "Cheggers Plays Pop", the seminal 1980s quiz show aimed at children. Cheggers would question several obnoxious kids, who were split into teams - a typical question would be "Which member of Spandau Ballet hibernates during the winter?" to which the correct answer is, of course, vocalist Tony Handley. Cheggers controversially married fellow kids TV star Maggie Philbin, although she dumped him after he developed a fondness for Mr Jack Daniels. In recent years, Cheggers has appeared as host of "The Big Breakfast" and can often be seen on Channel 5 shows, the only viewers of which are myself and a small dog who lives in Cheltenham.
He gets the shag because even though I've no idea who he is, I share his love for Jack Daniels.

The next Keith was a Keith and Orville – are these the ones you meant?
Keith & Orville –TOOTHY BALDING-PERMED ventriloquist invented to make BOB CAROLGEES look like a genius. Orville was a pathologically feeble green duck in a nappy with unmentionable hit single. Cuddles was nasally-blocked orange "cheeky" monkey, and no better. Apparently there was also a "punk skunk", but enough. The usual songs and sketch format, with musical guests invariably including Matt Bianco and Red Box.
Over the cliff with the puppets in nappies...

So I'd marry Moon the Loon – since he's dead, that would leave me a very merry widow indeed.

For You, Dear Boy:
Bryan Ferry
Brian May
Brian Wilson

Flux's was a bit easier:

Even though I enjoy those early Bond Flicks, and he's a Scot, Connery goes over the edge. He don't treat women right, yo.

I'll shag George Carlin, because humor is a brilliant aphrodisiac.

And I'll marry Stevie Nicks so I can ghostwrite her autobiography, wear her diva-freaky clothes, and hike Camelback Mountain with her, because she knows all the secret paths...

Alright, Art Skool Grad:

Berenice Abbott
Hannah Hoch
Lisa Yuskavage

Hope I'm playing the game right...

Matthew Fluxington

19:07 / 04.03.02

Berenice Abbott - crag. Her work is a bit too dull, just straight photo. I'd prefer someone with a little more 'vision'.

Lisa Yuskavage - talented, kinda sexy. Shag.

Hannah Hoch - oh my, one of my favorites! I'll marry her. She's brilliant! How could I say no?

19:19 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by autopilot disengaged:
for lolita nation:

david hasselhoff
stephen seagal
cartman

"BEEEEFCAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!"

christ on a jet-ski, auto.

well, it's off the cliff and quick for steven seagal. christ, how good that would be. i can just see it now: i grab him by his ponytail and whoosh... "hard to kill my ass, ugly son of a bitch!"

then i guess i shag cartman, because hopefully i could get it over with before his voice got overpoweringly annoying..

which leaves me to marry david hasslehoff, and live only in the hope of a quick divorce and a fat settlement.

for you, autopilot:

Molly Ringwald
Molly Bloom
Molly Hatchet

The Natural Way

21:50 / 04.03.02

Barry White, Lenny Beige, Joe Black

Urgh.

I don't think so.

God....do I have to?

- Right, it's off the bloody cliff w/ Brad Pitt. He looks like a cat (if he was female he'd have exactly the sort of nose I hate), and there's something sort of....*whiffy* about him. Blonde and whiffy - the kid who had warts at school. And Joe Black was shit. And the actress who plays his girlfriend always looks as though she's about to burst into tears. And I hear he has halitosis. Really.

- Marriage? Well, as you know, I'm 100% all for that. It's got to be Barry because he's like a big, hairy sexmummy. He would sing to me and I would call him Papa.

- Lenny Beige? I 've just Google-searched him. He'll do. Get it out, Beige.

Oh and here's a few more.

Fly:

A Massive Beard
Massive Attack
The Aphex Twin

Sauron:

Twart
A *Bouffed* Poodle
Your Mother

Lyra:

Lenny Dee
DJ's Sy & Dougle
MC Magicka (or however you spell it)

[ 05-03-2002: Message edited by: You and Runce ]

10:11 / 05.03.02

Forgot to add my own.

Jack the Bodiless gets:
- A puff of smoke
- A flash of lightning
- The empty vastness of space

Moominstoat:
- Little My
- The Hemulen
- The Hattifatteners

Kit-Cat Club:
- Martin Amis
- Ian McEwan
- Will Self

Mordant Carnival:
- Victoria Beckham
- Queen Victoria
- HMS Victory

Tannhauser
- A Sopwith Camel
- A Sherman tank
- A fencing foil

Flux
- Bread
- Cheese
- MILK

Regrettable Juvenilia

10:33 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by You and Runce:
Fly:

A Massive Beard
Massive Attack
The Aphex Twin

Shag: Massive Attack, and every guest vocalist who's ever worked with them, in one big smoked-out, laughably laid-back and yet faintly sinister orgy, in a big house in Bristol. Highlights will include doing Neneh Cherry on the designer coffee table, and making Tricky wear a wedding dress again...

Marry: a massive beard. Perhaps I could marry one of Tom Cruise's former massive beards. And i'm not talking about the one he had in Born On The Fourth Of July.

Crag: Aphex Twin. It would make me heart soar with the purest joy to watch him fall. Wheeeee...

Okay, I should offer a couple more:

for Crunchy -

Janis Joplin
Jimi Hendrix
Tupac Shakur

for Runce -

Scott Summers
Dawn Summers
Donna Summer

Less searchable M0rd4nt

10:38 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Saveloy:
Forgot to add my own.

Mordant Carnival:
- Victoria Beckham
- Queen Victoria
- HMS Victory

Shag: HMS Victory. Just to say I'd done it, y'know?

Marry: Posh Spice. Then I would be all stern and lock her in her bedroom until she'd read one fucking book.

Which leaves Queen Vic to get pushed off the cliff. Cruel, but an amusing image.

Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?

10:51 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Saveloy:
Tannhauser
- A Sopwith Camel
- A Sherman tank
- A fencing foil

Crag: The Sherman tank, of course. Partly because the Sherman, although useful, was essentially cheap, mass-produced Amerikaner wank.

Besides, after a hard day's work these days a rarely have the energy for a Sherman before bed...

Shag: Fencing foil - on the grounds that, for a one-night stand, it's the item that I know best how to handle.

Bag: The Sopwith Camel. Well, wouldn't you? An absolute triumph of prop-fighter mechanics, and the instigator of more successful engagements than any other allied plane. And, best of all, it tended to flip itself over when taking off and landing. Sounds like my kind of partner. Camels rock. Although I doubt a nippy thing like that would want to be tied down in a marriage...

Jack The Bodiless

10:52 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Saveloy:
Jack the Bodiless gets:
- A puff of smoke
- A flash of lightning
- The empty vastness of space

Ah. So that's the way it is.

SHAG: the flash of lightning. While singing Spiritualized's 'Electricity'. In a copper bathtub. On top of a mountain. I am Jack's fried brainstem. What a way to go...

BAG: the puff of smoke. An absentee wife would give me more time to pursue random manifestations of raw electricity. We've all been there, right lads?

CRAG: the empty vastness of space. Infinite, my ethereal ass... c'mere, voidboy...

Mr. insensitive - for you...

Norman Osborn
Harry Osborn
Ned Leeds

The Natural Way

10:53 / 05.03.02

I knew you'd go with the beard!

- Apart from 'I Feel Love', I have little to no interest in Donna Summers - so it's off the cliff w/ her. I fancy her frail, wispy, 70's discobody may simply float off w/ the breeze.....

- Shagging? Now it's getting hard... I don't want to have sex w/ Scott (inspite of what I hear about his firm yet supple...*tight embrace*) and I'm not sure I want to get into it w/ a 15 year old.... I guess Scott's got to take it, then... In an apron. Doing the hoovering. And sobbing terribly.

- Dawn it is. I quite fancy marrying into the Summers family. Maybe I'll quickly acquire super powers, too.... Or do you think I'd be introduced only to be killed off? Another one of Dawns *mistakes*, serving only to illustrate her immaturity? Another dangerunce older man?

[ 05-03-2002: Message edited by: You and Runce ]

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