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Marvel Mythology Surgery

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Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

15:22 / 11.02.06

Oh, thanks. I found a bit about the real band on google, and wasn't sure if they were the same, thanks.

Phex: Dorset Doom

18:33 / 21.02.06

So, I just bought the first of the 'Planet Hulk' books, having been suckered in by all the 'it will change the Marvel universe 4evah!!11!2!3' stuff. I've not read any Hulk stuff since forever, though I'm pretty au-fait with the character and concepts, but I was just wondering why exactly 'The Illuminati' wanted to fire poor Bruce into space. Was it something he did recently or is it just recognition that he could swing the whole Civil War one way or the other if he chooses a side?

FinderWolf

19:45 / 21.02.06

I think it's just cause they know he's a ticking time bomb, innocents are hurt whenever he rampages, he's uncontrollable, he could cause mass damage and be a SuperBeing of Mass Destruction, when he's the Hulk he doesn't seem to have much morals or awareness of the destruction he causes (except for his smarter versions, which cycle in and out through the years), etc. etc. They even say as much in that first issue of Planet Hulk. (Reed Richards: "You always say you just wanted to be left alone, you're a danger to the human race, so here ya go - we're sending you away where you can be alone like you always wanted.")

ThePirateKing

10:48 / 27.02.06

My question is about Thor and the Avengers.

I read the whole Avengers Disassembled storyline (for my sins). I know that Marvel ended Thor's own book (and skim read that) but do Iron Man & Captain Ameica know what happened to Thor? Do they think he's missing? (He's never mentioned in the new Avengers) or do they know he's dead? And if so was there ever a scene in which Cap & Tony said "Fuck me! We've known him for years and he was our pal and now he's dead. Fuck."

Many thanks.

Mario

10:52 / 27.02.06

The Avengers were alerted to the fall of Asgard by a somewhat pissed (in both senses of the word) Hercules in a recent mini, so they probably believe Thor to be dead.

(His book was a little unclear on the point)

ONLY NICE THINGS

11:00 / 27.02.06

re: Planet Hulk. Does anyone know why they haven't adopted the same principle with people who are actually evil, and who kill indiscriminately?

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:54 / 27.02.06

(He's never mentioned in the new Avengers) or do they know he's dead? And if so was there ever a scene in which Cap & Tony said "Fuck me! We've known him for years and he was our pal and now he's dead. Fuck."

There's a scene in the first New Avengers storyline in which Tony Stark is talking about some of the mistakes he thinks the Avengers made, and he says that maybe if they'd done things differently, among other things "We'd know where Thor is..." or possibly "We'd know what happened to Thor..."

Haus - pick one from:

a) This will all be explained in the Illuminati one-shot, which serves as a prelude to CIVIL WAHH! as well.

b) I wish Marvel was as EDGY and LIKE THE REAL WORLD as DC! Maybe there could be some non-consensual mind-wiping fun and maybe everybody could learn to hate each other!

Mario

13:55 / 27.02.06

Haus: because then you couldn't do umpteen Green Goblin/Red Skull stories.

FinderWolf

14:45 / 27.02.06

>> and maybe everybody could learn to hate each other!

Oh, don't worry, they'll hate each other real good soon in Marvel's Civil War crossover.

ONLY NICE THINGS

14:59 / 27.02.06

Yes. And it will change the world of the Marvel Superheroes 4 EVAH!!!!

John Octave

15:14 / 27.02.06

Well it's about time. As a misunderstood social outcast myself (I am, after all, a comic book reader), I fear and despise camaraderie and friendly interaction with one's peers, so I'm glad that Marvel and DC have finally wisened up to the fact that where the hero walks, he walks...ALONE!!

Jack Denfeld

15:52 / 27.02.06

I think it's because Hulk is their friend. They tried to send him to a nice planet where he'd finally be left alone. (while Reed looks for a cure, right after he stops procrastinating on Ben's)

This Sunday

18:18 / 27.02.06

Re: Hulk, you'd think after that Crossroads/Jar-head-ella business, nobody'd try an extra-earthly exile again. Somebody's going to end up in metal bikini, there'll be swords all 'round, and it'll just go to pot from there. Had this been the end of Bruce Jones' run, however, I'd be dancing in the streets.

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

18:32 / 27.02.06

OK, I admit I didn't keep up with everything in the 90's, but in the aborted Silver Surfer mini-series that came AFTER his on-going series, there was a plotline that either Galactus was dead or dying. I also know that they only published the first six issues of the mini-, were going to get around to it later, but Louise Simonson fell out of favor with Marvel and John Buscema moved on to other projects.

My question is: Did they ever resolve that? And if not, did Galactus just sort of show up with no explanation, or has he not been sighted since?

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

18:37 / 27.02.06

(He's never mentioned in the new Avengers) or do they know he's dead? And if so was there ever a scene in which Cap & Tony said "Fuck me! We've known him for years and he was our pal and now he's dead. Fuck."

I took it to mean that Thor has come and gone a LOT in the Marvel Universe (Kirby and Lee would have him in Asgard for ages without having him go to Earth, and it wasn't mentioned anywhere else), and with him being a God, his sense of time is much different than theirs. Having been around for over a thousand years, being gone for a few months probably isn't all that big a deal.

Of course, they also had Asgard floating over New York for a while, and no one outside of Thor's book mentioned that.

Mario

20:19 / 27.02.06

My question is: Did they ever resolve that? And if not, did Galactus just sort of show up with no explanation, or has he not been sighted since?

Yeah, he came back in the Abraxas arc, in FF. Basically, he got better.

Oh, and I think the Asgard thing was Big Reset Buttoned, shortly before the Oeming run.

Spyder Todd 2008

20:41 / 27.02.06

Of course, they also had Asgard floating over New York for a while, and no one outside of Thor's book mentioned that

So not true! There was this whole two issue story arc over in Captain Marvel, where Genis decided that he was a god too, so he should be in asgard and-
...
oh wait. I remember now. I was the only person on the planet that read David's run on Captain Marvel...

Jack Denfeld

20:53 / 27.02.06

Naw Spyder, I think I remember part 1 of that. How'd it end? The 2 parter and the series.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

06:00 / 28.02.06

Hey, I've got the trade for that story arc where Genis goes bat-shit crazy and becomes Punisher's sidekick. That bit reminded me of all those times the Punisher teamed up with Power Pack. Y'know, in Strange Tales, to try and take out Cloak & Dagger and such.

(Yeah, I have a secret C&D fetish).

Mind you, I didn't understand 1/3 of what was going on, like the bit about being onboard the Kree ship again and such, but there you go. Someone else who read it.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

14:00 / 28.02.06

I just finished reading the first run of Excalibur, which ended with Brian and Meggan getting married.

While I think a lot of good plots were wrapped up fairly well during the series, one thing kept bugging me.

Sat-Yr-9 killed Courtney, in the first story arc. When the team found out Brian swore revenge, but then vanished into the timestream, then when he got back was Britanic and never mentioned it, then lost his powers, etc etc.

As far as I could tell, it was not resolved in the series, was it taken care of elsewhere? Also, Widget showing up in one panel in the last issue after being gone and forgotten for 30 issues or so was kind of annoying...

Mario

14:09 / 28.02.06

It looks like Claremont might be picking up that plot thread. Neither Ellis nor Raab seemed interested.

Spyder Todd 2008

15:41 / 28.02.06

It was something about how Odin was a bit of a prick and oppressed a couple frost giant big bads. Thor learns to be a better, fairer king than his father was; Genis continues to prove he really does no what he's doing, even if he has gone all sociopath; and the frost giants get their land back, as I recall. I should really get out that Captain Marvel stuff and reread it.

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:48 / 01.03.06

A question about Sebastian Shaw: in the new issue of Astonishing X-Men, he describes the "mission" he has as "holy". Has there always been a religious/spiritual element to his work, or is this new?

Evil Scientist

13:31 / 01.03.06

New to me. He's always been portrayed as more of a corporate predator than religious type. Kind of like a Marvel Universe Lex Luthor.

Spyder Todd 2008

14:21 / 01.03.06

But with more hair.

Aertho

14:57 / 01.03.06

And piratewear tendencies.

Mr Tricks

16:56 / 01.03.06

There was a brief moment durring the Joe Kelly run where Shaw found a sort of ancient artifact (Mayan?) and was sort of recruited for a greater spiritual destiny. Kelly left the series soon after and that subplot was quickly forgotten, perhaps until now?

ThePirateKing

00:03 / 06.03.06

Cheers for the Thor info, guys.

Looks like the answer is no they didn't nail their colours to the mast.

fluid_state

02:33 / 06.03.06

I seem to remember something about Hercules getting drunk and showing up to Hawkeye's funeral, mad about Thor not having a funeral. The rest of the Avengers were, understandably, perplexed, as Thor "dies" all the time, being beyond the ken of mere mortals and all.

Mario

10:33 / 06.03.06

Yeah, that was at the start of his last mini. However, it's not been referenced in New Avengers of late.

thirty/thirty

12:54 / 08.03.06

I've recently started worrying about the dear children who used to comprise the X-Men's junior team Generation X after hearing that Jubilee has been turned into a lowly human. This group of X-trainees hasn't gotten off as lightly as the first junior team, New Mutants. Of that team only two members died (Cypher and Magick) but the Gen X kids are sort of like Marvels answers to the Brat Pack...seeing as none of their stories ended good.

Of the original team...it seems only Jubilee and M are still alive. Chamber was floating around the back-end of Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men awhile back but what happen to the rest?

Where are they now?

Lama glama

13:25 / 08.03.06

Well, Chamber is currently secreted away in some hospital with a rather large hole in his chest, being kept alive by Shi'ar wizardy, due to M-Day. This was detailed in the recent Generation M mini-series, which was the series that also dealt with Jubilee's regression to human-hood.

doyoufeelloved

14:59 / 08.03.06

Synch and Skin are both dead, Penance merged into M in some way (I think, it's one of the top three worst/most confusing X-Men stories ever and I never bothered to read the whole thing), and Husk is still around -- she was Archangel's girlfriend and a full-fledged X-Man during the Austen run, but has since dropped out of sight. As for their mentors, White Queen is obviously with the X-Men now, and Banshee just got blowed up real good in X-MEN: DEADLY GENESIS. We even saw his corpse, which was depressing.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

15:26 / 08.03.06

WAIT

The killed fucking Banshee?

My god Marvel, stop reading DC comics...

Our Lady Has Left the Building

19:51 / 08.03.06

Has there been a sensible explanation that when the Scarlet Witch changed reality to a world where mutants ruled it was important to make her change it, but not that she's changed reality to one that is more similar to the original but which has less mutants people are just getting on and dealing with it? Why aren't people seeking out the Scarlet Witch to change the universe back to the way it was before 'House of M'? Surely everyone in the Marvel Universe is still living in an alternate reality?

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