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Dead Megatron
16:28 / 14.02.08
I wouldn't say "right", but the back side feels a lot less unsettling.
 
 
Olulabelle
16:38 / 14.02.08
Being robbed at gunpoint is major on the scary scale, poor you.

This whole thread is making me really sad with all the bad things in it. I can't really get my head around not being able to afford to eat because we have such a good welfare system in this country and it's really quite hard to fall through the net, especially if you've got kids. I suppose Canada and the States don't have such a thing. I just think a country has a duty to support the people who are struggling.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:46 / 14.02.08
It's pretty sketchy, Lula. For example, my job -- and this lock-out -- are determined by the library board, which is made up of a good number of people who don't use the library system; and the bargaining body they use (and "bargaining" = "not willing to bargain") is made of representatives from different muncipalities, several of whom are not actually part of this library system. They're more concerned with the bottom line, and people aren't cost-effective.

But, yeah, this thread is full of crap right now. Barbelith feels very miserable right now. But I'm glad it's here.
 
 
Bubblegum Death
16:56 / 14.02.08
Thanks, everyone.

I managed to get some sleep, and then coming back and reading the thread has made me feel better.
 
 
Olulabelle
17:08 / 14.02.08
L&R I'm sorry if I sound naive, I just don't understand the welfare system your country. Do people just get left to starve? How can that be justified?

It all sounds really hideous.
 
 
Papess
18:22 / 14.02.08
This is my situation. Maybe some of the figures there will help you understand why it is so difficult.
 
 
Olulabelle
19:30 / 14.02.08
That is utterly awful and sounds like a constant struggle.

Here people get much more, and you can get things like emergency loans. My friend (who has two children, of ages three and seven) has just got £700 to fix her van. Also, if you can't pay a utility bill lots of the utilities companies have access funds (basically a tax dodge for them) but single Mums or families on a low income can apply and have the bill paid by the utility company.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
20:47 / 14.02.08
as an Americorps volunteer I lived on various forms of US assistance for 3 years.

assuming you have zero income, you get food stamps (about $100 a month which can only be spent on cold food at the store), Medicaid (all doctor, dentist, and eye care free - as long as you get approved (ie shittier) doctors & dentists), and in Syracuse there was a program called HEAP that paid about 1/4 of your utilities bill over the course of a year.

there is something called Section 8 which will give you free (crummy) housing and an additional payment towards your utilities. however the number of households which can get section 8 is capped so you have to wait for another household to get off before you can get on - the queue in Syracuse is currently over four years. I think it's similar here in NYC.

on top of these things there is something called EBT which helps you buy food - I don't know much about how you qualify because I didn't, but I know you are limited to buying cheap and generally not so healthy food.

and finally there is a general financial assistance check you can get. I also wasn't qualified for that and can't say much about it.

you get more money if you have kids. you get less if you have some kind of income. also I know there are some forms of emergency "we're going to starve/freeze right now" provisions for getting quick payments if you need them.

the first big problem is that the qualifying process is long, complicated, and full of stupid bullshit requirements and assholes who dont' really want to help you.

the second big problem is people living right on the edge between legally poor and not. it is very, very easy to make just barely too much money to qualify for any assistance at all, and still be nowhere near what you would need to make to pay for the cheapest, shittiest private health care, rent, food, etc.

I was able to swing it because I am single and supporting only myself, and was making a small volunteer stipend which didn't count to disqualify me from assistance due to legal reasons (after about six months of legal battles to prove this), and also I have big fat credit cards which are now going to take a while to pay back off.
 
 
pony
05:49 / 15.02.08
KoIP, EBT is just newspeak for foodstamps (on a debit-card sort of thing). I don't want to downplay the potential for shittiness in the US social safety net, but I just want to mention that every state where I've worked in a supermarket, EBT funds are valid for any cold food. When I used to work at Whole Foods, I had a few regular customers that ate considerably better than most of the cashiers via EBT.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
12:22 / 15.02.08
Oops! WIC, that's the other program I was thinking of.

EBT is food stamps. any cold food.

WIC I don't know much about, but you can only get food off some approved list, and much of it sucks.
 
 
pony
14:30 / 15.02.08
Oh, WIC. Pretty much sucks, limited to eggs, milk, cheese, some other basics. Semi-healthy versions of these items can be got by buying stuff from local farms, if these are available at supermarkets.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:56 / 15.02.08
Life at the library, waiting for the lockout to come into effect on Sunday, is pretty shell-shocked

I've invoked my supervisor powers over Sundays to book a couple extra people for it, being the last day and an opportunity for some auxiliary clerks to get a bit more pay before the end.

And then freefall. Picketing and job hunting.
 
 
Saint Keggers
21:26 / 15.02.08
Up to here with the local tongue troopers
 
 
Princess
11:35 / 16.02.08
I am being bullied at work because of various personal situations that intersect with my sexuality. A group of people bitch about me every time i walk past. And it makes me feel like a little kid being bullied at school again. It makes me realy uncomfortable and vulnerable because the bitching is coming from someone who might have information about my naked body and sexual perfomance (don't ask). I keep being called dirt, ugly and stupid.

The same group of people are bullying a 16 year old kid on my table because he is gay and because he was raped when he was younger. They are spreading this fact around the call center, and shouting homophobic abuse at him as they walk by.

They sit by the entrance/exit, so i have to walk past them maybe five times a day, and I'm starting to dread it. I hid in the toilets maybe three times today.

I hate feeling this cowed, i hate feeling this weak and ugly. I hate that these stupid, ugly, repulisve people can take my power like that.

I've contacted all the correct people and am taking logs of it etc, but still, shitty.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:33 / 16.02.08
Get them fired.
 
 
*
14:10 / 16.02.08
Very shitty. I'm incensed, Princess. That shouldn't happen to kids in schools, let alone at a workplace.
 
 
jentacular dreams
15:03 / 16.02.08
That's *fucking* *awful*.

AAR is made of good advice.
 
 
pony
15:23 / 16.02.08
Holy Christ... Firing, NOW.
 
 
Papess
15:54 / 16.02.08
Atrocious. FIRED!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:57 / 16.02.08
Fired, or possibly killed.

No, on second thoughts, stick with fired.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
16:06 / 16.02.08
Fired, then killed later in various deniable ways.

I'm so sorry, Princess. The fuckers.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:19 / 16.02.08
What, do they think they can wait behind the school after class and beat you up? Assholes. I also say: firing's too good for them.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:21 / 16.02.08
With one a two hours and tomorrow afternoon of work left, we're all wandering around in a daze and I almost want to just hide in the staffroom and not come out -- a lot of people have been tremendously supportive, but the panic is setting in, and the meaninglessness of people coming in to desperately check out piles of books to "get them through the rough time ahead," as if reading material was the only thing to worry about...

We're all zombies. It's just...it's so very close to the end, the finale, no more work. Waiting. Everything's being shut down, dying, closed off in quick succession.

I don't know. I hate feeling melodramatic about everything but it's hard to fold up all these feelings in my head and keep them safely stored away.
 
 
matthew.
23:01 / 16.02.08
I just had a mole removed two days ago and the dermatologist was fairly concerned. It's either a blue nevi or melanoma. My dad just had a mole removed that turned out to be malignant. This sucks. Plus, all the other personal stuff in my life has made life very hard to cope with right now. Very hard. I'm meeting with my regular physician next Tuesday in the hope that perhaps he can prescribe some meds to help me cope better. Stupid annoying scary thoughts have been plaguing me and panic attacks and seemingly endless bouts of hysterical crying haven't helped. And I was dumped on Christmas Eve.
 
 
Shrug
00:47 / 19.02.08
That's all seems pretty tough, indeed, matthew. Keep your chin up regarding the break-up and good luck with everything else. (Plus, welcome back!)
Similarly, Papers and Princess don't let the concerned bastards keep you down whoever they might be.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:48 / 19.02.08
I'M ILL IT HURTS MY HEAD TO SNEEZE AND COUGH

MY COMPUTER IS BROKEN

I CAN'T READ CYMBELINE IT MAKES MY EYES WATER
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:59 / 19.02.08
NOW SOME wanker has just stolen something from a friend's bag and by all rights I should have seen this happen but didn't. Fuck, fuck, fuck ...
 
 
matthew.
22:51 / 19.02.08
I got some meds today. Hopefully they will help.
 
 
Shrug
23:51 / 19.02.08
Good.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:30 / 21.02.08
On my way to class today I found a little black cat who'd been hit by a car. There was no way to help him--he was too badly hurt to live. I sat by him and stroked his head while he died.

Stupid car.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
19:39 / 21.02.08
That's horrid. Little black cats > cars.
 
 
*
19:46 / 21.02.08
Thank you, nhrt, for acting as his compassionate psychopomp.
 
 
Katherine
12:30 / 22.02.08
Got a phonecall to say I didn't get the job even though I interviewed very well according to the agency.

Miserable I am.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
13:57 / 22.02.08
At least you know your interview skills are good -- you'll get one soon, arch.
 
 
Papess
15:30 / 22.02.08
Oh dear. Sorry to hear that, archabyss. Papers is right though. You will find something soon. Their loss, btw!
 
  

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