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MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
11:59 / 07.02.07
Wow. Sympathies to you both -- Blake, I know what it's like to go to bed cold and sleep cold and wake up cold. My only practical suggestion is that while fixing the windows shouldn't be your responsibility, some Zip-caulk and/or plastic sheeting + two-sided tape would probably help with the draught and really isn't that expensive.

And Disco... man, that must be a grind. Nothing to offer but heartfelt sympathies.
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
12:38 / 07.02.07
Disco, I really do know how you feel. When I cycle to work, I listen to BBC Radio 5 and when I'm running late, this can include the daily phone-in. Today's subject (the following links to the message board, which I really wouldn't recommend reading):

With two teenagers shot dead in the space of a few days, this morning Five Live are asking why this isn't a national scandal?

Would things be different if the kids had been white?

Have we just become callous about violence in some inner city areas?

Do we feel powerless when confronted by gun crime?


Callers (in the majority): I blame the black community for gun crime; I blame the black community for trying to avoid the blame for gun crime; I blame the government for not putting enough police on the streets; I blame the police for not doing their jobs; I blame the courts for being too lenient on the sentencing…

Academic expert on crime and the causes of crime: reasoned explanation of statistics on killings and gun homicide in particular followed by clear, concise exposition of the irrefutable links between poverty and likelihood of death by violent crime, in essence – if you are poor, you are much more likely to die prematurely of anything, including violent crime; if you are black you are much more likely to be poor, therefore if you are black you are much more likely to be killed with a gun, not because you are black but because you are poor.

Callers (in the majority): I blame the black community for gun crime; I blame the black community for trying to avoid the blame for gun crime; I blame the government for not putting enough police on the streets; I blame the police for not doing their jobs; I blame the courts for being too lenient on the sentencing…

Cyclist gently weeping to hirself: This makes me really miserable because the academic, whose name I sadly did not catch, was really clear, reasonable and engaging. He explained that in order to reduce violent crime we need to address poverty – his argument had both compassion and reason to support it and it felt like nobody listened.

I know it’s only a radio phone-in and that these are not the views of everyone, but I feel sad both that we lack the wit as a society to see the need to help people escape poverty, *even when it would benefit it us all*, and that we would rather other and blame than actually try to make things better. And when it is put in front of you so plainly, it’s really sad that we’re choosing to ignore it.
 
 
Princess
13:24 / 09.02.07
Just broke down in the pub and started weeping about how I can't stop thinking about suicide. It only lasted thirty seconds before I manged to reel it all back in, but still, theres an entire pub that thinks I'm a nutter.

My friends, thankfully, took the subtle hint of "CHANGE THE SUBJECT RIGHT NOW!" and we have avoided talking about it at all in the twenty minutes since it has happened.

I'm such a fucktard.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:37 / 09.02.07
Tabitha, you've really got to stop listening to those shows. I used to, and THEY BURNED MY SOUL. Do you really want to listen to the opinions of the credulously ill-informed and morally benighted? I can't work in offices that have those shows on, luckily in public spaces I have an iPod...
 
 
COG
17:05 / 09.02.07
I can't have the person that I want. It was all going well, but now it's stopped. It may get going again in a few weeks time, but for now I don't know, and I hate not knowing. Therefore I am miserable.

For a clichéd situation like this the clichéd answer is clearly drink.

Plus the gas has been cut off in our building because of a leak, so I can't shower or cook or even make tea! Meh.
 
 
Olulabelle
17:23 / 09.02.07
Tabitha, have you tried Radio 4? It's much nicer and far less likely to make you want to shout at people.

In other news I didn't get the job I wanted; apparently I was perfect and would have fitted in really well but another candidate had more Excel knowledge and came from an admin environment. But I suppose at least the woman rang me up to tell me, and she said she wanted to personally wish me luck in the future.

So what was the point of all that? What did the cosmic universe have in mind when it made me come across that job and fall in love with it? Why did I have to go through that whole waste of time? I don't get it, I really don't. Stupid universe.
 
 
saintmae
19:17 / 09.02.07
You ever get that overwhelming rage at someone you're sure deserves part of your anger but probably not all of it? It turns into confusion, like having started a forest fire when you meant to start a campfire. What's even more galling is when they're nice to you, when all you want to do is shout and smite. It takes the wind out of the anger sails, but the damned boat is still there so you're just left with impotent rage and a vague sense of having kicked a puppy.

Yeah, that. Not so fond of it.
 
 
neutral
10:09 / 10.02.07
I have the plague or bird flu, can't decide, and sleeping is futile. I wake up believing mice are crawling all over my body. Plus i have no food in the fridge aside from some rotting vegetables.bleh.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
10:20 / 10.02.07
Princess, are you okay? Have you got good people around to listen and be there if you need em? Be well, now.

Thanks for the sympathies about the rabid racist fucktards. I gotta get sociological on their asses and try to understand why they're feeling what they're feeling, rather than wanting to blow them skyhigh. That's the solution.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:20 / 15.02.07
I have spent the day sick in bed with flu. Again. Normally I can expect a bad bout like this once or twice a year; this is the 3rd bloody time sine I got back from England in Jan.

Sod off, flu.
 
 
COG
17:41 / 15.02.07
There's something in the air today. I feel a bit shivery and itchy nosed, and a bit...well, just odd.
 
 
Olulabelle
22:41 / 15.02.07
My Mum just had to put another one of her dogs down because it had kidney failure just like the other one. Which is just utterly shit and unfair.

Also, it is deeply worrying because the two dogs which have been put down are the mother and father of my dog. So now panicking a bit about that.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:49 / 15.02.07
Ling-Ling- I'm way too drunk now to actually be able to say anything which is going to help in any way- but that's horrible, and my best wishes (incoherent as they may be- and Sheena's, too) are winging their way to you, and your dog, right now.

RIGHT NOW.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:49 / 15.02.07
And your mum, too. Sorry, I said I was drunk. Forgot that part.
 
 
Ticker
22:51 / 15.02.07
Ling-Ling, I strongly suggest taking your dog to a pet nutritionist or consider going raw. Many of my friends have had great success with their cats and dogs' health changing their food. Kidneys are almost always about a food issue.

My cats' health has improved massively from eating raw.

All natural diet for dogs
 
 
grant
00:10 / 16.02.07
My mom's a believer in feeding her dogs raw turkey necks.
 
 
Princess
14:43 / 17.02.07
Radiohead do not mental health make.
 
 
Princess
15:43 / 19.02.07
I'm suicidal most days now. If I'm alone for more than about five minutes, I start to think about how much I hat my life an it always ends up with a vague fantasy about killing myself. I don't intend to follow it up because I have responsibilities. But it worries me that those responsibilities are the only things that stop me.
 
 
Ticker
17:56 / 19.02.07
I dunno kiddo sometimes we hang on by threads. There have been moments when the concept of reincarnating as an even bigger fuck up stayed my hand. Other times it was who would feed the cat, or would my family be crushed by misplaced guilt.
Whatever gets you through the night.

In the end it always turned out I was being forced to learn a new coping skill, some sort of belly crawl through the muddy battle fields.

What concerns me is not hearing about you checking in with a doctor or other skilled health care provider to find out if your misery can be swiftly eased via treatable means. Or what you're doing to help yourself get through it. Taking any supplements or vit B?
 
 
Princess
18:11 / 19.02.07
I went to the doc, they reffered me. I should be getting interviewed by the people at the local psych place. But nothing has come through.
I should also be getting counselling, but that's only once every other week. Last session was cancelled due to snow. That was kinda helpful, but only so far as it gave me the right words. It's not really often enough to be helpful day to day.
As to supliments etc. I have no idea what I should take and no money to buy them with anyway. I'm saving this £20 to last for the next month and a half. My treat to myself for the past month was an apple, an orange and a carton of fruit juice. As much as vitamin's might help they out of my budget at the moment.
 
 
Leigh Monster loses its cool
22:06 / 19.02.07
arra. somebody buy this man some vitamins. will your parents, friends or relations buy you vitamins? Hell, I'll buy you vitamins. And fruit juice. And a puppy. Although I don't know how well puppies hold up in the mail.
 
 
Shrug
23:25 / 19.02.07
Ridiculously, I began to think of self harm as affirmative action last weekend. In a way some kind of visual aid so he could finally realise what effect his alcoholism is having, just pure fucking frustration in another. I seem to have done everything else I can possibly think of.
 
 
Shrug
23:29 / 19.02.07
Plus, I also remembered just how hard you have to press to properly cut into yourself. Ah. So very fucking stupid and oh, s-o-o-o indulgent teenager, I know but at the time it seemed like (hmmm) the thing to do?
 
 
Corey Waits
01:14 / 20.02.07
Princess, also don't underestimate the therapeutic value of exercise. I started exercising soon after "the break up" and I'm feeling physically and emotionally healthier than I have in a long time.

I'm sure it's not some kind of cure-all, but it's the only tangible thing that I've changed, and it seems to be working.
 
 
Ticker
02:13 / 20.02.07
So very fucking stupid and oh, s-o-o-o indulgent teenager, I know but at the time it seemed like (hmmm) the thing to do?

Well somtimes if the available options all seem to be terrible we tend to pick the best of a bad lot. Maybe that angsty teenager in you saved someone from being kicked in the business or clocked in the head.
 
 
Princess
02:49 / 20.02.07
And you don't really have to push that hard to leave scars. It really depends on the implement.
 
 
Quantum
04:37 / 20.02.07
Princess, I love you, and you need to go for a run. Or maybe lift some heavy weights. XK is wise, listen to her.


X-acto cat-ow, I can't say that I know you but I can guarantee that entering into a guilt arms race is a mistake- do something else, e.g. tell him how much of an effect his alcoholism is having, or stack up the empty bottles, or scream at him by surprise when sober, try some alternate strategies but whatever you do self harm is... well... self defeating...
 
 
Shrug
09:03 / 20.02.07
Yep... it definitely did help someone from being kicked in the knackers, xk, which wouldn't have been a acceptable resolution either but still I can't really advocate self-harm or say that there is any agency to it that couldn't be achieved in another way.
Quantum, I have alas tried all of the above or similar. This was a result of pure frustration and something I'm never going to mention to him.
 
 
A Bigger Boat
09:48 / 20.02.07
I just can't seem to stop crying this morning. Just wanted to tell someone. Thanks Barbelith.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
10:03 / 20.02.07
For what it's worth, Boat, Robinson Caruso is now one of the highlights of my week. I don't know what's causing the sadness, but you bring many 'lithers great joy.
 
 
A Bigger Boat
10:50 / 20.02.07
Thanks Matt. In fact thanks to everyone who's dropped by with a kind word for my nonsense. Just can't keep it together today is all. Thank you though.
 
 
Blake Head
13:46 / 21.02.07
My second bad cold in the past fortnight. I do everything right for the first one: stay warm, take time off, rest till I get over it, and then get something just as bad last night. My head hurts, my throat hurts, my eyes hurt, I am light-headed and dizzy and stuck at work. Illness can fuck fuck fuck off.

Oh, and I am making exactly negative progress with any of the things I want to be doing. So I am miserable.
 
 
c0nstant
22:10 / 21.02.07
can you ever have both happiness AND money?

Not if you're me you fucking can't...
 
 
miss wonderstarr
10:58 / 22.02.07
I think I owe it to this thread to post something off-topic. It was around December, I think, that I hit one of the deepest emotional lows of my life. There was one Friday I posted here feeling like I was 80% dead and might as well go the rest of the way. A couple of times shortly after that, I was really close to self-harm, something I'd never done before.

I'd like to thank those who posted then for your support and... your faith, really. I think it was id's post in particular that ze would be honored to meet me one day that made me feel more worthwhile in a significant way ~ that someone online could feel that about me.

There's no physical change to my cubist eye, but after several more trips to the medics, or more accurately a series of waiting rooms, I am on course to getting a custom-made mold for my bad eye so the socket will be the same size and shape as the left. Of course, they have to open me up to fit that, so the same old story of drips, jabs, stitches, morphine, scars and so on; but it's surprising how positive a person can feel about getting surgery, in the right context. The doc said it might not get me 100% back to the way I was, but it will be an improvement. The fuck-off huge frankenstein plate in my eyebrow, with actual nails in it, will also be removed. Might be able to shut my eyelid normally after that.

Anyway. When counselling let me down, I had to fix myself up, and actually it was liberating to know I couldn't rely on the health service. I realised I had to do what I've always done and draw on my own personal strength and resources. I haven't felt anything like that low, since late December.

Maybe I'll update again when my eye gets sliced open once more but I wanted to report something positive, and to show that this thread genuinely helps people.
 
 
Ex
11:07 / 22.02.07
That's really fantastic. I hope it all goes smoothly, both medically and emtoionally - I know you've been in a lot of people's thoughts.
 
  

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