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Triplets
14:29 / 19.01.09
I wear purple but I'm not effem-

Oh wait, I well am.

I didn't really get a girly vibe from Veidt in the trailer. More like aloof and above common concerns. Stereotypically intellectual, perhaps.

Did you see the shot where he ruins the would-be-assassin's shit with the metal post, though? Hardly the action of a puny, puny, girly-man that even Bruce Banner would smash.
 
 
CameronStewart
20:33 / 19.01.09
I hate to say it, Boboss, but it's rather sounding like you're starting to grasp at straws for things to moan about. I actually think the film version of Ozy is far less effeminate than the gold-lamé-bodysuit-and-purple-toga-wearing Veidt of the comic.
 
 
Spaniel
21:06 / 19.01.09
Grasping at straws? I thought we'd established that's my job in this thread?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
02:37 / 20.01.09
I wish this damn movie would come out already.
 
 
Spaniel
09:50 / 20.01.09
Yup
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:59 / 20.01.09
Before that straw one might first grab a handful of all the dialogue in the trailer, no? The humble murex would be under so many straws it would need a good bit of clutching before it was gripped, squeezed and divested of its Tyrian payload.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:46 / 20.01.09
I do agree with Boboss that the whole Doomsday Clock thing seems a bit overdone in the trailers. Not the presence of the image itself - as discussed, it's all over the pages of the comic - but the business of Nixon being sat in a big metal room looking right at the thing, like it's some kind of magical doohickey that's mystically tuned into the international political situation.

It's not particularly subtle.
 
 
Spaniel
07:42 / 21.01.09
Yes, I think you've just done a significantly better job than me of articulating what was making me uncomfortable
 
 
CameronStewart
15:44 / 21.01.09
I guess at this stage, with all that I've seen from the film, I'm far more impressed with what they've got right than wrong. I've sat through From Hell, V For Vendetta, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Constantine, all of them so drastically and infuriatingly altered from the source books as to be nearly unrecognizable. With every little new clip or soundbite I'm stunned that Watchmen is hewing as close to the novel as it appears to be. Lines of dialogue I never expected to hear spoken onscreen are there, intact. Yes, there will be some changes, yes, some of the more subtle elements of the book will have to be made explicit for a mass audience. But I'm sick of nitpicking and focusing on the negatives when it seems that so much has been done right.

I'll be back here to eat my words after the film opens.
 
 
Poke it with a stick
16:02 / 21.01.09
Thanks Cam, an upbeat opinion is a rare thing on this thread sometimes.

So far (aside from the 300-style slow-mo), I don't think there's one thing I could seriously gripe about - they seem to genuinely love the source material.

Not that that means it'll be a good film, but I haven't seen anything to tell me it won't.

And Rorschach sounds so like Moore reading the dialogue himself it's spooky.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:25 / 21.01.09
Oh, I agree absolutely that it is very faithful. If that is your criterion for excitement - if you have primarily been upset by how faithless previous translations of Moore's work to the screen have been - then you have every right to be excited. The choice of a director whose one skill appears to be the loving replication of comic book content on film stock is an inspired choice.

Don't get me wrong. I think this is going to be awesome. But the first trailer with actual acting in it shows that the acting is hilariously bad. Every single line of it resembled "And this is Ororo Munroe, also known as Storm".

I can't wait to see this film. Barbelith IMAX trip?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
18:41 / 21.01.09
And Rorschach sounds so like Moore reading the dialogue himself it's spooky.

I must disagree. Rorschach in my head sounded like the character in this trailer ~ that is, a gravelly, Batman-style badass ~ but Moore's reading of Rorschach's lines on a television documentary I saw last year surprised me a great deal, and suddenly helped me understand why he was frustrated and dismayed that so many readers of Watchmen seemed to celebrate Rorschach as a coldly appealing, hardnosed vigilante, the true hero of the piece.

Moore's reading of Rorschach's journal was not gravelly and bad-ass at all. It wasn't even an attempt at an American accent. It sounded like the guy who sits next to you on the bus ~ the bus outside a Northampton shopping centre, to be precise ~ and starts muttering to you, snuffly and slurpy, about how society's been poisoned by hookers and immigrants, and what he'd like to do about it. (In fact, Moore went on to write exactly this kind of dangerous-weirdo-on-the-Northampton-bus character in Big Numbers).

Sure, I like my version of Rorschach better, not least because I was sixteen when I first encountered it, but I think I was missing Moore's point, and I think the film is doing exactly the same thing. Rorschach is meant to demonstrate that this kind of obsessive, uncompromising vigilante ~ The Question, in real life ~ would be a stinking, prejudiced misfit, just as Nite Owl is supposed to suggest that someone who tried to be Blue Beetle would be a slightly geeky, dedicated but shy hobbyist.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
20:29 / 21.01.09
PS

I don't think of the comic version of Ozymandias as effeminate. Aryan, imperious, vain perhaps, but not effeminate.

RORSCHACH'S JOURNAL. OCTOBER 13TH, 1985

MEETING WITH VEIDT LEFT BAD TASTE IN MOUTH. HE IS PAMPERED AND DECADENT, BETRAYING EVEN HIS OWN SHALLOW, LIBERAL AFFECTATIONS.
POSSIBLY HOMOSEXUAL? MUST REMEMBER TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER.
 
 
Spaniel
20:58 / 21.01.09
Be shush
 
 
miss wonderstarr
21:13 / 21.01.09
One of Barbelith's current problems is too many people being shush.
 
 
Spaniel
21:31 / 21.01.09
Sssshhh
 
 
CameronStewart
21:52 / 21.01.09
"The superman exists, and he's an American."
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
22:02 / 21.01.09
woah. That scene with the tank is awesome.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
22:32 / 21.01.09
That was pretty ace, I must admit. I liked how it looked exactly like the time period. I would not have known if it were manufactured.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:07 / 21.01.09
It sounded like the guy who sits next to you on the bus ~ the bus outside a Northampton shopping centre, to be precise ~ and starts muttering to you, snuffly and slurpy, about how society's been poisoned by hookers and immigrants, and what he'd like to do about it.

I'm a bit surprised that anybody heard Rorshach as anything other than a burbling, slurring, paranoid lunatic - it's always seemed obvious from the typeface used for his voice that it was full of a wobbly, obsessive sense of mental imbalance.
 
 
wicker woman
04:51 / 22.01.09
Don't get me wrong. I think this is going to be awesome. But the first trailer with actual acting in it shows that the acting is hilariously bad. Every single line of it resembled "And this is Ororo Munroe, also known as Storm".

I wouldn't say it's been that bad. I could certainly do without Rorschach, though. Too much '40s hardboiled detective' and not enough 'crazy red-haired guy who smells funny and gives you weird looks'.

The Comedian was a bit 'eh' too, though. Ah well, I guess we'll see shortly.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
05:59 / 22.01.09
it's always seemed obvious from the typeface used for his voice that it was full of a wobbly, obsessive sense of mental imbalance.

That is just when he's wearing the mask, though, so my reading of him as a hardass cool guy simply assumed the wobbly-edged speech balloon signified "muffled through latex".

The white-text-on-black-balloon convention suggesting a deep, gravelly Batman voice was established by Gaiman in 1988 and picked up by Morrison in 1989.

The Doctor Manhattan cartoon in the news clip almost seems credited (on its title card) to "Zot Communications".
 
 
grant
17:14 / 22.01.09
I totally read Rorschach as more than gravelly - sort of a hoarse whisper, maybe something Tom Waits might croak, but not too removed from Brando in The Godfather. A voice with something wrong with it.

I'm not sure how that's supposed to be very different from what I'll call "real" hard-boiled detectives, since part of that trope is that they're all damaged goods. Dirty Harry wheezes. Bogart's Marlowe mutters and spits.

That Moore, he's a clever guy.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:35 / 23.01.09
Awfully awesome.
 
 
CameronStewart
13:05 / 23.01.09
*cough* Already posted.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:43 / 23.01.09
Daamns. Or, even, daamns!
 
 
miss wonderstarr
05:30 / 29.01.09
Surprisingly good (Glenn Fabry!) Mad Magazine parody of Watchmen the comic book, and its transition to cinema, hosted on this site

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Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:18 / 29.01.09
Wonderstarr!

That's a great parody. It's always alarming when MAD churns out something like that. The prison sequence was probably my favourite.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:39 / 29.01.09
I believe it's a Comic-Con special, and I haven't seen a MAD parody that accomplished and tight since, well, probably when I was ten and thought their version of "CHiPS", called "CHuMPS", was masterful satire. Very interesting to see Glenn Fabry pastiching Gibbons' style (and lifting entire panels). The Gunga Diner site has some other worthwhile spin-offs and parodies, though they're hit and miss.
 
 
CameronStewart
03:36 / 30.01.09
 
 
ghadis
06:11 / 30.01.09
What the hell is that!!!
 
 
Spaniel
07:15 / 30.01.09
His snow suit
 
 
ghadis
07:18 / 30.01.09
I so want. The zips are fantastic.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
07:33 / 30.01.09
This seems to add weight to the idea that, just as Moore and Gibbons' Nite Owl Snow Suit was an affectionate parody of the Batman/Blue Beetle wardrobe full of elaborate, rarely-worn outfits for special circumstances, the cinema adaptation is using Nite Owl to affectionately parody Schumacher's Batman, with its sculpted musculature and self-conscious, cod-(piece)-heroic posing in ridiculous armour.






 
 
deja_vroom
08:31 / 30.01.09
But the first trailer with actual acting in it shows that the acting is hilariously bad.

Truth be told, I'm actually hoping for some nice sequences instead of a nice entire movie.

I was more optimistic before those dialogue snippets were released, but hearing them (some lifted verbatim from the comic, like "what happened to the american dream?", which no actor could conceivably save) reminded me of how much of a minefield "Watchmen" is.

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makes me think that maybe it will be one of those situations where you think "man, this could be so much worse" - which is no aesthetic parameter (or at least didn't use to be), but, like, hey.

Also, I'd like to direct you to the newfrontiersman site, because there's a new picture there of the vietcong army kowtowing to Doc Manhattan which is fucking orsome (I'm at work, can't direct link for shit). I'm digging that they really amped up Doc' fear factor. Motherfucker's eerie
 
  

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