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Whisky Priestess
13:13 / 25.08.08
X-Men 3, directed by Brett Ratner.
 
 
dark horse
13:24 / 25.08.08
okay... just wasn't sure what eggs have to do with that movie?!? kelsey grammar's blue suit definitely sucked though.
 
 
GogMickGog
09:49 / 26.08.08
Well, Kelsey doesn't know what to do with them - nor, indeed, that pesky tossed salad.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
11:37 / 26.08.08
Gotta play the fanboy: I was a *HUGE* Clermont era X-Men fan. I was still able to detach myself enough to really enjoy all three X-Films. They weren't true to the comix, but they were passable. I didn't like how they resolved the Phoenix affair (Especially the new origin story...) But hey, it's a 2 hour film, you can't expect that much more.
Plus I thought Grammar looked awesome.
I have high hopes for the Watchmen. I keep telling people that if it stays 50% true to the comic, it should be one of the best films of the year.
Maybe it will be a case of style over substance, as was the case with V for Vendetta, but even then, V stayed close enough to the comic to be truly exceptional. It looks like Watchmen is on track for a similar adaptation.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
18:53 / 04.09.08
Since I was a youngin' when the comics were originally being advertised, I wasn't really aware of the comic ads for the series. So I had no idea the previous page's movie posters were based on the original comic ad campaign.

Thankfully, someone did.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
04:40 / 03.10.08
Late to the plate out of the gate.

You guys think there's any truth to this?
 
 
wicker woman
07:47 / 03.10.08
Don't see why not, though I'm not sure of the legal entanglements of that sort of screening being done considering the Fox lawsuit.

And man, is that guy overly in love with slow motion.
 
 
yichihyon
10:46 / 03.10.08
That's more like it, sounds like it's definitely worth watching!!!
 
 
Quantum
15:43 / 03.10.08
The wait for this is killing me. only a year to go until UK release...
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
18:15 / 03.10.08
There are two reviews of these 25 minutes on AICN today, too. I'm holding onto to the faith based on their reactions.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
18:45 / 03.10.08
These reviews appear to demonstrate satisfactorily that people who are easily pleased will be pleased easily by this film, or a part thereof. I'm not sure what we are being asked to believe or not. That the footage was shown?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
20:39 / 03.10.08
Really?

Seems overly harsh. With something as "sacred" as Watchmen, even the most die-hard fan could be annoyed/disappointed/out of joint about something he saw in a screening, right?

The AICN staff are crazy geeks that like a lot of terrible crap, but they shit on stuff if it destroys their geek nostalgia.

I love the Watchmen, love most of what I've seen so far, but if they show me 25 minutes with terrible dialogue, hyper stylized photography and slow-mo all over the place, it's going to turn me right off. The trailer is cool as hell, but if it looks like the entire movie is one trailer-ized scene after another, lots of people are going to be jumping ship.

That said, I'd be curious to hear what a non-geek says about the footage. Haven't seen a review from that perspective yet.
 
 
Benny the Ball
20:19 / 25.10.08
Spike TV included the following footage - more a remix of the trailer - at their tv awards this week:

CBR Video Watchmen footage

My thoughts are, it looks very nice, and for an early dub I really like the sound mix for the effects - I'm sure these will change, but I really liked them - especially the Nite Owl zooming up and Manhattan and Silk zapping/teleporting.

Dr Manhattan looks a little bit cartoony with the tank, but that's not really a bad thing. Rorschach looked a bit too agile, but the additional footage looked great.

As to the complaints of the love of speed ramping - well, I'm giving Snyder the benefit of the doubt because he seems like a likable guy, I think it's a style choice based on the source material, an attempt to recreate the sense of looking at panels from an actual book, so I don't have much of a problem with it.

I'm a little bit skeptical too get too excited, I'm someone who thought that X-Men 3 look great at the trailer stage, but I'm looking forward to hopefully being proven wrong.
 
 
yichihyon
05:21 / 18.11.08


The Watchmen movie website has a new trailer and new posters for the movie. It's a shame the Ozymandias Poster gives away crucial plot elements!!!

Watchmen Movie Website with new trailer and posters!!!!
 
 
Quantum
07:57 / 18.11.08
I have already been spoilt, grr. Where's the code for that hiding-text-thing...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:25 / 18.11.08
It soounds like Rorschach self-identifies as a 'Watchman' in that trailer: "Watchmen. One of us died tonight". And then somebody says it again later on: "Watchmen are over".

I hope I'm mishearing, because the whole point of the term is that it's an attack on superhero egos, not a group name that they chose for themselves. If Snyder doesn't understand that basic point, then this may end up being a visually exciting movie with a seriously confused narrative.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
18:47 / 18.11.08
Reports are that the post-Minutemen team is called Watchmen in the movie, so I don't think you mishearing or misinterpreting the trailer. I agree, pretty unfortunate decision but I guess I can understand that they need to have Watchmen as a marketable brand that they can push out there as a team name..... ah, shit, Alan Moore just came at me with an axe, shit, *crash*..................................
 
 
■
09:21 / 19.11.08
Zack killed (or rather didn't) the squid.
So presumably that's the disappearing artists an psychics out the story to add to all the Minutemen stuff (any sign of Hollis or Sally in the trailers?). What's the chances of an intricate plot to get Jon off-world involving two feuding media companies getting in? Thought not.
I know, I know, things have to be sliced to fit the film format. But that's just my point. It was a landmark because of the was it used the medium so well (not least the serial format.. I was doing work experience in a comics shop when the last one came out. The number of people who picked their copy up and read it straight through right there before going "WOW" amazed me), not necessarily because of the main narrative. What's good about it is that it fits the form so well, so any adaptation is likely to be a biiig step down.
Anyway, will end up seeing it, I'm sure, and want to be pleasantly surprised. Just don't rate my chances.
 
 
Seth
11:00 / 19.11.08
It depends how well the writers have constructed what I hear about the alternate threat that makes up the ending. It could work very well, as well as the squid, and it will almost certainly be more streamlined. Plus the original squid ending was as good as made in cinema twenty years ago, and even though it hit the cutting room floor you can still see it on The Abyss special edition.

This opinion has been bought to you by someone who is, a) lowering their expectations because everything so far looks so poor and, b) is really tired to seeing new York having the shit kicked out of it.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:51 / 20.11.08
Rorscharch still sounds really COOL then.

This is going to be a film about how COOL Watchmen is.

"That's scene's so neat! Wouldn't it look better in slo-mo!?!"

It's not purism - Watchmen's badness won't hurt me - it's just Snyder being a great big babyfan.

I know everyone wants to get excited about this film, but there needs to be at least one curmudgeon.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
12:20 / 20.11.08
I'm still holding out hope that the slo-mo/freeze frame stuff is mostly to make the trailers look cool and doesn't cover the entire movie. I also had a thought that he is doing that for a reason, namely to make it feel somewhat static like a comic book panel in certain places. Picking out certain panels and centering the slo-mo around highlighting a panel that will resonate... perhaps that's too hopeful but I really want this movie to be good. The reports from people that have seen whole sequences don't mention much about slo-mo style touches so that's something to consider too.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
14:43 / 20.11.08
I'm fairly curmudgeonly about the film, as well. I'm a little bored with the mentality of "mimicking the appearance of a comic book" when adapting these properties. I don't want the film to look cool -- it always struck me as being so rank a comic, so dingy-noir with the broken down world and approaching apocalypse, that having it be as slick as the trailer would probably ruin some of the visual appeal for me. Which is fanboy whining, I know, but there's something to be said for letting the story actually define the look of a film instead of trying to mimic every other comic book movie out there...
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
07:27 / 21.11.08
Papers, please don't let you and Natural Way be the same person.

Here's my meager two Ameri-cents:

I think I have said this before. I never expected Watchmen to be adapted in any live-action in my lifetime. Heck, I never expected to be done in any form except what is. That said, I do have expectations of this guy. I like his commitment. I like his apparent dedication. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

The trailers thus far have made me hopeful. It looks beautiful. I honestly want the message of the comic to reach those who are not looking for message; I want it to be an insidious I-can't-swat-this-away bug in their brain. I know that most of the moviegoing audience cannot probably do this; but I want the possibility to be there.

Again, let's have some hope around here. There are tons of messageboards dedicated to dork-wanking and dork-nit-picking. I have never thought of Barbelith as such. We do it, yes, but we always bring something a bit nobler to our discourse.

Okay. Now done. Thanks.
 
 
dark horse
12:45 / 21.11.08
good thoughts there kali. we could all do with being a bit less skeptical especially in this time and day...
 
 
Benny the Ball
15:51 / 21.11.08
Keith, that's my thinking also.

As for the slow-mo (speed ramping) used in the trailer - I doubt that it is just a trailer choice, shooting this would be a costly exercise, so will probably be in the final product.
 
 
Poke it with a stick
15:57 / 21.11.08
Cube, I'm pretty sure they're using the Black Freighter story on the DVD - it simply would have messed with the head of anyone who hadn't read the original graphic novel. That's the thinking anyway.

How they're going to splice the comic's author back into the film on an extended version if, as has been said, they're changing the ending I have no idea.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
21:27 / 22.11.08
They might just restore the original ending for the fanboy DVD. We know they shot it.

They also have an interview with Hollis that serves the same function as the Under the Hood prose stuff. That's supposedly getting edited in, too. Could we be looking at a two-and-a-half-hour theatrical cut with a new ending, and a four-or-five-hour hour cut for the fans with the original ending? That would be sweet.
 
 
Spaniel
09:58 / 23.11.08
It just reminds me of the Star Wars Prequels. It looks to me very much like a post-Watchmen excercise. Fanwank. There's absolutely no subtlety to the trailers whatsoever - they're completely spunking over the ur-text. If it might look cool DO IT! If it involves DRAMA, make someone fall on their knees and bellow DO IT! If it involves Rorsharch, make it freakin' Batman, baby DO IT!

Watchmen's goodness has very little to do with fanwankery.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the guy made 300. So far this looks alot like 300. I don't think that's a good thing. You might.

Hey ho.
 
 
Spaniel
10:01 / 24.11.08
Natural Way posting as me (again)
 
 
The Natural Way
10:16 / 24.11.08
But you wish I really was you, cause' I'm so right.

Or am I wrong?

*sinks to the floor*

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"

Also, I'm not sure I really buy the 'he wants to make it look like a comic panel' argument for the slo-mo. Wasn't 300 full of slo-mo too?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:22 / 24.11.08
Well, 300 was also based on a comic, and you could possibly argue that the way that in every sequence the action slowed to a stop to freeze on a dynamic image (Leonidas preparing to throw a spear, say) and then sped up to about three times normal speed (spear wooshy wooshy through the air IN POV) to get to the next dynamic image (the spear hitting a Persian, say), on which it then froze ,could be seen as the equivalent of the mind rapidly sketching in the action taking place in the gutters between two panels of a comic.

Ahem.
 
 
Spaniel
11:10 / 24.11.08
One thing's for certain, the poster campaign is bloody awful.
 
 
Evil Scientist
12:47 / 24.11.08
One thing's for certain, the poster campaign is bloody awful.

I think the "classic" era Silk Spectre poster has a certain something, but other than that they're pretty much by the numbers.

Going back to the potential removal of the squid from the closing act. I'm wondering if the decision to excise that particular scene has more to do with what the potential classification of the film will be when it comes out.

One presumes that, in a similar fashion to The Dark Knight, the studio execs are hoping to draw in those all-important teen dollars and that not having a shot-for-shot pan through of post-squid New York will allow them to classify it as a Certificate 15 (UK system) rather than a Certificate 18.

As I understand it (from discussions over the violence in The Dark Knight) as long as there is only very brief shots of blood, and the violence is "suggested" (ie the audience see someone stabbing down with a knife but doesn't actually see the contact) then the lower certification can be used.

Given the high gore-factor of the book's ending perhaps that's why they've gone for a "bloodless" ending (not that that couldn't be done with Squiddy-McSquidson).
 
 
CameronStewart
12:54 / 24.11.08
Watchmen has been determined to have an R rating when released in the US and Canada, and so likely an 18 Cert. in the UK...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:57 / 24.11.08
It just reminds me of the Star Wars Prequels

Oh come on, that's harsh. The first two of those were pretty much the least engaging/most aggressively cackhanded big budget movies released in the last twenty years, and therefore probably ever. There's no suggestion in anything I've seen that 'Watchmen' is going anywhere near those depths, artistically.

And I quite like the new trailer, I have to say. I thought the Muse song worked well on the soundtrack, and so on.

All right, it lacks subtlety, perhaps, all thirty seconds of it, but at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, it's a superhero movie, so initially the producers are bound to market it that way, with explosions, fight scenes, blaring music, etc, in the hope, presumably, that the serious critics (to the extent that those still exist, now a lot of the people who used, traditionally, to own a garden gnome have a blog instead, and there are twenty-odd mags and papers you'd need to get through before you could say there was any kind of consensus) will pick up on the other two and a half hours, once it's on general release.

Really, no wonder the marketing's a bit trashy.

It won't be the film of the comic, of course, but I'm okay with that. I never could stand the 'Black Freighter' stuff, for example - Alan was just upping the page-count, I always felt, the hippie.

And that's beside the point. Which is, what's the use of going to the cinema, or anywhere else, to watch a text you know very well played out in exactly the same way?
 
  

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