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Benny the Ball
19:08 / 27.11.08
Papers, you are aware that Gilliam was long touted as the only man who could bring watchmen to the screen?

Fact is, cinema is business, Gilliam isn't money, Snyder is. This is his Watchmen, his take, along with Warner Bros executives. Go watch it thinking like that and you might enjoy it more. Go expecting your Watchmen or Moore and Gibson's and you might not like what you see.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:13 / 27.11.08
Alternatively, don't go and see it. Stay at home and play the video game.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:16 / 27.11.08
I wonder what button combinations produce Rorschach's power-brooding mode.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:44 / 27.11.08
I suppose if you just mention his mother ...
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
23:51 / 27.11.08
The idea of a Watchmen fighting game is the dumbest thing I've heard since the Veep nomination of Sarah Palin. Which makes it one of the three stupidest things I've heard of in 2008. That's pretty impressive.

That being said, if you can make Rorshach throw bacon grease onto Manhattan's junk, I'm totally there.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:12 / 28.11.08
I'm shocked they didn't try this with V For Vendetta, although a computer game of that arguably makes more sense.

I'm hoping theres a cheat that allows you to play as the Giga-Squid fighting giant nekid Manhatten.

I feel a hentai slashfic coming on.
 
 
deja_vroom
10:26 / 01.12.08
So.

Someone at the Watchmen Movie Forum posted an assessment of the so-called "Orci/Kurtzman draft"; in hir words, "something that shows definitively what said script changed/left out, etc". It must be pretty reliable information - it's certainly being treated/discussed as such at the board, and their mods seem to be the people who would know.

I myself didn't read it, but in the interests of providing temptation for those who want it, I'm pasting the whole thing below.

[+] [-] Spoiler
 
 
grant
15:26 / 01.12.08
That commentator is really into the sugar cubes, yeah?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:10 / 01.12.08
In defense of the spacesquid: what made that such a powerful moment in the comic wasn't just the fact that it'd already happened, but the awful, rotting fleshiness of it. This enormous glunk of foul meat, tentacles and beaks, with all the extra meat of the corpses, dead by brainfuck. The feeling that it was a huge outdoor abattoir.

Now, spacesquid could never have made it into the film, because it'd be nearly impossible to make it look anything other than fucking stupid. That, plus without the Black Freighter, there's no background for it.

But what still needs to be in there, for the ending to have the impact it requires, is shitloads of corpses.
 
 
grant
17:21 / 01.12.08
Well, there was also that link between the dead squid and the dead Comedian - both tossed onto the streets of New York.

I imagine there's room to do some cinema magic linking those two things.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
17:25 / 01.12.08
The news-vendor and kid, the cab-driver and her girlfriend, the psychiatrist and his wife: all their petty arguements and mundane worries and then the looks of horror and a flash of white as the news-vendor(Who starts hard and softens as the future looks more and more grim) tries to shelter the boy...
That page always brings a tear to my eye when I read it. The human-ness which makes the story work... I hope it's not completely lost or overlooked in the film, but I don't see it being quite as powerful even if its left in.
Still, despite the flash and new costumes, each preview I've seen is pretty straight from the book, so I still cling to hope...

Probably discussed elsewhere: The first time I saw "The Incredibles" I tried to tell my wife just how much it "borrowed" from the Watchmen. From the way society turns against heroes down to the effort to design a costume and the danger of capes... How many reviews do you suppose will compare Watchmen as being an "adult" version of the Incredibles?
 
 
iamus
22:37 / 01.12.08
I think the squid could work no bother, with the right design and grounding. It just has to be visceral and sickening enough to evoke that base human bodyhorror. Geiger's Alien didn't look stupid, because it looked fucking minging. Not all of that is down to the setting you find it in.

That summation makes the movie sound like a pretty damn clever piece of writing. I'm really quite interested to see what they turn out.
 
 
wicker woman
08:11 / 02.12.08
with the exception of the nuclear explosion money shot

There's not confirmation that that's Ozymandias' bit of horror to shock humanity into hugging each other, is it? I'm hoping that's just a special effects throwaway. The destruction has to quite obviously be the work of outside, unknowable forces, or else the whole damn thing falls apart.
 
 
Spaniel
12:22 / 02.12.08
Iamus = correct. Of course they could do the squid.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:01 / 02.12.08
Yeah, they could, but it'd take a hell of a lot of care and effort. And I still think that it relies heavily on the presence of the Black Freighter stuff - not only because of the links to the author/artist of that bit of fiction, but also because the Black Freighter has a similar kind of rancid horror going on within its pages. You spend the majority of the book placing that stuff within the story's own internal fiction, so when it breaks out of those pages, into reality, that moment is made even more horrific.

There's not confirmation that that's Ozymandias' bit of horror to shock humanity into hugging each other, is it?

Watch the trailer again. It's framed in exactly the same manner as the panel from Dreiberg's dream.
 
 
Janean Patience
16:55 / 02.12.08
Geiger's Alien didn't look stupid, because it looked fucking minging.

You know, remarks like that in the school playground are what made the Alien so mean and quick to anger in the first place.
 
 
■
22:07 / 02.12.08
"Golly, Miss, I don't want her on the team! Her jaws keep getting tangled in the lacrosse racket!"
"Quite right, too, Bunty. Xenia, stop disembowelling Pargeter Junior!"
 
 
wicker woman
06:33 / 03.12.08
Watch the trailer again. It's framed in exactly the same manner as the panel from Dreiberg's dream.

Should've been more accurate as to what I was referencing. For some reason, when I read "nuclear explosion", the first thing to pop into my head was the scene that plays when Laurie says "Jon thinks there's going to be a nuclear war", and we see the electromagnetic-whatever blast tear down a street and through a couple of buildings, as opposed to the much more subtle actual nuclear explosion. You'll have to pardon my not being quick on the uptake.

Anyway, I suppose if that explosion is the culmination of Adrian's plans, it could be alright depending on how it plays out. And, as you said, so long as there's a shitload of corpses.
 
 
CameronStewart
03:51 / 10.12.08
Comicon Footage.

By far the most effective of all the trailers yet seen...
 
 
Automatic
10:54 / 10.12.08
OK, I'll reserve judgment for the rest of the film, but those Minutemen scenes look dead on. Especially the way Sally rubs her eyes after the flash, and the Comedian looks up at her.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:03 / 10.12.08
It certainly looks a lot like the comic. Note that the 300 slow freeze frame is used to identify which moment of eg the fall is the comic book money shot. Nice touch.
 
 
Spaniel
14:37 / 10.12.08
That was a nice trailer

I want the film to be as good as that trailer
 
 
deja_vroom
15:08 / 10.12.08
General reaction among fans seems to be focusing less and less on what was removed/changed and more on all the supposedly expendable background minutia that's actually getting in. That's gotta be unprecedented for a Moore adaptation...
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:46 / 10.12.08
It certainly looks a lot like the comic. Note that the 300 slow freeze frame is used to identify which moment of eg the fall is the comic book money shot. Nice touch.

Which is the hope I was trying to express upthread. It's nice to get a little assurance that this may actually be the tactic Snyder is taking.

There is also this new embedded commercial/trailer thingie which has a lot of interesting scenes in it.
 
 
Spaniel
08:27 / 11.12.08
I don’t know. I’m not sure that that kind of referencing is really needed. I mean, what does it actually bring to the party? Really? Sure it demonstrates a level of respect for the comic, but ultimately it could come across as hollow fannish onanism. It could be a needless metatextual distraction, basically, and its potential inclusion makes me worry that TNW’s fears are gonna turn out to be of the money: that the whole thing will reek of ur-spunk rather than genuine quality.

See how I’m trying to keep my expectations low!
 
 
CameronStewart
22:45 / 12.12.08
Anyone concerned that Zack Snyder doesn't understand the book or its essential themes should watch this interview, in which he outlines his approach to the film with extraordinary eloquence.

I'm sold, arent you?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:08 / 12.12.08
Um....yeah. I guess that... well.. let me put it like this.... I figured that when Snyder took over the... is the word I'm looking for "project"? OK, so when he took over... I think the thing is that I think like I talked about a lot of stuff and I just needed to (laughs) get it straight in my head, you know?


tl;dr: The Black Freighter sequence is in, dudes.
 
 
CameronStewart
23:42 / 12.12.08
To be fair, Snyder appears drunk/exhausted/under the weather/all of the above and I certainly have done interviews under similar conditions where I've felt inarticulate...

....but still. "Tonally it had to have that impossibly cool Watchmen...ish...ness."

I can't believe how my enthusiasm for this film can be so incredibly high one day and so deeply low the next.
 
 
iamus
00:35 / 13.12.08
You never know, it's possible that as long as the script nails it, Snyder might be the perfect man for the job, going straight by the book and focusing on the visual aspects, not bringing any of his own overthought critical pretensions.

It's not impossible...


In other news, I was just thinking that this may actually be both the longest running and the best behaved hype thread on Barbelith.
 
 
Speedy
04:27 / 13.12.08
Took a look through some of those "behind the scenes" clips on YouTube ...

The idea of running a giant psychedelic squid through that meticulously realistic set really appeals to me.

Shame it’s out. What happens to the subplot about the writers, artists, designers (... cgi people, dialogue coaches, clapper loaders, PR flacks...) who built the thing? Had to go I guess.

But doesn’t the murder mystery plot get going from Blake’s discovery of the island where they’re producing the monster? Doesn’t quite have the same wow factor if it’s just a bog-standard nuke facility. WMD with tentacles (and its own team of script consultants) is a more ridiculously elaborate practical joke, one that proved to be beyond the pale even for “the Comedian”.
 
 
Speedy
07:04 / 13.12.08
Now that I think about it, the attack can’t be something as banal as nukes, because Viedt’s plan relies on it being perceived as an alien threat to the world.

So the destruction of New York will have to be something at least a little outre.

Giant Stay Puft Man’s been done
 
 
Speedy
07:19 / 13.12.08
I hope it's something giant.

A Terry Gilliam foot would be ironic.

Alan Moore's beard ...
 
 
grant
12:52 / 15.12.08
...blocking out the sun!

... filling every street and alley!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:07 / 15.12.08
To be fair to Snyder, I think almost anyone would be a bit on edge if they had to speak to Blunty.

As long as he was able to get his point across to the actors and tech people, it probably doesn't matter that much if he's less than articulate elsewhere.

I still think this could be good. And if it's not an artistic triumph, laying into it on the web will at least be quite good character-destroying stuff, I suppose.
 
 
yichihyon
23:56 / 15.12.08

Watchmen Comic Con preview trailer....
 
  

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