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Spatula Clarke
16:28 / 22.07.08
Okay. wildstallion, if you want a future on this board, spend some time reading the fucking thing and figuring out why the use of terms like 'trannies' will get you kicked off it. Only start posting again once you've come to understand that.

Wrt 300, was all of the shit present in Miller's original book? I'm guessing the answer's yes, in which case it's unlikely that you'll see it repeated in this film, but if Snyder brought that to the material himself, it's a justifiable concern.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:50 / 22.07.08
Steady on, Randy. I think wildstallion may be genuinely confused about the term transphobia, and its application to 300, which I would say is more terrified of threats to conventional masculinity than precisely transphobic. You're certainly right that Frank Miller's 300 was a seething mass of neuroses to start with, though.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
18:06 / 22.07.08
Oh, I certianly won't argue that the original 300 isn't free of problematic portrayals of masculinity. However, and I'm going to be a bad Barbelither and not have a specific link at hand, Snyder has gone on the record as including transexuals in Xerxes' harem because they creep people out.

I need to find the exact quote.

Even if he hadn't gone on the record regarding that, he also did very clearly use transexuals as part of the language of the grotesque that he build up around Xerxes. It was one of many extremely problematic things he added to flesh out Xerxes being evvvillleee or at least "Other" which for the purposes of 300 is the same thing. And there aren't any in the original book, I checked.

So while I figure Transphobia is part of a whole spectrum of gender-based, race-baced, and possibly political complaints one could make about 300, I think it's still a valid criticism.
 
 
dark horse
18:17 / 22.07.08
whoa, ok e. randy and anyone else i'm sorry if i offended you but i don't think "tranny" is an offensive term, i know some transvestites use the term themselves.... i'm not here to start fights though i just want to talk about cool shit with all the groovy people on this most excellent board so if my post was offensive please delete it!
 
 
deja_vroom
18:35 / 22.07.08
Speaking of the guy who played Xerxes, he actually played a transsexual in a brazilian prison movie, a character called Lady Di:

 
 
dark horse
18:39 / 22.07.08
we should probably get back to talking about watchmen!

this is a painting of the silk spectre that will be in the film:

 
 
FinderWolf
18:56 / 22.07.08
The above was painted by famed comics artist (and longtime FABLES cover artist) James Jean, by the way.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:00 / 22.07.08
Mongoose - ah. I saw 300 on a seatback, so I didn't get some of the finer details there. No idea if Frank Miller included icky trans narratives, but yes. If all correct, see your point.
 
 
yichihyon
16:52 / 01.08.08






 
 
Dead Megatron
16:55 / 01.08.08
The posters are great, but this "from the visionary director of 300" line is so annoying
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
19:35 / 01.08.08
I think the expectation that a movie about Spartans should conform to with-it lefty sexual politics is... amusing.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:50 / 01.08.08
Absolutely! Especially since it was so utterly faithful to recreating the society of Sparta in every other element.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
00:37 / 02.08.08
I'm just saying, man. As a character study of the vilest douchebags in Western History, it was pretty all right.

But I should bump the 300 thread if I wanna talk about that, so, yeah, Watchmen. CGI, bro!
 
 
Triplets
02:33 / 02.08.08
I didn't think I would see the day...

... that I saw Manhattan's big, green screen cock.

Those who have been keeping track know this has been an ever-present worry in my life.
 
 
osymandus
13:40 / 05.08.08
I'm just saying, man. As a character study of the vilest douchebags in Western History, it was pretty all right.

They've made a film about the Holy Roman Empire ???

Anyway great posters and look of the comic is coming throught , but im still very sceptical of the script . Any ideas on running time ?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:07 / 05.08.08
I think the expectation that a movie about Spartans should conform to with-it lefty sexual politics is... amusing.

For quite a long time the Spartans didn't have private property and saw homosexuality as a natural, beautiful occurence. Whether it was wise to expect an action film made about them in the current political climate to reflect this is perhaps a different matter, but still.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
12:55 / 07.08.08
Wow.Those posters look fantastic.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:22 / 07.08.08
For quite a long time the Spartans didn't have private property and saw homosexuality as a natural, beautiful occurence.

Just FYI, this portrayal is actually less accurate than that of 300.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:28 / 07.08.08
It's the impression I got from Thucydides. Was I duped?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:21 / 07.08.08
I'm not sure how far to go on this in a thread about Doctor Manhattan's CGI wangdoodle, but the short version is that Spartan men lived collectively but they owned land, which their wives administered and which were tilled by helots. Spartan men were not allowed to practice a trade or to own gold or silver, so the work of actually making the economy work was the job of the perioeci (resident non-Spartiates) and helots (indigenous slaves).

Talking about homosexuality in terms of any pre-modern culture is a tough sell - certainly, Spartan society fostered massive homosociality, but it appears to have encouraged pederasty, specifically, rather than what we would recognise as the general weal of man-man love.
 
 
Evil Scientist
13:18 / 08.08.08
So i just saw the trailer and really enjoyed it. Visually the film looks fracking awesome. The Owl-ship emerging from the river was a thing of beauty, multiple Manhatten's uncomprehending faces, Nite Owl kicking ass in the prison, Silk Spectre smoldering, Rorshach's rooftop dwelling. All good.

All good visually.

But then I tell myself that of course it's going to look good visually. I'm not letting myself get too excited. I'm also going to try and not get over-saturated by the year of viral ads which will no doubt be coming our way.

I will fail.
 
 
osymandus
11:41 / 11.08.08
This months Empire magaizine says that the pirtae Animation , and the novels etc that appear inbetween the story will be on the extended DVD . So one to wait for there
 
 
Quantum
11:13 / 13.08.08
Eeeeee! So excited despite myself! Eeeee Black Freighter DVD! I know it's going to disappoint me but it looks fabulous and the cover of Empire made me want to watch it right now, and it's still a bastard year away argh!
 
 
Quantum
12:55 / 13.08.08
News update- Jon Arbuckle rumoured to have a part in the movie-

 
 
osymandus
10:35 / 19.08.08
Hmm is it now even to be released !!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7569770.stm
 
 
Quantum
11:11 / 19.08.08
HATE FOX! HATE THEM!
 
 
Automatic
12:22 / 19.08.08
Ha! I knew this film would never come out! I fucking knew it!

I hope Alan Moore gets called to give evidence, it'd be entertaining to see just how grumpy one man can get about Hollywood.
 
 
FinderWolf
01:34 / 20.08.08
Given all the buzz and $$$ anticipation generated by the trailer, DC printing 200,000+ copies, etc., I foresee a financial payoff settling this case and allowing Warners to release their movie that Everyone Is Eagerly Awaiting In 2009.
 
 
Mark Parsons
05:37 / 20.08.08
Despite Fox's claim that it simply wants the movie not to come out, I have a hard time believing that will be a hard and fast POV. Money talks. Plus, I would imagine halting the movie's release might engender some VERY bad industry feelings towards Fox.

Imagine Snyder going the Terry Gilliam route RE Brazil - "Dear Fox, When are you going to release my movie WATCHMEN?" Sneak peak screenings to critics, etc. Can Fox be shamed? Actually, the evidence might indicate "No" as an answer...
 
 
Mark Parsons
05:42 / 20.08.08
Also, I read on Deadline Hollywood (Nikki Finke is an industry cheese) that Fox would have to pay for all marketing expenditures prior to bringing the case to court. That would seem to massively offset/overwhelm their development costs, which they claim should have been paid.

Wouldn't it be great if Fox DID get a permanent injunction and Warner's covertly released the movie via the internets? Free WATCHMEN the Movie!
 
 
dark horse
17:35 / 20.08.08
maybe we need a petition similar to this one.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:47 / 20.08.08
I agree! If we start on demanding a running time of no more than an hour, we can balance it out.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
12:17 / 21.08.08
Well, seeing as Fox make films of Marvel comics, so it's Marvel-Fox versus DC-Warners is it just, to quote Leo McGarry, 'an old school thing'?
 
 
Mark Parsons
05:14 / 25.08.08
Actually, considering the Rattnerized Eggsmen 3 and the Funtastic Four movies, Fox is more like evil, unholy leatherface-wearing imposter Zombie-Marvel. They will eat everything and turn it into smelly zombie rupert-murdochean bloodfarts.
 
 
dark horse
12:52 / 25.08.08
Rattnerized Eggsmen 3

huh??!?
 
  

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