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Big Brother 2006

 
  

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Ganesh
10:57 / 25.05.06
Yeah. Hellyoaks here we come.

Let's have some creative replacements, hmm, Big Brother?
 
 
Sax
10:59 / 25.05.06
Is there possibly time for anyone to have won a golden ticket from a Kit-Kat wrapper yet, or has all that been exposed as a ruse?
 
 
Ganesh
11:00 / 25.05.06
I think that was planned for midway through the series. The no-suitcases-forevar!1! trick is, IMHO, backfiring.
 
 
Smoothly
11:03 / 25.05.06
I don’t understand. Did she walk or was she pushed? When was she communicating with the outside world?
 
 
Sax
11:04 / 25.05.06
Apologies if we've had this (the thread moves faster than I can shit) but one for the Sezer haters.

Allegedly, etc.
 
 
Sax
11:13 / 25.05.06
According to the DS forum, there's talk that Dawn was writing messages on her hand.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:14 / 25.05.06
In Nikki's defence, she's almost 15 years younger than Dawn, so she might arguably be cut slightly more slack when it comes to employing somewhat adolescent emotional blackmail. Arguably.

Fair point. The age difference is something I hadn't really factored in.

Well, if the DS story about Nikki having previously suffered from a severe eating disorder is even halfway true (and, while I suspect her friend was exaggerating the 'OMG!! SHE MIGHT KILL HERSLEF!1!!' aspects, I see no reason to doubt the central assertion), then there's perhaps more to her contamination fears than simply being precious. Which may not make them any less forgivable - or funny - but may frame them in terms other than simply Nikki being a spoilt princess.

By precious I mean as in valuable, unique. Not as in stroppy, or touchy.

I suppose. But she seemed to take a lot of pleasure in talking to the others about Dawn's BO, the kind of pleasure one gets by being rude behind someone's back. The contamination fears are only one element of the "poor lost little girl" aura she occasionally projects.

BB most likely cuts and edits to accentuate that aspect of her anyway. I'm probably a little prejudiced against her because I percieve it to be an act and she may actually genuinely be like that. It just annoys me.

But it being an act isn't my problem (hell it's BB after all, everyone's acting). But it's that it all seems so overblown with Nicki, and yet everyone flocks round her like mother hens.

Still, as you say, past emotional trauma should be taken into account when considering a housemate's negative traits (indeed there may be traumatic events lurking in Mikey's or Sezer's past which, in part, account for their misogyny).

In what way defensive? Because the group would perceive Dawn's annoyance as directed at them for choosing Nikki over her? Maybe. I think there's an age gradient in the House, certainly, with a strong, if implicit, understanding that perceived childishness is the preserve of the young.

Perhaps defensive is the wrong word. But I was suggesting that maybe they felt like Dawn should be able to handle the double-blow of nomination and not getting her case because she's percieved to be more emotionally mature, and level-headed. So when she didn't live up to that expectation they were less than sympathetic.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:18 / 25.05.06
Shee-oot. They come down hard on message writing this year! No warnings, nothing!

This'll all be over by next week at this rate.
 
 
Sniv
11:36 / 25.05.06
Had the non-Brotherhood housemates been told that they would never get their suitcases back? I was under the impression that it'd last for the first week (y'know, the one with the brotherhood task), and the HMs left would get their suitcases after the eviction.

The HM's seem to be a tad more melodramatic this year (and the dramas semm incredibly condensed - what is this, week 7?). I can honestly say I wouldn't give a shit if I had to wear the same things all week. As long as I could wash my pants every few days, I'd be fine. But them, I'm a gungy boy, and they don't seem to have any of us in this year. Here's hoping some proper skanky fuckers go in!

Also, slight treadrot, anyone else find the Sun's need to describe most rape victims as 'pretty' to be more than a little offensive? It's a personal bugbear of mine, and makes me feel very icky when I read it. Oh well, at least it wasn't 'pretty blonde'.... this time.
 
 
Smoothly
11:58 / 25.05.06
Cos it’s worse when they’re pretty John. Much as when people of school age die, the tragedy is deepened by the fact that they were ‘bright’.

I have sympathy with the suitcaseless housemates. As I think someone said earlier, personal possessions would have enormous symbolic importance in that kind of environment- representing security, identity, home etc. It also forces them into the role of borrower and never lender. I would fucking hate it.
 
 
Evil Scientist
12:08 / 25.05.06
I would fucking hate it.

Me too. Of course that would be because I'd hidden a load of books in the suitcase lining and would be going half out of my mind without my daily dosage of scifi.

Basic tactic going into the house is wear two pairs of pants and socks. That way at least you can have clean grundies no matter what else happens.

Isn't hindsight marvellous?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:20 / 25.05.06
B-but, Dawn hates everyone, why would she be interested in communicating with the outside world? What did she have written on her hand in any case, 'Wankers' or some such?
 
 
Sax
13:16 / 25.05.06
Apparently it was Fuck me, that Nikki don't half hum.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:21 / 25.05.06
Hooray! Uri Geller thinks Nikki's gonna win! That mean's she's SO out in the next couple of weeks!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:30 / 25.05.06
Wow. They just showed Shahbaz describing Sezer as an "inconsiderate sexist pig". So he wasn't COMPLETELY insane, then...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:31 / 25.05.06
Basic tactic going into the house is wear two pairs of pants and socks.

Now what you've done there is mixed up game shows with suicide bombings.
 
 
Sax
13:33 / 25.05.06
Why do suicide bombers wear two pairs of socks?

And if the answer is "in case they get a hole in one", I swear I'm scrambling my password and never coming back to Barbelith again.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:40 / 25.05.06
I'm not sure- apparently (according to the press, so probably not actually true) many Islamic terrorists wear extra sets of underwear when on "martyrdom missions". I think it's some kind of religious purity thing, maybe something to do with people touching their bodies once they've attained a state of grace? As I say, this all comes from reading the papers, so it's quite likely bollocks. It's something I've seen mentioned frequently, though.
 
 
Sax
13:44 / 25.05.06
Ah.
 
 
Sniv
13:49 / 25.05.06
Hmmm, just watch the recap repeat... the other housemates are making me feel quite sick, they're like horrible bullying children. Fair enough, Shahbaz was erratic and melodramatic and creepy, but the others are in full possesion of their faculties and are taking pleasure in extended, merciless bulling, not just revenge. Shahbaz may have been many things, but he wasn't a tormentor, just deeply annoying.

The more I see of them, the more I'm starting to detest them.
 
 
Evil Scientist
13:54 / 25.05.06
Now what you've done there is mixed up game shows with suicide bombings.

It's a common mistake, and also (coincidentally) why Telly Addicts ended so abrubtly.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:56 / 25.05.06
Ooh, Sax, not that I'm implying all journalists are liars, exactly... erm... (think quick, Stoatie)... I mean, most of them are, but apparently there's this one guy up north who is a bastion of integrity... he writes novels too, you know. Awfully talented chap.

I despise Shahbaz, and I admit it must have been hard NOT to turn on him like they did... but really, they lost the moral high-ground with some of that shit, like nicking his clothes. Pete seemed uncomfortable with it, but presumably (and probably wisely) decided not to take on an angry mob to defend someone who hadn't really done anything to deserve his charity.

Poor fucker shouldn't have been in there. As long as he was nowhere near me, he should have been ANYWHERE else.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:59 / 25.05.06
Dawn's been chucked out!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:02 / 25.05.06
Yeah, apparently she had prearranged with her sister that if it looked like she was being shown in a negative light she'd tell them she was sick (which was one of the eventualities which they'd agreed to tell her about).

I don't think she was being shown negatively, but had it been my own sister constantly being accused of stinking by Becks- er, Nikki- then I may have thought differently.
 
 
Smoothly
14:02 / 25.05.06
Bullet.
 
 
Sniv
14:02 / 25.05.06
I understand Pete's reasons for not going up against the rest of the house (although I suspect that if he had, they'd have listened to him), but I wish that just one housemate would have said "Hang on a sec, he wasn't bullying Bonner or Nikki just there, calm down" or something to that effect. it came to the point where Shahbaz was doing nothing at all and they were reacting like he'd just wanked in their cereal or something. They were like horrible little children, I could almost see them wearing school uniforms for a bit there...
 
 
Sax
14:03 / 25.05.06
(Stoatie - wasn't "Ah"-ing at your comments about journalists, but at the information re suicide bombers. All journalists are liars - everyone knows that.)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:09 / 25.05.06
What the fuck did "the people they pick they might pick the ones they don't pick... to cause amniosity" mean, Nikki?

WHAT THE HOT BUTTERED ELVIS ARE YOU ON ABOUT, YOU INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOON???
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
14:12 / 25.05.06
Maybe she means they want to make the environment of the Big Brother house more like that of the womb: Warm, pulsating, filled with a protective fluid.
 
 
Triplets
14:30 / 25.05.06
I would like to take a moment to welcome Stoatie.

Welcome.
 
 
Triplets
14:33 / 25.05.06
Come to this house, be one of us, come into this house, be one of us.

Come to this house, into this house.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:41 / 25.05.06
Gabba gabba hey.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
14:44 / 25.05.06
Don't I get a welcome? THATS IT IM LEAVING DONT TRY AND STOP ME
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
14:50 / 25.05.06
Someone namely me, has writen a song about Shehbaz. It's very good.
 
 
Spaniel
17:38 / 25.05.06
Nesh, on the subject of Nikki, I can totally get behind your fear of contamination diagnosis. In fact a few pages back I suggested as much.
I'm interested in whether you think she's exhibiting startlingly childish behaviour (at least by turns). I'm also wondering what you think of her teary fits, and what you make of the suggestion that she wasn't actually crying at all (just like a child throwing a grumpy fit).

As I've said upthread, it's not that I don't think Nikki hasn't experienced distress, it's that I think there's some dissonance between her behaviour, the reasons she gives for it, and the underlying psychological factors.

Oh, and I don't remember claiming that she's entirely without self-awareness - and if I did I take it back - I just think she's given me no reason to think that she's particularly sparky in that arena.
 
  

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