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Big Brother 2006

 
  

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Shrug
19:21 / 21.07.06
I am scared of them.
 
 
■
19:25 / 21.07.06
Thank fuck for that.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
19:26 / 21.07.06
WHAT'S THAT COMING OUT OF THE HOUSE?

IS IT A MONSTER? IS IT A MONSTER?
 
 
Ganesh
19:27 / 21.07.06
I have to say, I think Richard was out-of-line on the feminine pronoun thing.
Richard does seem to be losing it a little.


Purely from the viewpoint of reading this thread and what I know of both Housemates, I can see fair points on both sides. I suspect Richard's picked up on what is a very real discomfort, on Michael's part, with his sexuality, and is, in full rah-rah-glad-to-be-gay style, holding that discomfort up to the light and poking at its tender spots. I can remember, in my own younger babypoof days, meeting (it seemed to me) ultraconfident, ultracamp gay men and being utterly terrified of them. I was initially uncomfortable with the feminine pronouns but, after a little while, realised there was no malice meant, relaxed into it and opened up like a flower. I don't tend to use "she", etc. myself these days but I'm fine with people who do, and am much less uptight about being referred to in this way. In some ways, I think getting comfortable with overtly camp gay men (realising that being called "she" doesn't carry the sting it did in the playground) is a hardening/softening phase we have to go through. Life's too short to take one's masculinity that seriously.

So... although I can understand Michael's discomfort with the feminine stuff, I think a certain amount of his objection (as well as his insistence that he himself is not in the least camp, and his "I'm more than just my sexuality schtick) is rooted in at least a little self-loathing. I don't think it's a heinous thing that Richard's pushing his boundaries on this score - although I'm sure he's also taking some pleasure in needling Michael.
 
 
Ganesh
19:30 / 21.07.06
I know I keep saying "Oh dear", but... Richard has decided that Aisleyne is a full-blown "plastic", and was singing "I'm a Barbie girl!" in a mockingly high-piched voice, about her and Imogen, to Jayne. Does anyone know if Aisleyne has actually actively done anything to prompt this other than get on well with Imogen?

I think that's enough, as Dickie sees it, Imogen being the synthetic heart of the Axis of Plastic. He's never truly forgiven her for acting like gay was contagious through male-male contact.
 
 
Lama glama
19:38 / 21.07.06
Pete, like Nikki, is at his most entertaining when in the diary room. If only he was as confident and humorous outside the DR we'd get more gems like: "Your arse is like a loaf of bread and I want a sloiiice of it."

It was a little unsettling when Glyn almost orgasmed when he heard Big Brother speaking Welsh. Spiral's feigned intoxication in the same diary room conversation was dreadfully irritating. Spiral to go next?
 
 
Shrug
19:52 / 21.07.06
You know he won't just go away, Llama. He'll be on that person's show...Tubridy... and on radio and television. Best keep him in for as long as possible.
 
 
■
20:33 / 21.07.06
If they have to pair off into groups of "bezzies", I'd guess Glyn and Spiral could well be out next week. However, if Imogen teams up with Mr Bovine, it'll probably fall to a "get the boring bastards out" vote.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:36 / 21.07.06
All Richard seemed to manage to talk about when Jayne's name was announced was not that she was going, but that he had had to pack his suitcase again. Do I correctly remember him doing that before, during another time he got to stay? He doesn't really seem to feel much empathy for the people who lose to him, does he?

I am starting to like him less, to me he's appearing more and more self-concerned and almost over-confident. I think the housemates get like that when they survive a few evictions; it's a bit of a catch 22 - they get confident and believe the public love them and so the public start to dislike them for being over-confident.

Interesting what Jayne said about Michael inviting Richard into bed though, she was really rather good to listen to. I wonder if, yet again, we have only been shown the 'over-emphasised' Jayne, and in actuality she was an pleasant and amusing person to have around in the house. All the housemates seemed to think so, the only complaints were about the obvious things - the rule breaking and the burps.
 
 
haus of fraser
21:01 / 21.07.06
If bezzie mates go then its gonna be Richard and Suzie for sure both have been pretty low in opinion poles- now Nikki and Jane have gone its surely their time- but lets see if they get to pick their own best mate's first eh?
 
 
Lama glama
21:51 / 21.07.06
He'll be on that person's show...Tubridy... and on radio and television.

Urrrgh. He'll be on that dreadful teen show as well, The Café or whatever they call that abomination. Tubridy, as you say, is inevitable. My worst fear is that he'll get some sort of slot on a radio station like Today FM (or that station that Ray Shah got shuffled off to) or maybe even as a semi-recurring guest on the Gerry Ryan show! That would be wretched beyond belief, although I suspect Ryan's more than apparent disdain for the man would almost certainly negate the chances of such a role ever being granted to Spoiral.

Jayne's interview was tolerable, and I have to admit to liking the musical burp montage. I attribute that success to those nice editing people, rather than Jayne though. Was it me, or was Davina excessively gushing with Jayne?

As long as he doesn't get a platform to spout any of his opinions from, I'm more than happy.

So, pairings..

..if housemates choose who they want to be with we'll likely see:

Aisleyne and Jennie
Glyn and Spoiral
Mikey and Imogen
Suzie and Richard
Pete and Michael (those two are harder to pin down than the rest, but it's either going to be this, or Aisleyne/Pete or Michael/Aisleyne, Jennie/Pete).
 
 
Ganesh
09:37 / 22.07.06
All Richard seemed to manage to talk about when Jayne's name was announced was not that she was going, but that he had had to pack his suitcase again. Do I correctly remember him doing that before, during another time he got to stay? He doesn't really seem to feel much empathy for the people who lose to him, does he?

I'm not sure that that's a terribly fair criticism. It's the fourth time he's been up for eviction, and I think he's increasingly aware that the House hardly performs cartwheels of joy that he's staying. After Lea's eviction, the disappointment of many (most?) that she had gone and Richard stayed was palpable. I don't suppose that's a nice thing to experience - especially when the evicted party is, relatively speaking, an ally, and one therefore looks forward to another week of being nominated - and I suspect it's wearing Richard down more than he cares to admit.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:03 / 22.07.06
Yes Michael's head-in-hands, 'Oh my god it's the end of the world' moment, which Richard can't have missed, seemed to sum up the mood of the house in general, especially seeing as Mikey openly commiserated with the guru. If, as seems likely, Susie buddies up with Richard, then unless Spoiral goes fockin mental again, I can't see the two of them lasting past Friday.

Let's hope Richard goes down fighting, in a dignified way.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:29 / 22.07.06
On the other hand, if Glen pairs up with Jennie, and Aisleyne with Pete, that would leave Spoiral and the yogi bear looking fairly fockin vulnerable ...
 
 
Ganesh
10:31 / 22.07.06
Okay, I always wanted to come back to Wonderstarr's question about sexual harrassment. Smoothly's actually made most of my points for me (a threatened action, no matter how seriously it's taken, is not the same as an enacted action; comparing Richard/Mikey and Spoiral/Jennie isn't necessarily valid in a like-with-like sense) so I'll maybe concentrate on the latter post:

Um... if someone's going to try to intimidate someone, then isn't it quite reasonable (inevitable?) that the other person ends up with "fears"? Your comment above seems to suggest that Mikey would be at fault (fearful of gayness, ie. homophobic) rather than Richard, for deliberately trying to sexually intimidate and make someone else feel uncomfortable.

I don't think "fault" or responsibility is necessarily easy to apportion to one or other party in this interaction. We know (from BBBB) that Mikey scored highest out of all the Housemates in terms of rating his own appearance - self-regard - so it's perhaps not terribly surprising that, from relatively early on in the show, he was complaining of the lusty gay's gaze. I would also question the degree to which Mikey is truly intimidated or threatened by the perception that he's the focus of male attention as well as female. I'm suspicious that, given his high level of self-regard (re: his physical appearance) Mikey might well derive a little reassurance - ego-shoring - from the idea that he's attractive to men. He works part-time as a model, after all, so I'd be surprised if the situation (being looked at by gay men) is enormously alien to him.

(Of course, it might be difficult or risky for him to articulate this - and, given the need to come up with credible nomination reasons week after week, I'm-uncomfortable-with-him-staring covers a number of practical and psychological bases.)

I'm assuming we're talking about more than Richard staring at Mikey, then (although I think the longstanding staring-at-me complaint/comfort is the backdrop on which Mikey's other assertions arise): Mikey's reports that Richard has threatened to sexually assault him. Of course, I haven't seen or heard any of this myself, so I have no way of knowing whether Richard did indeed artlessly (as Smoothly put it) propose such a thing, in a way which Mikey found genuinely threatening. I'm highly suspicious of Mikey's account, for the reasons given above (essentially, I think reporting such statements along with his expressed disgust serve to illustrate for us that he's a) physically desirable, and b) resolutely heterosexual himself - as well as providing handy reasons for nominating Richard week after week). In particular, I'd want some clarification of the context of Richard's alleged threat and Mikey's reaction at the time.

I know he did describe himself as a sexual terrorist, and this is perhaps one of the few times we've seen it, and it sounds like a fun persona to unleash, but in a way it seems quite a nasty thing to do to someone: being aware of their boundaries and comfort zones, and deliberately invading them.

It depends, doesn't it? None of this happens in a sociocultural vacuum, and I'm not sure that comfort zones ought always to be accorded respect, particularly when they're circumscribed by the majority (white heterosexual males) around their fear of the Other. My aunt, for example, has told me she's uncomfortable with mentions of male-male intimacy; would it be "nasty" of me, then, to joke about taking her to a gay bar, if it causes her discomfort? Are all stated comfort zones to be accorded equal respect, or are some boundaries less reasonable than others?

Personally, I'd reiterate Smoothly's point about the difference between invading someone's boundaries verbally and invading their actual flesh, physically. Where threats are concerned, much surely depends on plausibility: based on her knowledge of my previous behaviour, my aunt can be reasonably certain that I am not going to drag her bodily into a gay bar against her will. Likewise, Mikey can rest reeeasonably securely that, from his behaviour to date, Dickie will not be pinning him down and anally raping him On National Television. Could Jennie be certain, from Spoiral's behaviour thus far, that (jokey) verbal boundary-pushing wouldn't map onto physical boundary-crossing?

I suppose what it comes down to is that there's a line between playful teasing and verbal harassment, and that gayness/straightness is perhaps secondary & incidental to this.

I'd disagree. I think all interactions take place within the context of both the BB House and British culture in general, and that the complex attitudes and power dynamic at play around issues of sexuality are pretty fundamental to how such a "line" might be negotiated in any given encounter. With Richard and Mikey, I don't think the distinction is a clear one at all, and I think personal and wider perceptions of straightness/gayness are integral to unpicking what's actually going on.
 
 
Ganesh
11:30 / 22.07.06
I'm also feeling the need to do a spot of Dickie-defending on the reported interactions with Michael - not just because I generally like Richard (which I do) but also because I think many of those interactions have specific meanings - or at least a different slant - within gay male culture and/or the gay 'scene'. One of the most interesting aspects of Big Brother, for me, is the opportunity it affords to observe the way groups form along or (more usually) across axes of sexuality. While we're used to token gay people among a greater heterosexual whole, or fictional 'gay dramas' like Queer As Folk, it's relatively unusual to see numbers of real gay people interacting over time with each other and with non-homosexual groupings.

Anyway,

Michael asked not to be called "she", and it was, in my view, somewhere between thoughtless and offensive for him to keep doing it.

As I've said upthread, I'm slightly limited in my sympathy for Michael here. Yes, on paper, he really does have a right not to be called "she" if he doesn't want to be called "she". To me, however, the fact that Michael's making a point of objecting to this is suggestive of a degree of insecurity around the intersection of gayness and masculinity, and I think Richard's picked up on this too. Where they're clashing is in their respective ways of handling this insecurity. Richard, having resolved the issue (can one be gay and a man?) to his own satisfaction genuinely wants, I believe, to help Michael resolve it too. Michael handles the issue by denying it exists, minimising his sexuality ("there's more to me", etc.), fearing/reviling 'camp' and, arguably, projecting a certain degree of negative material onto Richard.

Unsurprisingly, perhaps, I'm with Richard here in that I think Michael does have issues around his sexuality, and is managing those issues in ways which are, ultimately, going to make him unhappy. If Michael cannot accept that 'camp' - in himself and in others - is not a scary, masculinity-eroding force to be feared, he'll always have problems with (at least some) self-loathing. I think Richard, being comfortable in the role of mentor (which also fulfils his dependency needs), would've liked to have had a hand-on-shoulder chat about Michael's insecurities - and I don't think it's necessarily patronising of him to think he can help Michael with these - but, this not having happened, he's pushing Michael's boundaries on the feminine pronouns thing, which is symptomatic.

I also felt Mikey had a point countering Richard's assertion that he (Richard) and Michael should be able to talk, as gay men "on the same team" ~ I'm not sure if a shared sexual preference (or age, or ethnicity, or nationality) has ever guaranteed that people develop a bond in Big Brother.

No, nothing is a guarantee - but, among gay men, comparisons of common experiences (realising one's sexuality, 'co,ing out', etc.) often do lead to a degree of shared intimacy - more so than simply being the same age, nationality, etc., because the chances are that both parties have shared certain life experiences. Not always, but often. Richard be more aware of this than Mikey and, frankly, I think he's right to flag up the complete absence of this shared intimacy as unusual. I think the reason it hasn't happened is less to do with Richard's inflated expectations of gay-gay commonality than with Michael's slight fucked-upness about identifying as gay.

Richard's efforts to talk "reasonably" to Michael in the bedroom later were also pretty ludicrously weak ~ he picked up on one comment about Michael having asked others for advice, and then walled up, unwilling to hear any more, telling him to put dynamite up his arse and then calling him a queen (in his absence, admittedly). For all his claims that he's constantly offered to sit down calmly and chat, if this was evidence of his attitude then I do sympathise with Michael.

Didn't see this, obviously, so I can't comprehensively comment. I do think, though, that if I were in a Houseful of heterosexuals plus one much younger gay man who seemed a bit troubled around his sexuality, I suspect I'd feel a little hurt if he rebuffed my attempts to impart (what I, in my Great Therapist/Healer role, knew to be) my pearls of Gay Wisdom and instead went to the hets for advice. In this case, it's exacerbated by the fact that Richard (like me, to some extent) fulfils his own dependency needs by (ostensibly) addressing the psychological needs of others. He'd take the non-interest - either sexually or as mentor figure - of the one other gay-identifying male as rejection indeed. Probably why a spiteful element's creeping into his boundary-pushing.

And finally, I found it a little odd that Richard seems to present his spats with Michael as, I don't know, Bette Davis vs Joan Crawford bitching in Tinkerbell's boudoir. "Watch the glitter fly". Pete and Mikey seem far more glam and actually more feminine than Richard and Michael.

Not odd at all. It's standard on the gay 'scene' for this sort of colourful description to be bandied around, regardless of how "glam" or "feminine" people are perceived to be. Think of it, like the pronouns, as a sort of campified argot, maybe a modern evolution/bastardisation of polari.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:35 / 22.07.06
Thanks for these interesting responses, which I hope to discuss with you later
 
 
Cherielabombe
15:27 / 22.07.06
Well, they've paired up for the "Best Friends" task

Suzie and Imogen (backing the wrong horse again!)
Spoiral and Michael
Aisylene and Jennie
Glynn and Mikey (all lads together I guess)
and Pete and Richard

YAY! If these pairs go up for the double eviction next week (which at the moment, it's looking like they will), Richard *should* be safe for another week. Though I was *SO* hoping Mikey and Imogen would pair up so we could pick them both off in the same week. Ah well..
 
 
*
16:28 / 22.07.06
Well, in case there's any confusion, I prefer not to be called "she." I like to think when it happens and it's clearly either a mistake or a camp thing I'm a little more adult about it than it sounds from this thread like Michael's being, but if someone does it persistently after I asked them to stop, I tend to get bitey-bitey-in-a-not-nice-way. Mind you, my "insecurity" about being a gay man is pretty well documented.

I'm not all that sure that there's a tremendous difference, either. Non-trans gay men often have a painful history attached to being called "she," as do I. Non-trans gay men often have to work, against tremendous social opposition, to construct their masculinity in a way that makes sense to them, as do I. To have these efforts seemingly discounted by being called "she" persistently by someone in a similar situation would be painful to me, even if I understood it wasn't intended to be, and I expect Michael— cooped up with someone who is now doing this in a way that is clearly intended to be hurtful or at least annoying— is experiencing something similar to what I would be feeling.

Mind you, I still am not watching this, but you all are better fun than television.
 
 
haus of fraser
16:45 / 22.07.06
Suzie & Imogen i reckon then- or maybe Spoiral and Michael- pretty even bets in my mind- have any bookies put up odds yet?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:49 / 22.07.06
Suzie and Imogen (backing the wrong horse again!)
Spoiral and Michael
Aisylene and Jennie
Glynn and Mikey (all lads together I guess)
and Pete and Richard


It must be something to do with absent friends, I suppose. Pete couldn't hook up with Aisleyne because of Nikki, Jennie's got that bloke back home in the 'Pool, and, mainly, there's the spectre of Grace. Although how the two young tearaways expect to avoid the wrath of teh queen of evil by this point is anyone's guess.
 
 
Ganesh
17:38 / 22.07.06
I'm not all that sure that there's a tremendous difference, either. Non-trans gay men often have a painful history attached to being called "she," as do I. Non-trans gay men often have to work, against tremendous social opposition, to construct their masculinity in a way that makes sense to them, as do I. To have these efforts seemingly discounted by being called "she" persistently by someone in a similar situation would be painful to me, even if I understood it wasn't intended to be, and I expect Michael— cooped up with someone who is now doing this in a way that is clearly intended to be hurtful or at least annoying— is experiencing something similar to what I would be feeling.

I think the type of social opposition is different, in that non-trans gay men generally have not had to surmount physical obstacles and the introjected parental responses to their attempting, at an early age, to establish themselves as "he". Typically, it's later, in the school playground, that non-trans gay men first encounter "she" used in a consistent, intentionally hurtful way, when it's used specifically to 'other' them from the male peer group. I think that's why they take exception to the feminine pronoun when it's subsequently applied to them by camp gay men. That was certainly the case with me: although I remember a small amount of parental teasing over my perceived 'girliness', it's the peripubertal stuff from other males that made being called "she" an emotional hot-trigger. It also tapped into deeper feelings of shame and guilt.

It was important for me - and, from talking to other gay males, generally important - to recognise the distinction in context and intent. In the teen playground, "she" is used to exclude ("she's one of them"); used by flamboyant gay men, it's inclusive ("she's one of us"). Failure to understand this - or to accept that one's masculinity is not so fragile that it can be threatened by the harmless habit of one's camper fellows - is, to my mind, a sign of a certain sort of social/psychological immaturity. Taken in concert with some of Michael's other peccadilloes (keenness to distance himself from 'camp' or even recognise it in himself, aversion to talking about the common experiences of homosexuality, ambivalence), I think it's symptomatic of a greater discomfort with who he is. Whether or not Richard's right to poke and prod at that discomfort is up for grabs. I don't think he's motivated purely by malice, however. I think he also realises, on some level, that there's a problem there and, in touchy-feely it's-good-to-talk not-terribly-British style, he knows instinctively that it's a problem that will not be helped by denial. And he wants to help, because helping makes Richard feel good.

So... I'm not sure that Michael's feelings would map exactly onto yours, Entity, as the specifics of his struggle are likely to differ from yours.
 
 
Ganesh
18:07 / 22.07.06
Suzie and Imogen (backing the wrong horse again!)
Spoiral and Michael
Aisylene and Jennie
Glynn and Mikey (all lads together I guess)
and Pete and Richard


I am relieved. Dickie needs a week off.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:38 / 22.07.06
Yes and I take it all back about Dickie. He was utterly lovely to Jayne at the eviction in the footage I saw tonight, the footage of the eviction from the house's point of view. He was also fascinating in the diary room, assessing how perhaps the plastics will start to be nice to him now he is still in.

Michael is finding life in the house very difficult and Dickie isn't helping, with his plans to 'camp things up a bit' to 'upset Michael' and 'some others'. Michael genuinely seems to feel that he is coming across 'second-rate' to his normal self, he thinks he is much less nice to people than he normally would be. If he does feel like that then Dickie winding him up must be intensely frustrating.

I can't get my head around Dickie. One minute he's Mr Self-aware, and then when Susie says she doesn't row with anyone, doesn't have a problem with anyone, he says, 'me too'.
 
 
*
03:30 / 23.07.06
I think he also realises, on some level, that there's a problem there and, in touchy-feely it's-good-to-talk not-terribly-British style, he knows instinctively that it's a problem that will not be helped by denial. And he wants to help, because helping makes Richard feel good.

You're right about Michael's experience of this situation not being the same as mine would be; I'm overidentifying with the situation (as opposed to with the person). But I'm curious— do you think this prodding is coming from the same place in Richard as his general efforts to "help" various people have been? If that's even a question that makes sense?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:14 / 23.07.06
Discussing Richard's sexual terrorist "threats" towards Mikey, we do have the problem that not only did you, Ganesh, not see it at all, but none of us in the UK saw anything except Mikey's Diary Room report of it.

As I said upthread, there are clearly some things happening in the house that HMs are very aware of and that I, having watched almost all highlight shows but very little live feed, have never seen (eg. Richard apparently being unable to have a conversation without injecting innuendo) but you wonder whether Richard's offer to creep into Mikey's bed and put a cock up his arse wouldn't have been broadcast on the highlights: we were shown similar moments of vivid (jokey) threat such as his promise to rip Jayne's lungs out and shove them down her throat (or arse? I don't remember) and his statement that Michael could stick dynamite up his arse.

So it's possible that Mikey's report was exaggerated or just invented.



It depends, doesn't it? None of this happens in a sociocultural vacuum, and I'm not sure that comfort zones ought always to be accorded respect, particularly when they're circumscribed by the majority (white heterosexual males) around their fear of the Other. My aunt, for example, has told me she's uncomfortable with mentions of male-male intimacy; would it be "nasty" of me, then, to joke about taking her to a gay bar, if it causes her discomfort? Are all stated comfort zones to be accorded equal respect, or are some boundaries less reasonable than others?

I'm not sure about this, really. I see your point (that her attitude is unfortunate, and that you probably feel uncomfortable and unhappy about her discomfort?) but would you want to cause a family member discomfort, unless you thought it served a more important purpose (making her more comfortable with gayness, or challenging her boundaries... is she likely to feel more OK about male/male intimacy because of your teasing, or might she wall up and become defensive/antagonistic about it?)

It is a fair argument that if a straight person makes it clear to a gay one (or perhaps to anyone who doesn't share their views) that they feel uncomfortable with male/male intimacy, they're making the second person feel uncomfortable in turn, and so perhaps deserve the same treatment. As I suggested in the previous para, I don't know this response is likely to sway their attitudes, but I can see how it would seem justified.

Challenging homophobia in a teasing way is one thing, though, but as I think I noted, I would get bored and/or uncomfortable with someone making sexual remarks all the time, whether that person was male or female, straight or gay. If they thought it was their remit to keep pushing my boundaries and crossing my lines, after I'd made it clear where those lines were, I wouldn't appreciate it. Maybe me explaining that I wasn't happy with constant sexual banter would constitute oppressing or trying to contain and repress them, in a way, but obviously if I were in that situation I'd be biased towards my own position.



Where threats are concerned, much surely depends on plausibility: based on her knowledge of my previous behaviour, my aunt can be reasonably certain that I am not going to drag her bodily into a gay bar against her will. Likewise, Mikey can rest reeeasonably securely that, from his behaviour to date, Dickie will not be pinning him down and anally raping him On National Television. Could Jennie be certain, from Spoiral's behaviour thus far, that (jokey) verbal boundary-pushing wouldn't map onto physical boundary-crossing?

Good point: I don't know if Richard has invaded Mikey's personal comfort zones in a physical way, at all. Again, if he had (ie. grabbing his arse all the time, climbing into bed with him, pushing up against him naked) I expect we would have seen it.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:22 / 23.07.06
And finally, I found it a little odd that Richard seems to present his spats with Michael as, I don't know, Bette Davis vs Joan Crawford bitching in Tinkerbell's boudoir. "Watch the glitter fly". Pete and Mikey seem far more glam and actually more feminine than Richard and Michael.

Not odd at all. It's standard on the gay 'scene' for this sort of colourful description to be bandied around, regardless of how "glam" or "feminine" people are perceived to be. Think of it, like the pronouns, as a sort of campified argot, maybe a modern evolution/bastardisation of polari.


I'm familiar with that, but what I meant here was that Richard seems to see his interactions as some kind of grand catfight, all razzle-dazzle, a glitzy theatrical spectacle for an audience to relish, rather than a balding guy in a vest lying on a grubby bed in a messy dorm-room, arguing with a starey lunatic who's doing handstands and stroking a stuffed cat.

But perhaps he's being a bit ironic or has just got into the habit of using that kind of "colourful description".
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:31 / 23.07.06
I JUST CAME BACK FROM A LOVELY HOLIDAY AND SPOIRAL'S FUCKING RAPPING AGAIN!!!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:45 / 24.07.06
Very interesting exchange on the live feed just now. Aisleyne, Jennie and Spoiral were in the garden, talking about Pete. This is a flawed transcript, but it went something like;

AISLEYNE: See Pete is really creative, and he needs to express himself. You can see him getting frustrated, down, if he can't draw, make music, whatever. A lot of creative people are like that, they need a bit of time alone to do their thing, and it must be hard if they can't have that.

JENNIE: Yeah, exactly. Pete has been, y'know, quite quiet lately. You can see him withdrawing from the conversation, like, he's said what he thinks, but there's only so far he can go with words. But then he got the chance to make some music tonight, and suddenly, y'know, he's up, he's happy ... Yeah, I know what you mean.

Pause

SPIRAL: See now I'm like that, wit my mewsic ... My decks, my rappin' ... I'll tell yer what, I'm fockin' addicted to mewsic ...

JENNIE: Mm.

AISLEYNE: Yeah.

As far as I can tell, Jennie and Aisleyne both went to bed then, while an inspired Spiral (presumably stone cold sober at this point,) ragga-free-styled away into the darkness.

Here is the final version of what he came up with after twenty-odd minutes of ranting away at Bunnycam, which I write down for you now, Barbelith, at peril of my immortal soul;

'Do you want a compliment-ment-ment?
I'll give you a compliment-ment-ment
It's better than an argument, for sure!

Age is only a num-ber, yeah, yeah
So feel my lips and don't wonder, no, no

A sexy ass is (garbled) yeah, yeah
It's time to let off some steam

D'you know what I mean?
Lean!

Letal choon!'


It will be repeated on tomorrow's highlights, and probably for years to come, but I suppose what Channel 4's going to show is an at best bowdlerised inisight into the heart of the creative process, whereas tonight, I felt like I was at the fockin' source.

Payce!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:50 / 24.07.06
(Spiral is wired too tight for the Big Brother house ... Probably wired too tight for Dublin.)
 
 
miss wonderstarr
06:57 / 24.07.06
Letal choon!

First time I've heard this but it's already a meme in my head.
 
 
Cherielabombe
08:11 / 24.07.06
Awww... How cute are Pete and Richard as best friends?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:31 / 24.07.06
With regard to noinations, do we know if the housemates still get two votes each this week, or just two votes per pair?

This new twist could throw up some shocking dilemnas for the British public - I'd assumed that all the pairs would be up for eviction, but no, so we could conceivably be forced to choose between Pete & Richard and Aisleyne & Jennie! Let's hope that Spiral & Michael are one of the pairs on offer instead.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:33 / 24.07.06
Oh, someone's just told me it's two votes per pair and they will have to agree...
 
 
Jub
10:07 / 24.07.06
Hm. I'm not sure how workable that is. I mean isn't that discussing nominations. Where did you get that from Flyboy?

Am loving the friends pair twist. Very good BB!
 
  

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