BARBELITH underground
 

Subcultural engagement for the 21st Century...
Barbelith is a new kind of community (find out more)...
You can login or register.


Big Brother 2006

 
  

Page: 1 ... 109110111112113(114)115116117118119... 130

 
 
Mourne Kransky
11:54 / 04.08.06
If it results in Nikki returning to the house, I could live with it, but it does reek of the endgame desperation of boringmost BB4.

If they're going to use used housemates to entertain us, I could get hours of pleasure from watching Michael and Spiral roasting on a spit. With flames and iron contraption but no metaphor.
 
 
Evil Scientist
12:26 / 04.08.06
Grace + catapult + side of a mountain = Happy Scientist.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:42 / 04.08.06
I think it would be an interesting twist if Aisleyne was sent back into the secret house this week, so she'd have another chance to bond with Lea, Nikki, Grace, Spiral, Jayne and possibly Jonathan.

Although it's just occurred that if this means Jayne's going to be back on TV, it's an unforgivable move.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:14 / 04.08.06
They tried this move in "Boring" BB3 (Year of Cameron), when Jon Tickle - most annoying but also most watchable housemate, was voted out by his detractors and promptly voted back in by his admirers when Endemol realised that the second he left, the show went into a flat spin of unwatchable tediousness.

However, it didn't work because in the interim he had effectively been castrated, as entertainment, in two ways.

1) The usual moratorium on talking about the outside world meant that he had loads to tell the others, but wasn't allowed to. Being a man familiar with the rulebook and unwilling to get booted out again, he was as forthcoming as a Trappist in a sulk, and about as watchable.

2) His head had grown about eight sizes bigger since he'd come out of the house and seen how popular he was. As with Glyn, much of his appeal was based on the "clueless sweet geek" factor, which depended in a large part on the natural humility imposed by his knowing that he wasn't a popular man (he was repeatedly nominated by the housemates and kept in by the public, Dickie stylee).

I think if that Nikki comes back, she'll have been irredeemably spoiled by the limelight. Her underlying insecurity and unintentional hilarity were, IMO, the main things that made her mad princess act on the whole slightly more charming than it was infuriating.

Bringing a housemate back = pushing the red button: even in cases of dire emergency, don't do it. Send in an elephant or something. Make them all play Big Brother's Big Blitz, I don't care; but don't bring back the "dead". They've done it before, and it sucks.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
15:56 / 04.08.06
Hmm. Didn't really see series 3 or 4, but if Nikki arrives back in with an ego swollen to monstrous propotions by her appearances in Nuts mag etc, there to lay down the law to the rest of the house because she knows what it's like on the outside!!! it might be fairly entertaining, albeit on a short term basis.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:08 / 04.08.06
Aaaaand there goes Mikey. Who shall teach Glyn the way to pool berds now, I wonder?
 
 
penitentvandal
19:36 / 04.08.06
Presumably the re-invited housemate can't win the money, though? That's not fair on the other evictees or, indeed, people who've not been evicted yet?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:54 / 04.08.06
Send in an elephant or something.

That would be ACE. They could do a literal "elephant in the room" task. They have to live with an elephant for a week, and anyone who mentions it or acknowledges it in any way gets the boot instantly.

Actually, that could be a whole new show...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:59 / 04.08.06
Although, thinking about it, they'd have to be able to rant about it in the Diary Room. Then go out, straightfaced, and pretend not to notice it all over again.

I'm watching this programme IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, and you fuckers have no idea what you're missing.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:05 / 04.08.06
Aaaand Suzie.
 
 
Shrug
20:34 / 04.08.06
This is all quite excellent!

As far as house relations go, who would cause the most ructions/and/or/excitment?

Grace?
Michael?
Nikki?
Sam?
Mikey?
Lea?
Susie?
Spiral?

Oh, and legal proceedings wrt Bonnie and Sezer?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:37 / 04.08.06
Sezer, I believe, has been involved in another alleged date-rape incident. Bonnie, I have no idea.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:37 / 04.08.06
Yes, what on earth would that be? Endemol sueing them for being utterly dull?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
20:37 / 04.08.06
How is it possible that evicted housemates are eligible to win? I'm sure that wasn't the case with Tickle. There seems something unethical about it, re. GBP money paid to vote them out. I got the sense that the big deal about this week's vote going to "charity" (which?) might be meant to offset any complaints along those lines.
 
 
Ganesh
20:59 / 04.08.06
I suspect Bonneh's involved in some sort of legal challenge under the Trades Descriptions Act. It's claimed that she is neither "sexeh" nor "funneh" nor "everyfing" nor "everyfing".
 
 
miss wonderstarr
21:14 / 04.08.06
There's also her claim: "I deal with boredom by getting naked and terrorising it up!"

Further:

"Leaving The House/The Eviction Process
Housemates can leave the House in three ways:

They may be evicted, they can leave of their own free will (and may do so at any time) or in exceptional circumstances they may be asked to leave by Big Brother.

Once a housemate leaves they forfeit any claim to the prize money."

It may be contested that "Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time." However, check the BB site.

*


There are 14 "rules", of which this is the fourteenth. They all concern HM's behaviour in the house:

"1) There is no contact with the outside world.

2) Housemates are filmed 24 hours a day and must wear personal microphones at all times.

3) The Diary Room is the only place in the House where Big Brother will acknowledge housemates individually.

4) Visits to the Diary Room are compulsory.

5) Nominations are compulsory.

6) Housemates must give frank and honest reasons for nominations.

7) It is not permitted to discuss nominations, or try to influence anyone else's nominations.

8) It is not permitted to discuss details of how they'd spend the prize money (if they were to win).

9) Eviction is decided by public vote.

10) All tasks and challenges are compulsory.

11) Housemates must not act violently towards any other housemate.

12) Housemates are free to leave the House at any time.

13) If any housemate breaks the rules they may be asked to leave the House."


These are the "rules" subject to change at any time.

The detail about evicted HMs being ineligible for the prize money is not part of those rules-subject-to-change.

It comes under "Leaving The House/The Eviction Process", which isn't even part of "Other House Rules", but another section entirely. Hence, I don't see how it's covered by the notorious get-out clause.


The only possible loophole would be this last phrase, "REMEMBER: Big Brother reserves the right to change the frequency, times and details of nominations at any time."

But that doesn't mention any possibility of changes to eviction status, either ~ ie. the notion that once evicted with public money, a HM can re-enter and win the prize.

I'm not about to join the DS rage-against-OFCOM campaign, as sensibly I've never voted. But I think they're breaking their terms.
 
 
The Falcon
22:07 / 04.08.06
Hum, the thought of ever seeing Grace's twisted-up, nasty visage on my teevee screen on a regular - tonight was quite enough, thanks - is causing me mucho distress. I don't really like the four thing, because I pretty much roundly detest every evictee bar Nikki, (and almost every evictee before her ever - I'm capricious like that,) who's a shoo-in to a) go in The House Next Door and then b) be selected by housemates to return, I'd think.

Hmm, well Pete'd select her, Ais likely wouldn't (Michael?) and it really depends if Lea/Susie (hahaha, what a monster of banality she really is) or Mikey are there for Richard and Imogen (behb,) respectively. Oh God, if Mikey's there Glynn'd probably want him back too. Jennie, fuck knows. Not Nikki, also, given the solid antipathy she received from her.

Really, shouldn't poor, disenfranchised Jonathan get another shot, too? Feel right sorry for him - could quite possibly count on Ash and Jennie to back him.
 
 
Shrug
22:10 / 04.08.06
Wait! The former housemates also have to be selected by the current housemates as well as a public vote?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:26 / 04.08.06
This has seemed a very unusual week in Big Brother, in that the situation is so unclear. As far as I could make out, the nominated HMs weren't announced on the normal day ~ HMs were told when BB returned from holiday. The double eviction was announced on BBLB yesterday. The evictee going back in was announced today. The situation with the House Next Door and the evictee re-entering on Tuesday ~ and then going back into the House? on what terms, on whose vote? ~ still seems veiled in confusion.

One thing I'd love to see is Endemol's plan for this year's Big Brother, from the start, just so I could see how much of this was planned in advance, and how much is (as it seems) desperate manoeuvres at the last minute.
 
 
The Falcon
22:40 / 04.08.06
Not so, miss w!

The C4 site confirms: evictees will be returning for a special live show hosted by Davina McCall on Tuesday 8 August. That night, the FOUR ex-housemates receiving the most votes will move into the House Next Door.

But that's not all ... three days later, on Friday 11 August, straight after the main eviction, the housemates in the main House will have to choose just ONE of the evicted housemates to re-join them in the main house.


I didn't just make it up.
 
 
Ganesh
22:41 / 04.08.06
A whole loooad of it seems invented on the hoof. There really does seem to have been an exponential increase in gimmickry this year, which bothers me but doesn't bother me as much as the near-enough abandonment of any Inside/Outside barrier. The regular (re)insertion into the House of people who've been watching the others on television progressively erodes any sense of hermetic hierarchy.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:53 / 04.08.06
But Falconator, didn't that page go up tonight? When I talked about things being made up as they went along, I didn't mean like impro! I was wondering if, for instance, this whole plan was devised a week ago, or if it was in place from, say, two months back, or the very start ~ or from when they realised Nikki was one of this year's semi-celebrity hyper-performers and that her absence dampened the house dynamic.
 
 
The Falcon
23:07 / 04.08.06
Oh, no, I'd not disagree with that impression, nor Ganesh's point about hierarchy-breaking; I'm not a particularly rulebound kinda guy, but it absolutely grated me when Jayne would allude that or outright state she was 'privilege to outside information'.

I was really responding to: The situation with the House Next Door and the evictee re-entering on Tuesday ~ and then going back into the House? on what terms, on whose vote? ~ still seems veiled in confusion.

Which is clarified if you look at the website, as I fortunately had earlier this evening. Is all. It reeks a little of desperation, certainly, but if it gets the little princess back up in there, I think we'll all thank Channel 4 for it in the end.
 
 
Ganesh
23:09 / 04.08.06
I just can't really be arsed with the 'four into the House Next Door' thing. I'd rather we just cut out the middle man and voted our favourite (Nikki) back in.

-- Ganesh --
 
 
miss wonderstarr
23:43 / 04.08.06
Yes, thanks Falconator. You're right, that did clear it up.

Something does rile me a lot about Nikki being rightfully voted out, then put back in and having a strong chance of winning. It's like if you voted out J. Major (I know this is an old skool example that younger readers may not identify with) and then three weeks later, he was given another shot at winning the General Election. It should all be done and dusted. The decision was made. The bets should be off. It just feels shoddy; not a good kind of "twist".
 
 
miss wonderstarr
23:44 / 04.08.06
~ mw ~

... from Alternative 66
 
 
Ganesh
23:47 / 04.08.06
I know whatcha mean. I suspect I'd be more pissed off about it, though, if I didn't think the whole endgame was something of a foregone conclusion. *koffPeteWANKERS*

-- Ganesh --
 
 
penitentvandal
09:24 / 05.08.06
Really, shouldn't poor, disenfranchised Jonathan get another shot, too?

Yeah, Jonathan should be a shoe-in: he never got a chance to even get into the main house, he wasn't evicted by the GBP but instead got traded off for Spoiral in the Milgram-esque Aisleyne Second House Mindfuck; and does he get a chance to go back in? No! But Spoiral, Taleban representative for Finglas, Dublin, gets a chance to go back in? Jayne, the Farting Borgia, gets a shot? Grace? Grace?GRACE?!?!?!

Davina screwed Jonathan!
 
 
Peach Pie
11:02 / 05.08.06
notice the spoilt one was initially far down the camera line, but pushed her way to the premier spot for the actual vote.
 
 
Sniv
12:54 / 05.08.06
Ah, but did she push or was she pulled up there? I reckon the producers might have had something to do about that.

Did anyone else catch Jeannie's suggestive lollipop sucking with Pete last night on the live stream? Yum, that was easily the hottest thing I've seen on this years BB. That's what we need, more erotic foodstuffs on late night telly. Jeannie to win!
 
 
Shrug
13:53 / 05.08.06
Really, shouldn't poor, disenfranchised Jonathan get another shot, too?

Hmm, yeah, but the re-introduction of Jonathan could prove to be disastrous given that this is just a cynical ploy to get Nikki back into the house! And even though he might succeed on the basis of a sympathy vote (given his terribly unfair booting) he is, of course, in comparison to Nikki, DULL.

I'd like to see, as before with the Big Brother Bedsit, (only in reverse) those in the main house watching via monitor the antics of those four voted in on Tuesday (in a microcosm of the Big Brother experience).
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:56 / 05.08.06
I've gotta say, now matter how much I may dislike many people on the show, waiting just prior to eviction and hearing the crowd outside looks like a REALLY unpleasant thing to have to do.
 
 
The Falcon
20:09 / 05.08.06
Glynn: "No-one desrves to be booed. Well, some people do. If you had Myra Hindley in here..."

Classic.

Also enjoying very much Ais' post-eviction party chat about Sezer, 'he wishes he was a little bit taller...' and Grace, 'I'll throw a glass of water on her when I see her.'
 
 
Lama glama
20:45 / 05.08.06
Just back from a week sans Big Brother and all of these twists and turns are sounding interesting. Nikki's a dead cert to be one of the four returning housemates. I'd like to see Michael return too, just to see Richard spar verbally with him again. Housemates that I emphatically do not want to see are Jayne, Spiral or the Gracist.

Wouldn't it be novel if Jennie's secret was her desire to engage in acts of bestiality?

Of course, it's probably going to be something along the lines that she thinks Pete is cute.
 
 
Shrug
21:04 / 05.08.06
Glynn: "No-one desrves to be booed. Well, some people do. If you had Myra Hindley in here..."

Even more bizzare was his mention of panto villain Anne Robinson in the same breath.
 
  

Page: 1 ... 109110111112113(114)115116117118119... 130

 
  
Add Your Reply