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Spatula Clarke
15:51 / 27.09.04
It's "all the best with writing the script." Although your version is much more apt for this thread, Whisky.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:04 / 27.09.04
After his limerick dabbling,
Jade fell to undignified babbling,
His obsession so heinous
With Tannhauser's anus,
Would hurt less if it weren't for the scrabbling


You said quickly, I pointed out that it was a very slow quick, is all. Plus, of course, that by the time you managed to apologise for calling me an arse you had called me a cunt, for which you do not not not apologise not not stampy stampy scream. So...

I can point out the other self-deceptions and hypocrisies if you like: most obviously the idea a) that I should have known in the first place that a bit of light japery would make you piss tea-temperature blood and b) that, having been both insulted and then bored rigid by your lengthy and tedious disquisition on yourself, I was under any obligation to respond in a manner that you deemed acceptable, which again I would have to work out with telepathy. I felt that the main value to be found in your PM was to provide amusement to the board by demonstrating how very taken you are with yourself. I hold that to remain true. You did not ask a question - most of your PM was made up of you talking about yourself. Your response to my request for clarity on which question you meant, since you did not ask one, was at best cryptic and at worst fuckwitted. I requested clarification of this pointless posing, and you totally lost your shit. Again.

Since I did not mention you subsequent to the light jape that you decided to respond to three days later with an abusive post (lightning. wit), thus resurrecting the whole thing), it seems odd that you got so upset *while I was abiding by your demand*, pompous and cretinous though it was. What a funny little chap you are.

Otherwise: Gaimbit: sorry dude, but she's right - you sound misogynist. Doesn't mean you are misogynist, but you do sound it. Hysteria is a common accusation against women to dismiss what they are saying as not fit for the sphere of manly discourse. Do you know what it means?

And Dirk is of course saying "all the best with escaping the crypt". Or, more precisely, the tumulus or burial mound.



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Tryphena Absent
16:23 / 27.09.04
accusations of misogyny from hysterical suffragists worry me not a bit and tickle me quite a lot.

Yes clearly that's why it's okay to call a normal sized girl fat (would you really aim that at a man? Would you assume that it would be an insult in quite the same way? That is misogyny) and ask flyboy, not the person who really dug in to you (that would be me), but flyboy if he set me on you. And now instead of a normal, angry woman who doesn't want a man to speak for her and is irate because someone assumed a man did, I am a hysterical suffragist?

I'm not hysterical but I am a feminist. I'm not sitting here and taking this bullshit. You haven't bothered to excuse yourself for a comment that was originally totally out of order and in fact you've made it worse and worse by treating me like some mindless dolt. Well I'm not giving up, I'm not mindless, I'm not hopeless and I still think you're an appalling misogynist because you've done nothing to dissuade me of the fact. Actually you've made it worse. You think trying to beat me down with 'hysterical suffragist' comments is going to shut me up? Welcome to 2004, we're not little women anymore and accusations of hysteria just scream even more misogyny or did you miss that little bit of history where every woman who asked for the right to vote was accused of hysteria?

See, your arguments don't put you in a favourable light gambit. Just keep digging your masculine hole. Eventually you're going to make the other females come out to kick you and I'm small enough to admit I'm going to enjoy it.
 
 
deja_vroom
16:26 / 27.09.04
You said quickly, I pointed out that it was a very slow quick, is all.

"That is all", really, and is all that it is - not important to the discussion. Simple, no?

a) that I should have known in the first place that a bit of light japery would make you piss tea-temperature blood

You have no obligation to know that. However, adults are known to adapt to new situations - trust me on that. This is really simple, and I already talked about this earlier. If there were the least bit of willingess to deal with me on the same level, we would have figured this out rather quickly (in your immediate reply, I'd dare say. As it is, well you just reassessed how much of a stubborn idiot you are (I just got a PM who's just a variant of Haus' first reply to me - predictable and as diverting as usual. Tsch.)

b) that, having been both insulted and then bored rigid by your lengthy and tedious disquisition on yourself, I was under any obligation to respond in a manner that you deemed acceptable

Oh, so in order to proceed in an acceptable, rational, adult way(sorry for insisting on that one, but your behaviour reeks of kindergarten sandbox from a distance), you cannot get bored? Ooh, that's new, sort of. Also quite feeble, as an argument.

Haus, you're clearly not gonna say what I want you to say because you can afford yourself that luxury; you'll just dance and limerick around. I tried to talk to you via PM, didn't work out; so I thought I might as well do as you requested, and posted a nice pic of myself. As far as I'm interested, that's enough.
 
 
deja_vroom
16:30 / 27.09.04
Oh, so in order to proceed in an acceptable, rational adult way*

As for the limericks: We're not really talking about limericks. We're talking about you being an idiot. Then we did it in rhyme. But we're talking pedantry, not poetry.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:35 / 27.09.04
It certainly looks like enough. Your dignified silence has pretty much crushed me. Can we have the rest of the silent PMs, too?

There are very few things that seem scarier,
Or make Jade more pugnacious and lairier,
Than to mention his name,
Without subsequent shame.
Oh, thank God Brazil's not Self-awaria
.
 
 
charrellz
16:37 / 27.09.04
A thread of Rage pics
Leading to so much bitching,
I love Barbelith.

I prefer the ancient art of haiku.

I just reread the whole thread, and once the headache subsided, I realized I'm in love with atleast half the people posting here.
 
 
Bear
16:39 / 27.09.04
This is turning into chaos, who's refing this Earl Hebner?

Stop!
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
16:59 / 27.09.04
Gaimbit: sorry dude, but she's right - you sound misogynist.

Seriously? I didn't think so. I thought Anna made (in a much more sarcastic manner than was required to get the point across) a bigger deal out of an only relatively poor choice of words in a cheap bid to garner support after she herself inserted the "insulting" gender roles. "Oh, so the man sets the woman on someone, huh? It's got to be like that, huh? A man leading a woman around?" Jesus. Calm the fuck down. I believe Gaimbit was merely opposed to the idea of anyone setting anyone on him rather than arguing with him directly. He made a poor choice of words. It happens. Be the bigger man (ha!*).


But then, I've been called misogynistic too, so who knows what my two cents is worth. Christ, you make one comment on how much you enjoy seeing pretty girls get fucked up and vomit everywhere at parties, and suddenly everyone has an opinion...**

Wow. Reading this thread makes me kinda aggressive. I'm gonna go smoke some pot and chill out a bit.***




*get it?
**yes, that's sarcasm.
***Just 'cause I like asteriks!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:00 / 27.09.04
You said quickly, I pointed out that it was a very slow quick, is all.

"That is all", really, and is all that it is - not important to the discussion. Simple, no?


It is a handy demonstrator of your self-delusion. Like apologising for having called me an arse (utterly without provocation, after reading an entirely non-malicious gag about the one thing, apart from your uncanny ability to spot transsexuals, that anybody here knows about you - that you posted shitloads of photographs of yourself to a thread originally about feeling self-conscious about how you look in photographs) only after having first called me a cunt, and somehow imagining that that apology gives you the moral high ground. What should I apologise for? Not realising the extent of your vanity? Not realising that when you insult me by PM you do so in a totally forgiveable and, hey, lovable way? Not showing sufficient penitence for havng done nothing wrong? Cremaster.

Shooting reel after reel of guess whom,
Jade returns to his tumulus tomb.
This burial-mound
Fastness under the ground
Makes a perfect developing room.
 
 
Sekhmet
17:01 / 27.09.04
Is it time now for me to pick a fight with Qualyn for trying to shove his citrophobia off on me again? Cuz I'm NOT scared of lemons. Nossir! Not! Scared! Of the Lemmmoooonnnnz!

I am, however, terribly terribly frightened of this thread. I believe Rage must be an incarnation of Eris herself for her appearance to precipitated all this fallout. Like poking a stick in a fire-ant mound (or is it mount?)... I haven't seen this much fighting on Barbelith in... oh, at least a day or two...
 
 
ibis the being
17:04 / 27.09.04
This may betray me as the biggest dork on the board, but I thought I'd stick in a little expository info -

Etymology: New Latin, from English hysteric, adjective, from Latin hystericus, from Greek hysterikos, from hystera womb; from the Greek notion that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus.

And yet I'm not at all certain that wasn't just deliberate (and dorky) baiting. After all - suffragist??
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:13 / 27.09.04


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deja_vroom
17:14 / 27.09.04
Given your arguments, I think we could keep this going for quite some more time - but as I said earlier, I value my time and patience. As that fan-favorite character from the Invisibles said: "The truth seems to speak the language of symbolism and poetry":

Haus never came back from that climb
So I'm gonna stop wasting my time.
For when Haus gets bored
He becomes nothing more
Than an idiot savant who can rhyme
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:22 / 27.09.04
Sir Jade, that most knightly young man,
Broke his lance on the questing beast Tann,
He cried out "you couch crime
in dissembling rhyme!"
"Likewise, dear," he replied, "but I scan."
 
 
deja_vroom
17:22 / 27.09.04
for having called me an arse (utterly without provocation, after reading an entirely non-malicious gag

Non malicious, was it? Yeah, sure.

and somehow imagining that that apology gives you the moral high ground.

Nice inversion. But - I apologized of course for my whole attitude in that PM; Not to get a moral high-ground - that's how *you* play, Haus - but because I could do nothing more than admit that I had acted as a twat, since my words were written there, and there was nothing I could do about the fact that I had slipped up, and I couldn't continue the discussion (remember when you called me hypocrite?) until I assumed my mistake. I felt *I* had no justifiable reasons to act like that; as for the "cunt", which followed it - well, I think I had all the reasons.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
17:23 / 27.09.04
I am, however, terribly terribly frightened of this thread. I believe Rage must be an incarnation of Eris herself for her appearance to precipitated all this fallout. Like poking a stick in a fire-ant mound (or is it mount?)... I haven't seen this much fighting on Barbelith in... oh, at least a day or two...

Yeah, it's great, innit? I'm totally getting into it.
 
 
w1rebaby
17:26 / 27.09.04
Come on people. Happy thoughts.

 
 
deja_vroom
17:26 / 27.09.04
Oh, and as for the PM: It's you who keep knocking...
 
 
deja_vroom
17:27 / 27.09.04
(I think we already established *how good* you are at rhyming, didn't we, Haus? And at what price, too...)
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:31 / 27.09.04
I'm giving up posting to this thread, because we could go on like this forever.

Oh, wait. I missed a chance to comment on one of the posts earlier. I'll just put that right. And stick a couple of one-liners up for good measure.

Jesus, people. I'm unemployed, what's your excuse?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:33 / 27.09.04
So, your entire PM was twattish in its attitude, and yet you upbraid me for treating it as such, and believe that my responses to an avowedly twattish PM then justified you calling me a cunt *without any intervening activity*?

Without you apologising for having gotten off on the wrong foot, say, and tried to explain in a non-twattish way why you were so upset, which, given the basically harmless nature of the original comment, remains opaque to me, say? Again, you're a hypocrite, and not a very able one.

"*This* house was a bargain," laughed Jade,
"Why, look at the profit I've made!"
All the way to the bank,
As the foundations sank
Through the quicksand on which they were laid
 
 
Ganesh
17:35 / 27.09.04
(I think we already established *how good* you are at rhyming, didn't we, Haus?)

Well, this part of "we" (assuming "we" denotes those of us still reading this thread) actually reckons Haus is pretty damn good at verses that scan and rhyme. Whatever the man's other faults, that ain't particularly one of 'em. IMHO, etc.

This is like online 8 Mile...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:37 / 27.09.04
Well, I've just spent the last five minutes approving moderation requests from both Haus and Jade, on the lines of 'Hey, I'm not being insulting enough in what I said first time round, I want to add some more'.

Even by our standards this thread's a fucking embaressment.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:47 / 27.09.04
In a way, I'm sort of enjoying it. However, I think there's a principle at work here which it's worth bearing out.

Actions have consequences, and on Barbelith words are actions.

So, we have Rage, who has departed again it seems after a bit of pisstaking based on her rather repetitive cooler-than-thouishness. I have been the subject of lenghty hassle on the strength of what I thought was a fairly affectionate gag on the history of Barbelith (hey, Jade - photo thread! Go!), but have as a result had a chance to have loads of fun with limericks, and Gambit's choice of words is leading to debate over whether, for example, calling a woman hysterical is anything other than woman-baiting.

All this and the return of mound/t the face...
 
 
deja_vroom
17:47 / 27.09.04
Ganesh: the idiot savant remark. The idiot savant remark.

Lady of the Trampled Flowers, everybody - I'm stepping off. I'm stepping off. Here, Haus: rhyme to the hand.

NSFW image
 
 
charrellz
17:50 / 27.09.04
fridgemagnet - I wish I was good at ASCII art, just so I could make you a giant heart, cause that's the only thing that could express what I'm feeling, and it's all because of your post.

Rhymes and lime-like fruit
Surrounded by an ocean:
An ocean of URGHHH!
 
 
deja_vroom
17:52 / 27.09.04
(already asked to be made work safe)
 
 
Sir Real
17:53 / 27.09.04
O.K., two rather pointless questions, but this is evidently the thread for it:
1) Is the use of the word 'hysterical' invariably mysoginistic?

2) If I were to say 'Ah, you're all a bunch of fatties' would I be insulting the females more than the males?

The second question is in responce to:Yes clearly that's why it's okay to call a normal sized girl fat (would you really aim that at a man? Would you assume that it would be an insult in quite the same way?

Apologies if I'm reading that wrong.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:55 / 27.09.04
Cackled Jade "Yes! I have the last word,
In the manner I've always preferred.
I don't know what it means;
It's not something I've seen.
But it's awfully rude, so I've heard.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
18:12 / 27.09.04
I'm giving up posting to this thread, because we could go on like this forever.

Of course we can't. This'll get old too.

Oh, wait. I missed a chance to comment on one of the posts earlier. I'll just put that right. And stick a couple of one-liners up for good measure.

Bah. That's half the threads in this place. This one was doomed from the start, so the fact that it's turned into something fun is one up for us. C'mon, fridge's post alone almost made reading this thread worthwhile, didn't it?

Jesus, people. I'm unemployed, what's your excuse?

I'm bored and high and it's all in good fun. At least I got a job...punk.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
18:15 / 27.09.04
1) Is the use of the word 'hysterical' invariably mysoginistic?

In the context of "hysterical suffragist"? Yeah, I think so. Hysterical was a word created to hammer home the point that women were not to be trusted with, say, the vote, or the ability to take part in political life. It references the way their "wandering wombs" make them unreliable...

If you call your friend hysterical because he is getting unnecessarily upset about a failing of local government... trickier. The implication is that he is behaving in a womanish way, that he is letting his emotions control him, as would a woman... it's a very difficult word to use without suggesting that somewhere along the line women are creatures of emotion and inutility. Especially with "suffragist", which does indeed sound like a term intended to exert control by creating a particular reaction - anger - just as calling Rage fat was intended to exert control by creating a particular reaction.

2) If I were to say 'Ah, you're all a bunch of fatties' would I be insulting the females more than the males?

I don't think that's quite the point; rather, Gaimbit would not have thought to use the idea of fatness as a term of abuse designed to make somebody efface themselves from the board, pictorially speaking. So, the process is:

1) Gaimbit decides that pictures of Rage should be removed from the board.

2) Gaimbit decides that the best way to do that is to make Rage want to remove them.

3) Gaimbit decides that the best way to make Rage remove them is to suggest that she looks fat in them, thus making her take them down.

That, I think Flybs and Anna are saying, is tapping into a powerful cultural current of controlling women, and making women efface themselves, by playing on their body image, which simply does not really exist as a process wrt men. So if you said "you are all fat" - well, actually, somebody *did* - could somebody link to reallivetigerthread, please? - it might have very different meanings to different people, and it would certainly be a rather more diffuse insult.

Is that any help? I may be misrepresenting people's opinions...
 
 
Ganesh
18:15 / 27.09.04
Ganesh: the idiot savant remark. The idiot savant remark.

Still a little confused by *the apparent sarcasm*. *The apparant sarcasm*.

But there y'go. The rhyming is, IMHO, one of the better things in this thread...
 
 
MJ-12
18:16 / 27.09.04
Did Haus and Jade used to go out or something? Because this level of animosity is something I don't see very often except post ugly breakup.
 
 
Ganesh
18:17 / 27.09.04
(Note to self: Refresh + mysql_error = double-posting.)
 
  

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